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With respectful deference to but not considering the venerable M700/M70/M77...
the Tikka T3X gets a lot of love on the Campfire; love for the Kimber Montana is bi-polar love/hate yet the rifle continues to draw the 'Fire like moths to flame; love for the Sauer 100 XT seems to be subdued but growing a tiny bit; love for the Steyr Pro-Hunter is there but very very niche and not growing; and I don't hear much love at all for the X-Bolt...
thing is, all five rifles are reputed to be very accurate, easily sub MOA if the shooter does his part; yet there just ain't much love for some very accurate platforms...
why is that? ergos? trigger? mag confines? can't field strip the bolt? press-fit barrel, Global Warming? Disaster first date? You can get the wall-flowers dressed in something other than 277 so it can't be "oh, that rifle has the 270-gay"...
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For me. Out of box accuracy and no work necessary on anything is the deal breaker. The thought of buying Remington 700 and then have to do all the BS to make it work the way it should is an awful concept. I also think the sauer 100 feels better and might be better than my tikka but the after market support isn’t there. So tikka for the win.
All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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For me. Out of box accuracy and no work necessary on anything is the deal breaker. The thought of buying Remington 700 and then have to do all the BS to make it work the way it should is an awful concept. I also think the sauer 100 feels better and might be better than my tikka but the after market support isn’t there. So tikka for the win.
I agree... I have three ABolts that all shoot 1/2-34" out of the box. LOVE the tang safety
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When 100’s of posts have pics of itty biddy Tikka groups and load development means “pick one”, it’s hard to ignore.
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"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die, I want to go where they went" Will Rogers
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I guess its no wonder the Finns kicked a lot of Russian @$$ in the big one... but still...
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When 100’s of posts have pics of itty biddy Tikka groups and load development means “pick one”, it’s hard to ignore.
Except in paradise.
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I hear there’s a few up that way too. But you know, they suck and all that.
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If Browning had a logo that wasn’t above the ass crack of people that didn’t even own a Browning, it would help its cause for me.
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Never owned a Tikka, but my favorite rifle besides Kleinguenthers is the Sako L-61. I have owned a couple dozen. All have shot very well. I just bought another, am curious to see how well it shoots.
I bet Tikkas are very accurate.
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If Browning had a logo that wasn’t above the ass crack of people that didn’t even own a Browning, it would help its cause for me. Holy schit that’s funny!!
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Ruger 77 MkII for the win. Use it to hammer in the fencepost, then take the picture on top, then go shoot your deer.
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For me. Out of box accuracy and no work necessary on anything is the deal breaker. The thought of buying Remington 700 and then have to do all the BS to make it work the way it should is an awful concept. I also think the sauer 100 feels better and might be better than my tikka but the after market support isn’t there. So tikka for the win.
I agree... I have three ABolts that all shoot 1/2-34" out of the box. LOVE the tang safety At, "1/2-34", thats a pretty wide margin. I think most rifles fall into that category. Im pretty sure i could hip shoot most of my rifles and put them into 34" or less. Its about time some one posted an honest representation of how their rifles really shoot. Not a whole hell of a lot of entries in the moa all day long challenge here. Likely the main reason. Most guys think they shoot better than they actually can, and of course many cant prove it, when the time comes. Hint..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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When 100’s of posts have pics of itty biddy Tikka groups and load development means “pick one”, it’s hard to ignore.
We will see.... It will probably shoot as good as it looks though...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Ruger 77 MkII for the win. Use it to hammer in the fencepost, then take the picture on top, then go shoot your deer.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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With respectful deference to but not considering the venerable M700/M70/M77...
the Tikka T3X gets a lot of love on the Campfire; love for the Kimber Montana is bi-polar love/hate yet the rifle continues to draw the 'Fire like moths to flame; love for the Sauer 100 XT seems to be subdued but growing a tiny bit; love for the Steyr Pro-Hunter is there but very very niche and not growing; and I don't hear much love at all for the X-Bolt...
thing is, all five rifles are reputed to be very accurate, easily sub MOA if the shooter does his part; yet there just ain't much love for some very accurate platforms...
why is that? ergos? trigger? mag confines? can't field strip the bolt? press-fit barrel, Global Warming? Disaster first date? You can get the wall-flowers dressed in something other than 277 so it can't be "oh, that rifle has the 270-gay"... Simple enough...some people like things, others like doing things, sometimes these mix but mostly not. Then there are the reprobates like myself that tend to focus only on the things that we are currently fixating upon.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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My problem is that I like them ALL ! RJ
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For me. Out of box accuracy and no work necessary on anything is the deal breaker. The thought of buying Remington 700 and then have to do all the BS to make it work the way it should is an awful concept. I also think the sauer 100 feels better and might be better than my tikka but the after market support isn’t there. So tikka for the win.
I've never had any problems getting a Remington 700 or 7 to shoot good out of the box. Have changed out some triggers, but that was strictly a personal preference.
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For me. Out of box accuracy and no work necessary on anything is the deal breaker. The thought of buying Remington 700 and then have to do all the BS to make it work the way it should is an awful concept. I also think the sauer 100 feels better and might be better than my tikka but the after market support isn’t there. So tikka for the win.
I've never had any problems getting a Remington 700 or 7 to shoot good out of the box. Have changed out some triggers, but that was strictly a personal preference. I have 8 or 9 700’s, they all shoot great too
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For me. Out of box accuracy and no work necessary on anything is the deal breaker. The thought of buying Remington 700 and then have to do all the BS to make it work the way it should is an awful concept. I also think the sauer 100 feels better and might be better than my tikka but the after market support isn’t there. So tikka for the win.
I agree... I have three ABolts that all shoot 1/2-34" out of the box. LOVE the tang safety At, "1/2-34", thats a pretty wide margin. I think most rifles fall into that category. Im pretty sure i could hip shoot most of my rifles and put them into 34" or less. Its about time some one posted an honest representation of how their rifles really shoot. Not a whole hell of a lot of entries in the moa all day long challenge here. Likely the main reason. Most guys think they shoot better than they actually can, and of course many cant prove it, when the time comes. Hint.. Here we go you and that damn challenge lol.. hot butter do you wake up every morning thinking Moa challenge? Lol..
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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