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You guys realize that the refrigeration cycle was invented before the Boomers right?
I didn't even see air-con 'til I was in my teens.
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Neither did I and I am a Millennial.
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growing up we were allowed to use A/C in August. We had an old Fedders 220V Window Unit that must have weighed 200 pounds we'd man handle in the window.
Until then we had a huge fan mounted to the window that created such a wind current in the house you had trouble shutting doors. Side benefit was it was so loud you couldn't hear anything at night. Looking back I think that fan was better than a window unit A/C anyways.
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You guys realize that the refrigeration cycle was invented before the Boomers right?
I didn't even see air-con 'til I was in my teens. in the 60's i was attending A.S.U. in the valley of the sun, i.e. phoenix valley. I had a vw with no air, and in the summer 115degree temps. use to leave at night or early morning to get back up in the mountains. i don't remember a/c until late 70's, it was a swamp cooler. Which i still use in my house until the monsoon season, where the humidity forces a/c. At my house in central arizona, we never had a/c, at best a swamp cooler in the window.
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You guys realize that the refrigeration cycle was invented before the Boomers right?
I didn't even see air-con 'til I was in my teens. in the 60's i was attending A.S.U. in the valley of the sun, i.e. phoenix valley. I had a vw with no air, and in the summer 115degree temps. use to leave at night or early morning to get back up in the mountains. i don't remember a/c until late 70's, it was a swamp cooler. Which i still use in my house until the monsoon season, where the humidity forces a/c. At my house in central arizona, we never had a/c, at best a swamp cooler in the window. Yes, basically a metal box on wheels with an internal fan and a hole to put ice in...I remember them well.
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I am thankful that I didn't grow up in my parents time, mine was a breeze compared to theirs.
Life is definitely easier now.
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When I got to see black and white in the mid seventies I and everyone else in town were mesmerised.
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I am thankful that I didn't grow up in my parents time, mine was a breeze compared to theirs.
Life is definitely easier now.
That I agree with. What my parents had to deal with and what my parents had to go thru is real hardship - and they weren't unique But that is really the argument that these kids have today with Boomer and Gen-X. The idea that every generation has it easier than the one before them - a strong argument can be made that isn't true for them.
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I am thankful that I didn't grow up in my parents time, mine was a breeze compared to theirs.
Life is definitely easier now.
That I agree with. What my parents had to deal with and what my parents had to go thru is real hardship - and they weren't unique But that is really the argument that these kids have today with Boomer and Gen-X. The idea that every generation has it easier than the one before them - a strong argument can be made that isn't true for them. A strong argument can be made that it's different. Easier for previous generations...not so much. For us, keeping a vehicle running was a major part of life's challenges. For millennials, all that involves is basically not being stupid. Different times....different challenges. The mental mistake a lot of young folks make is gaging their success on that of their parents. The notion that economies and living conditions should always improve is a departure from reality. The assumption that today's difficulties are the new and permanent normal is also a mistake. The late seventies and the eighties pretty much sucked for the idea of upward mobility for the average guy. But that didn't last. This current trend to blame a past generation for today's problems might have some legitimacy, but we all inherited some problem or other. Today's is lifestyle, but yesterday's were more life-threatening. Given a choice, I'd take today's package deal (minus the socialist and statist trends) over the seventies. If millennials think it's all so bad, they should put their money where their mouth is and fix it. I'd even go along with the ride - so long as it adheres to the proven methods of forward progress.....ie personal liberty and managed capitalism.
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Money where their mouth is??
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We need to bring back the vent window in cars I'll stand up and give an AMEN to that! Wish they'd have never went away. In a thread full of retard comments, a nugget of truth shines forth. Worthy of it's own thread honestly.
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Yeah, what better way to blow all your cigarette ashes on your passenger?
Sometimes even a hot cherry to the crotch.......
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I am thankful that I didn't grow up in my parents time, mine was a breeze compared to theirs.
Life is definitely easier now.
