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DNA testing is revealing a lot of hidden secrets.

My daughter was contacted by parties thru "23 and Me", asking about family connections. We're finding out my first cousin was a sperm donor in Houston when he was in school there. He has 6 or 7 progeny. He died of colon cancer a few years ago, never married, had no family. Until now...

It's been interesting. We were able to give them photos of this guy (their biological Dad), his Mom (my Dad's older sister) and his Dad, a Canadian. He was an only child. They seem most appreciative. We've not met any of them, although my daughter is Facebook friends with several.

DF

First cousin marriages are illegal in West Virginia. They are, however, legal in Virginia.😲

Every year an estimated 8 million children--6
percent of total births worldwide--are born with a serious birth defect of genetic or partially genetic origin. Additionally, hundreds of thousands more are born with serious birth defects of post- conception origin due to maternal exposure to environmental agents. At least 3.3 million children less than 5 years of age die annually because of serious birth defects and the majority of those who survive may be mentally and physically disabled for life.
This report from the March of Dimes is the first to provide a global estimate of serious birth defects of genetic or partly genetic origin. It details the birth prevalence rates and the numbers of affected births in 193 countries.


According to a global report on birth defects
which was conducted in 2006, 21 out of 22 countries most affected by birth defects per 1000 live births are Muslim majority countries and the following
countries are the ones most affect by birth
defects per 1000 live births:
1. Sudan 82.0/1000
2. Saudi Arabia 81.3/1000
3. Benin 77.9/1009
4. Burkina Faso 77.0/1000
5. Palestinian territories 76.6/1000
6. United Arab Emirates 75.9/1000
7. Tajikistan 75.2/1000
8. Iraq 74.9/1000
9. Kuwait 74.9/1000
10. Afghanistan 74.8/1000
11. Oman 74.8/1000
12. Syria 74.3/1000
13. Pakistan 73.5/1000
14. Nigeria 73.5/1000
15. Kyrgyzstan 73.4/1000
16. Qatar 73.4/1000
17. Bahrain 73.3/1000
18. Jordan 73.1/1000
19. Libya 73.0/1000
20. Tunisia 72.7/1000
21. Morocco 72.3/1000
22. Yemen 72.1/1000



Inbreeding which involves marriage between cousins is an islamically valid and approved practice.
Inbreeding is a major cause of birth defects in children so its very likely that the whole cousin marriage thing has a huge role to play in recorded high rates of birth defects in Muslim countries.

With all the "fooling around" from puberty on the human race has always been prone to, it stands to reason some and maybe even many may have close blood relatives - full/half-siblings, cousins, aunts/uncles, even direct offspring - unbeknownst to them.

For many years adoption records were regularly sealed.

Right here.

Bite me😜

Seriously, without really knowing who really did what to who, all the anecdotal "evidence" pro and con about the possible problems with cousin bliss doesn't hold much water. Gotta factor in genetic tolerance stack too.

A lady I know was walking past her neighbor's house in a WV holler, and heard a comotion inside. Peeked in a window and brother was knocking the bottom out of his sister. Close family, I guess. That kind of stuff plays Hell with the genetic equation if not known, assuming the union bears fruit, or maybe fruitcake.

Exactamundo!

And just think, if folks had taken this advice 150 years ago there likely would be no "Anthropologically caused climate change" debate.


Of course, some retirement portfolios might be a bit slimmer too.


But think of how nice it would be to drive in large Metro areas compared to today.

Geno

Those who marry family generally aren't those who consider climate change, social problems, or anything else that requires a brain. They marry just to have a wife and cousin Betty's available.

Perzactly!

Albert Einstein married his double first cousin so that theory might not hold water.

Looking around in this world today it would have been nice if a lot mothers and fathers would have heeded that advice.........

I believe the saying is "Closer kin, deeper in".

This happens in stock all the time. Breeding two genetically close individuals generally goes one of two routes or a combo of the two:

1. The offspring has accentuated the shared strong points of the related individuals' genetics and has a good outcome......we call this line-breeding.
2. The offspring has accentuated the shared weak points of the related individuals' genetics and has a poor outcome......we call this inbreeding.

If the genetics of both sides of the breeding have no strong points to begin with it doesn't take a geneticist to figure out what the results going to be.

We need to issue breeding permits.

And it doesn't increase your welfare when you breed more of the same...

Prerequisite for a packer fan...

Don’t know anyone that married a cousin, but I heard of a guy that boinked his cousin.

Hey! If you had seen a picture of her..........Haha!

Art?



Why does that not surprise me...

It is true, crossing close relatives will increase the likelihood of undesirable recessive genes being expressed. But those gene have to be there in the first place before they can surface.

As an example, in a family I have known all my life, the Mom has a wandering right eye.
But none of her kids exhibited this trait. Then they let the Mom's 13 year old nephew come up to the ranch for the summer. The nephew and a 13 year old daughter did what kids naturally do when they get the chance to be alone behind the haystack.

And a lovely baby boy resulted, and yes he had Gramma's wandering right eye. Even though neither of the cousins expressed the trait, they did carry the recessive gene inherited from their respective mothers, and the baby was the 1 in 4 chance of inheriting the recessive from both parents.

I am kind of with Heinlein on this one. There is nothing really morally wrong with such a union. But it is immoral to play genetic roulette with any children born of the union.

And today, there is no need. Any decent geneticist can tell couples if it is safe to procreate. And a host of options are available for couples to have children if it is unsafe for them to mate.

You know who. Might even be fishin now.

What of it ??????

See video of musical group Madness singing “Shame and Scandal in the Family!” Freaking hilarious!