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Just being a smartáss.

Hope you folks pull out a miracle.

Actually,...it's a damn wonder that Matt Bevin ever got elected in the first place. Kentucky is a very conservative place. But it's got a cancer of people who don't understand that the democratic party no longer represents them.

Like I said,...they think it's 1935.

We have them here in Kommiefornia as well. We call them Valleycrats.

................I do not know what the laws in Kentucky are for an automatic recount request by either candidate. Half of 1%?

1.4 million plus votes cast and about 4,000 votes separate them.....I say automatic recount time for Bevin.

Out of 120 total counties in KY, 24 are responsible for Bashear getting elected. The big 3 are Jefferson, Fayette and Kenton counties.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...-kentucky-governor-general-election.html


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I have to say it's nice to see you guys gnashing your teeth. The message is clear, Trump going to Kentucky yesterday didn't help, probably hurt Bevin. Aligning yourself with Trump will hurt you, because he's a despicable creature. Moscow Mitch isn't enjoying tonight, I hope they send him packing, too. Looks like good things happened in Virginia, too. Read em and weep, aholes.

You say, "gnashing your teeth" because you're speaking from years of experience yourself ?

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Paddler's an idiot as usual. The fact is Bevin was a very unpopular governor. Most unpopular in the US. He had a 32% approval rating in KY a couple of months ago.

Trump likely kept things closer for him than they should have been, but this was about Bevin, not DJT, or the GOP. It's a huge reason why every other GOP KY candidate Trump stumped for did very well, including the Black AG, he's a rising star.

Paddler's still butthurt from his '16 paddling, he'll probably off himself in a year with what's coming.

Bevin inherited a mess to begin with, as Kentucky's finances were in a mess, and in many ways still are. This is a great place to live, and I wouldn't want to live anywhere else, but facts are facts, and there has been a system in place here for many generations that favors the Democrats..........a little thing called state jobs. Since the Democrats often control the local politics, it stands to reason that most of the jobs are filled by Democrats.........teachers, highway department, and county workers. Bevin tried to fix their pension problems, something that sorely needed fixing, and he was very adamant about the way he went about doing it, and made a lot of political enemies as result.

Politically wise, this is a weird place. It has been a Democrat stronghold since the War Between the States, but in more recent years, as the Democrats went to the left, the GOP has gained a lot of power. They control both the House and the Senate, and won all the state offices last night except for governor, which shows how unpopular Bevin was even in his own party. This election was not Democrat versus Republican, but a vote of approval on Bevin.

I think he overplayed the abortion thing too. He is strongly pro-life, as most Kentuckians are, but for the most part, people just don't give a chit about abortion as a political issue, as there are more important things. Also, Bevin is a prime example of why it is very hard for a businessman to succeed in the political world. Politics and business are two different things, and unless a businessman knows how to also play the political game, they usually end up in trouble......just like Bevin did. Although he tried very hard to do a good job, and I believe he did, he used the wrong approach, and it cost him his job, and Kentucky a chance to move forward.

Good synopsis of this state. I think that the businessman turned politician angle was his issue. He was too slow on the learning curve. I don’t think that this was a measure of Trump. I am concerned that Trump and Bevin are both bold speakers as politicians go. I personally like that but a lot of our countrymen don’t. I wonder if that boldness and people’s dislike for it will make the same difference in the presidential race.

Well this is a huge problem for us in the upcoming 2020 races. We can't afford to give up any races at all. Especially house and SENATE races. I truly hate to see Bevin loose because he was a good man and right on the issues. Now we will have a leftist governor in there pissing in that tent. it's a shame.

The problem we have with all state and local governments is they all have grown out of control and their employees are going to vote their pocketbooks. Slowly they have been populated by liberals and the positions of power and control especially for elections are in control of liberals. That's a game changer in a close election. They've proven it time and again.

There's a reason why Obama was high on organizing! Think ACORN!!!

From my other post on the subject: The sooner we all come to the realization the republic is lost, the sooner you can make plans to hunker down and hopefully live the rest of your days without the government taking all your assets to pay off the great unwashed, which constitutes AT LEAST 50% of the population. Virginia is now gone as well, as is California and Arizona, all three were pretty much R states. Texas is next...