That I agree with. What my parents had to deal with and what my parents had to go thru is real hardship - and they weren't unique But that is really the argument that these kids have today with Boomer and Gen-X. The idea that every generation has it easier than the one before them - a strong argument can be made that isn't true for them. A strong argument can be made that it's different. Easier for previous generations...not so much. For us, keeping a vehicle running was a major part of life's challenges. For millennials, all that involves is basically not being stupid. Different times....different challenges. The mental mistake a lot of young folks make is gaging their success on that of their parents. The notion that economies and living conditions should always improve is a departure from reality. The assumption that today's difficulties are the new and permanent normal is also a mistake. The late seventies and the eighties pretty much sucked for the idea of upward mobility for the average guy. But that didn't last. This current trend to blame a past generation for today's problems might have some legitimacy, but we all inherited some problem or other. Today's is lifestyle, but yesterday's were more life-threatening. Given a choice, I'd take today's package deal (minus the socialist and statist trends) over the seventies. If millennials think it's all so bad, they should put their money where their mouth is and fix it. I'd even go along with the ride - so long as it adheres to the proven methods of forward progress.....ie personal liberty and managed capitalism. You make a good point. But, I'll respond if I may. Yup, vehicles, just in the last 30 years is a huge difference. That makes life easier for sure, but they ain't cheap either. The biggest difference I see is societal. I can't even imagine trying to date in this climate. I don't mean go out and dip my wick, I mean go out as a young man date, and look for a wife. Holy schidt.
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Yeah, what better way to blow all your cigarette ashes on your passenger?
Sometimes even a hot cherry to the crotch....... Keep it PG. Sheesh!
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We need to bring back the vent window in cars I'll stand up and give an AMEN to that! Wish they'd have never went away. In a thread full of retard comments, a nugget of truth shines forth. Worthy of it's own thread honestly. I brought it up because I have one in mine and everyone who rides in it ( especially my kids who never knew they existed before) loves it My son also can't get over that the same car does not have electric windows - he's lost on the idea of crank windows
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I am thankful that I didn't grow up in my parents time, mine was a breeze compared to theirs.
Life is definitely easier now.
That I agree with. What my parents had to deal with and what my parents had to go thru is real hardship - and they weren't unique But that is really the argument that these kids have today with Boomer and Gen-X. The idea that every generation has it easier than the one before them - a strong argument can be made that isn't true for them. A strong argument can be made that it's different. Easier for previous generations...not so much. For us, keeping a vehicle running was a major part of life's challenges. For millennials, all that involves is basically not being stupid. Different times....different challenges. The mental mistake a lot of young folks make is gaging their success on that of their parents. The notion that economies and living conditions should always improve is a departure from reality. The assumption that today's difficulties are the new and permanent normal is also a mistake. The late seventies and the eighties pretty much sucked for the idea of upward mobility for the average guy. But that didn't last. This current trend to blame a past generation for today's problems might have some legitimacy, but we all inherited some problem or other. Today's is lifestyle, but yesterday's were more life-threatening. Given a choice, I'd take today's package deal (minus the socialist and statist trends) over the seventies. If millennials think it's all so bad, they should put their money where their mouth is and fix it. I'd even go along with the ride - so long as it adheres to the proven methods of forward progress.....ie personal liberty and managed capitalism. you look at some big hitting issues for them - health care costs which affects all of us of course, housing and education its not they don't have options, they just don't have as many options. Yea, they can join the military or go to a trade school, they can live in rural America in a 3/2 ranch if they are earning a professionals salary - but do they have the same options to get head at the same age we did? I don't think its as clear cut as it may seem to some.
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I am thankful that I didn't grow up in my parents time, mine was a breeze compared to theirs.
Life is definitely easier now.
