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Re: Nearly Perfect Elk Rifle....Caliber [Re: Dirtfarmer] #14269246 11/10/19
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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
That looks good. How about some details.
I’ve read that the 30-06 AI doesn’t add enough to justify the exercise. How about the std 338-06 vs the AI version. Is it worth the effort?.
Also what bullets and loads do you like?

Again, I stole the pic off the innerweb, just for effect, as I didn't have a pic of mine.

Mine's a hideous stainless/plastic stock version.......

700 S/S 700, 21" Rock #3, McMillan Classic in 50/50 orange/black, with a 3.5-10 CDS Leupold in Talleys on top, weighing in at 7-12 empty.

Whether it's worth it or not, is up to the individual, there is a small gain to be had. I did it because it looks cool and the smith had the reamer, so why not.

I'm at 2800 with either 200 BT's or 210 partitions. I've only killed one deer with it, but it folded on the spot like a cheap lawn chair.

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Re: Nearly Perfect Elk Rifle....Caliber [Re: nksmfamjp] #14269741 11/10/19
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For me, the “perfect” elk rifle was my old Stainless M70 in 338 WM w/22” bbl. loaded with 210 Partitions at 2,925 FPS.

Problem is, “perfect” on paper is different from reality. It put stuff down in short order, but not enough differently than dozens of other softer recoiling cartridges that can be chambered in lighter, easier to carry rifles.

I like the 6.5CM/270/7mm-08/308 approach these days. Anymore, to me, a “big” gun is the 30-06 or 300 WSM.

Were I you, I’d use the 6.5x55 Norge with a 130 or 140 gr. bullet and not think twice.


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Re: Nearly Perfect Elk Rifle....Caliber [Re: nksmfamjp] #14269781 11/10/19
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Light , reliable and handy are good elk rifle qualities... when you hunt away from the road.... if you shoot them off the haystack, hell anything will work


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Re: Nearly Perfect Elk Rifle....Caliber [Re: nksmfamjp] #14269806 11/10/19
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I'm really "keen" on hayfield cow elk with about 1 foot of snow on the ground, right at freezing temps around 9AM and me the only hunter on the place, with a P/U truck/ranch hands waiting to load it! Wow! smile

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I would be tempted to work up a load with the 120 TTSX and use the Swede.

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Re: Nearly Perfect Elk Rifle....Caliber [Re: Jim_Knight] #14269812 11/10/19
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Originally Posted by Jim_Knight
I'm really "keen" on hayfield cow elk with about 1 foot of snow on the ground, right at freezing temps around 9AM and me the only hunter on the place, with a P/U truck/ranch hands waiting to load it! Wow! smile


I hate you! use a tractor to load more better... smile


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Re: Nearly Perfect Elk Rifle....Caliber [Re: nksmfamjp] #14270404 11/10/19
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Expend your time, energy, and resources looking for the perfect elk.



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Re: Nearly Perfect Elk Rifle....Caliber [Re: nksmfamjp] #14270595 11/10/19
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So, let’s talk caliber....right now, I’m thinking 6.5X55, 6.5-06, 270 Win, 280 AI, or 30’06 AI.


None of the above. cool

A standard 30-06 will serve you well. If you want to go looney, 338-06.

I own and really like the 338-06, but I also have a 300 H&H along with a couple 30-06's.


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You wouldn't go wrong with a 30-06.

Re: Nearly Perfect Elk Rifle....Caliber [Re: nksmfamjp] #14270799 11/10/19
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Shot my 338-06 this afternoon. It really likes the 160 TTSX over Varget, sub inch. I didn't get a chance to clock it, but IIRC it's 3K fps.or better.

B.C is .342, not the greatest, but the trajectory isn't bad out to 250 with a 150 yd zero, start dropping after that. It's not as flat shooting as the 338 WM, but doesn't kick as bad. In fact, it's a reallly pleasant round to shoot off the bench.

I have 210 NPT and a few others yet to try. Will report.

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Re: Nearly Perfect Elk Rifle....Caliber [Re: nksmfamjp] #14270818 11/10/19
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Nothing wrong with a 30-06 or its ballistics performance identical twin, the 7mm /rem mag. The little brother 280 Rem is not much behind.

My choice as the perfect elk rifle has served me well, a Ruger #1 in 7mm STW with 160s at 3200 fps MV.


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Waiting on the 7mm PRC

Re: Nearly Perfect Elk Rifle....Caliber [Re: Sheister] #14270852 11/10/19
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Originally Posted by Sheister
With those choices, why bother? None of those are going to do anything the 6.5 x 55 won't do just fine at the ranges you are discussing. If you're going to take a step up, make it a worthwhile one- 300 Win Mag or a 338 WM (my favorite)... excellent ballistics far beyond your stated ranges and enough energy to be sure it won't bounce off anything on any continent on earth. Excellent bullets available also- in factory fodder and for handloading.

Bob


Thats the way i roll. You cant get much better than a 338 for elk killing at longer range. Short range, it just plows them down too. With the chamberings hes asking about, you'll need a perfect broadside shot opportunity at longer ranges. And as we know, elk dont always want to cooperate in that regard.


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.

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Re: Nearly Perfect Elk Rifle....Caliber [Re: Judman] #14270864 11/10/19
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Originally Posted by Judman
Anything will work, I’ve done it. 338 win mag was made for elk...

Amen. I thought everyone knew that^^^^


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.

Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
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Re: Nearly Perfect Elk Rifle....Caliber [Re: nksmfamjp] #14271286 11/11/19
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For me it is either the .340 Wby or .338 RUM for the "Nearly Perfect Elk Rifle....Caliber."


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Re: Nearly Perfect Elk Rifle....Caliber [Re: elkhunternm] #14271444 11/11/19
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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
For me it is either the .340 Wby or .338 RUM for the "Nearly Perfect Elk Rifle....Caliber."


Says the guy who shoots little wabbits with a 460 Wby........ smile


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Re: Nearly Perfect Elk Rifle....Caliber [Re: nksmfamjp] #14271689 11/11/19
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Harrumph !! As long as we are throwing out a plethora of cartridges, I'll toss in the ones I have used with success. 35 Whelen and 7x57 Mauser.


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Re: Nearly Perfect Elk Rifle....Caliber [Re: aalf] #14271860 11/11/19
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Originally Posted by aalf
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You can't even keep em in the target and we're supposed to take yer advice?? Raff Out Roud. And besides, elk don't have little orange thingys on their hide to shoot at!

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Re: Nearly Perfect Elk Rifle....Caliber [Re: nksmfamjp] #14271966 11/11/19
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aalf is a milk jug killer extraordinaire...... do not underestimate him..... wink


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