Look at this map, Looks like a microcosm of the entire US , yet the R still lost. Why? because between the immigrant invasion and democrats, they are outfucking us. period,
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A few things we need to know.

1.) How much money did the DNC pour into this election?
2.) How much out of state money was used
3.) What issues did the DNC try to go negative on Bevin on and how hard did they push it?

The Dems are desparate for ANY victory, and have shown that they will pour massive money into some elections just get a victory. We saw the Dems spend $30 million dollars losing a special election in a $3 million race. They doubled down and won the District a year later, but spent $50 million dollars to do it whereas the GOP spent $10 million. The Dems "bought" many of those abandoned GOP seats they took in the House. More money in the race gave them more ad time, social media time, and more face time in town hall events. When there is no name recognition, they built it fast.

Did they pull an Alinisky on Bevin? Isolate, polarize, ridicule, then offer their guy as clean no name?

Trump on that state by 30 points. That alone should have sufficed, unless of course what you say above happened, which validates my low opinion of the average voter...

I know nothing about KY politics so I'm just asking...what happened in the R primary? If Bevan's so unpopular, how did he get on the ballot again? Do the R's not have anyone more suitable to run against him?

Most likely a case of no one wanting to challenge the incumbent. He won the GOP primary 4 years ago by a even slimmer margin than he lost by last night, and won the governors race against a rather weak Democrat. Bevin is not a native Kentuckian, and to be truthful about it, has never really fit in.

Ah, go have an Irish coffee and chill. Put me in charge and in 10 years I could get half the Mescans and 1/3 of the Brothers and Sistas voting GOP. Just need some spokes people with charisma to court them. Tell the Mescans that the Dems are cut from the same cloth as the corrupt politicians they fled from. Point out who is for abortion, more taxes, class envy, inconsistent application of the law and contrast that to the GOP that offers the opportunity for upward social and economic mobility. Remind them who hates religion. You got to preach it to them loud and often. Same with the Brothers. Many are ready to bolt the Dems. Trump has brought them record low unemployment and certainly has done little block economic advancement for that group. How about Asians including the Indians? The Chinese and Koreans fled that communist stuff, so easy to get them voting GOP. Dot heads are all about self reliance.

Only block I couldn't convert is the college educated white urban dwellers. They are too busy dining out at some celebrity chefs restaurant and planing their mountain bike trip to Moab to listen. Then they have their sister's destination wedding in Ho Chi Minh City or Tuscany to plan for.

I like your post. Lots of logic here. Also, here is something else to consider. If you watched the Lexington Rally you saw Trump fire a Concord shot at the DS.

https://mobile.twitter.com/3Days3Nights/status/1191911778424369152

Too many years of spend and commit to more spending fiscal irresponsibility and abuses by almost total Democrat state government control resulted in this:

https://www.statedatalab.org/library/doclib/2009-FSOS.pdf

Like President Trump, Matt Bevin tried and was starting to make some headway but, also like Trump, the 'gimme-more' Democrats couldn't stand it.

https://www.truthinaccounting.org/library/doclib/KY-2017-2pager.pdf

BUT, .. it also sounds like the proverbial, "Fat Lady", may not have sung the last note quite yet:

Senate president: Kentucky governor's race could be decided by state legislature

Where will Kentucky get 54 billion dollars?

That's going to be the task for the new governor.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...-pensions-fuel-kentuckys-54-billion-debt

FRANKFORT, KY. (AP) — Kentucky is more than $54 billion in debt, with estimated unfunded retirement benefits accounting for more than 80 percent of that figure.

Republican Auditor Mike Harmon issued a report on Tuesday detailing the various sources of Kentucky's debt. Pension liabilities were the largest, accounting for $43.3 billion. That's the total number of pension and health insurance benefits Kentucky owes over the next three decades but does not have the money to pay.

About $9 billion is debt supported by state tax dollars, including $3.85 billion for construction projects and $1.81 billion for public universities. About $2.25 billion in debt is supported by bonds, including money for grants, scholarships and student loans.

Harmon says the total debt is more than $12,000 for every person in Kentucky.