That I agree with. What my parents had to deal with and what my parents had to go thru is real hardship - and they weren't unique But that is really the argument that these kids have today with Boomer and Gen-X. The idea that every generation has it easier than the one before them - a strong argument can be made that isn't true for them. A strong argument can be made that it's different. Easier for previous generations...not so much. For us, keeping a vehicle running was a major part of life's challenges. For millennials, all that involves is basically not being stupid. Different times....different challenges. The mental mistake a lot of young folks make is gaging their success on that of their parents. The notion that economies and living conditions should always improve is a departure from reality. The assumption that today's difficulties are the new and permanent normal is also a mistake. The late seventies and the eighties pretty much sucked for the idea of upward mobility for the average guy. But that didn't last. This current trend to blame a past generation for today's problems might have some legitimacy, but we all inherited some problem or other. Today's is lifestyle, but yesterday's were more life-threatening. Given a choice, I'd take today's package deal (minus the socialist and statist trends) over the seventies. If millennials think it's all so bad, they should put their money where their mouth is and fix it. I'd even go along with the ride - so long as it adheres to the proven methods of forward progress.....ie personal liberty and managed capitalism. you look at some big hitting issues for them - health care costs which affects all of us of course, housing and education its not they don't have options, they just don't have as many options. Yea, they can join the military or go to a trade school, they can live in rural America in a 3/2 ranch if they are earning a professionals salary - but do they have the same options to get head at the same age we did? I don't think its as clear cut as it may seem to some. What I recall about health care as a boomer, is that unless we were bleeding or broken, we had none. No wonder it was cheaper. As for options.....you have to be joking. There are more options now than ever before, and it's easier to find them - all due to technology. And education.....we are no longer bound to the old obsolete system. But yeah....it requires some personal initiative and willingness to step out of the comfort zone.
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We need to bring back the vent window in cars I'll stand up and give an AMEN to that! Wish they'd have never went away. In a thread full of retard comments, a nugget of truth shines forth. Worthy of it's own thread honestly. I brought it up because I have one in mine and everyone who rides in it ( especially my kids who never knew they existed before) loves it My son also can't get over that the same car does not have electric windows - he's lost on the idea of crank windows I'll add the lower vents you can open/close that brought in outside air. I wonder if these are analogous to the way buildings were built before climate control? Built with windows and such so that it was able to breathe and circulate air naturally. Now with the ubiguitessness of central air, you can build any damn box and rely on the canned air. Open the wings and vents on a truck that had them and it was damn nice. open a window on a new one and the air just doesn't circulate right.
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I am thankful that I didn't grow up in my parents time, mine was a breeze compared to theirs.
Life is definitely easier now.
That I agree with. What my parents had to deal with and what my parents had to go thru is real hardship - and they weren't unique But that is really the argument that these kids have today with Boomer and Gen-X. The idea that every generation has it easier than the one before them - a strong argument can be made that isn't true for them. A strong argument can be made that it's different. Easier for previous generations...not so much. For us, keeping a vehicle running was a major part of life's challenges. For millennials, all that involves is basically not being stupid. Different times....different challenges. The mental mistake a lot of young folks make is gaging their success on that of their parents. The notion that economies and living conditions should always improve is a departure from reality. The assumption that today's difficulties are the new and permanent normal is also a mistake. The late seventies and the eighties pretty much sucked for the idea of upward mobility for the average guy. But that didn't last. This current trend to blame a past generation for today's problems might have some legitimacy, but we all inherited some problem or other. Today's is lifestyle, but yesterday's were more life-threatening. Given a choice, I'd take today's package deal (minus the socialist and statist trends) over the seventies. If millennials think it's all so bad, they should put their money where their mouth is and fix it. I'd even go along with the ride - so long as it adheres to the proven methods of forward progress.....ie personal liberty and managed capitalism. you look at some big hitting issues for them - health care costs which affects all of us of course, housing and education its not they don't have options, they just don't have as many options. Yea, they can join the military or go to a trade school, they can live in rural America in a 3/2 ranch if they are earning a professionals salary - but do they have the same options to get head at the same age we did? I don't think its as clear cut as it may seem to some. What I recall about health care as a boomer, is that unless we were bleeding or broken, we had none. No wonder it was cheaper. As for options.....you have to be joking. There are more options now than ever before, and it's easier to find them - all due to technology. And education.....we are no longer bound to the old obsolete system. But yeah....it requires some personal initiative and willingness to step out of the comfort zone. You think it's easier to make a living wage and provide for a family of 4 as a sole wage earner now than it was in decades past? I'll respectfully disagree.
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