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When I arrived in Texas about 35 years ago, two things struck me as different. One was most of the people I became friends with down here (Texas Rednecks for the most part) kept handguns in their trucks. The other was most of ‘em HAD trucks.
Not often 4wd drive tho. IIRC a general consensus went you didn’t need it that often and if you did a winch could get you out.
I would guess since then 4wd has become less intrusive and more user-friendly, and on the base 2020 Tacoma the 4wd option only adds about $1,700 to the list price of the truck work almost the same fuel economy (4wd has a significantly better resale value too).
Still, around here, most pickups are still 2wd, and most are Ford F 150s.
Thoughts?
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Two things demand 4WD: snow and mud.
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If the roads iced up down that way more often I suspect you'd see more 4WDs on the road. Plus, being an urban area, I'd guess maybe one in a hundred pickups you see on the road down there are driven off asphalt more than once a year. Not that there's anything wrong with using a pickup in an urban/suburban environment...they're just plain handy, last a long time, allow great visibility, and are really comfortable rides these days. I happen to own a 2wd F150 myself, and it's my daily driver. My old GMC 4x4 is my fun truck.
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The F150 will get you as good or better gas mileage and be much more roomy and capable. You can get a 36 gallon gas tank and a locking rear differential in the Ford also. The new Taco isn’t close to being the truck that earned the good reputation as indestructible go anywhere truck. 4wd is the greatest thing ever invented when you need it and the penalty for having it isn’t that much anymore. The 4wd is reliable and not the mileage killer it once was.
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I am in the North Carolina mountains. It snows pretty often up here. The 2WD pickup is the worst vehicle in the snow, no weight on the drive wheels. Up here 98 percent of pickups are 4WD. I have a 3/4 mile long, steep gravel driveway and I love my 4WD Nissan.
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My Texas born and bred white collar BIL has a 2wd pickup truck. His Texas born and bred rancher/builder BIL has a 4wd pickup truck.
One tows. The other doesn't.
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The ones without four wheel drive just resemble pickups. Ed k
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I can't remember when I have seen a 2 wd pickup
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They still sell 2wd trucks? Silly
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A lot more use for 4wd than just mud and snow, you've obviously never been on a slick boat ramp or sand.
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Two things demand 4WD: snow and mud. Yep. And the second one is slippery hills.
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A lot more use for 4wd than just mud and snow, you've obviously never been on a slick boat ramp or sand. +1. There's got to be a video of a boat pulling a truck in somewhere.
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4WD gets mouth-breather idiots in situations where it's difficult to steer and stop, but what do they care- - - - -they're moving! Tow truck drivers love guys with all-wheel drive- - - -they laugh all the way to the bank! Jerry
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4WD gets mouth-breather idiots in situations where it's difficult to steer and stop, but what do they care- - - - -they're moving! Tow truck drivers love guys with all-wheel drive- - - -they laugh all the way to the bank! Jerry
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I can't remember when I have seen a 2 wd pickup Here in Alaska I honestly cannot remember the last time I saw a 2wd pickup. I’m sitting in the bank parking lot waiting for it to open and looking around there’s lots of pickups but no 2wd that I can spot. I do own a 2wd pickup but it’s in my mom’s garage in eastern Washington. I keep an older Ford ranger there to run around in when we’re there.
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I have a two and a 4 wheel drive plus a 4 wheel drive jeep with locking differentials and a Polaris Ranger.
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Around here it seems to be 10 4x4s to the 2 wd. The last 2 wd I had was over 20 years ago and that was just a beater bought for a big move, didn't keep it a year. But we get real winter and there's miles and miles of back roads that are just fine when they're dry. Add an inch of rain and its a whole other ball game.
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In Wyoming, if you wanted a 2 wheel drive pickup you would have to special order it, probably wont find one on a lot. Here in Yuma, not so much, most new trucks are 2WD which surprises me because if you get off the pavement in many spots you are stuck in the sand. You have never been stuck until you have been stuck in deep sand.
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Have had 3 2wd pickups here in AK
2 I imported long ago a 78 Ford and a 81 Chevy Sold them both of course
Then had a 2wd Toyo std cab, sometimes it took me 3-4 tries coming up our snowy driveway, uphill, 1/10 mile long with a 90 degree curve turning into a steeper grade, before you hit the level parking area. Yeeehaww those were the days !
4 4wd trucks these days
If you tried to give me a 2wd drive these days, you might as well ask me to raise a baby !
No thank you very much 🤦🏼♂️
Oh and whomever said Toyota’s are not the trucks they built their rep on is spot on ime.
Have had the 86 2wd and then in 4wd 87, 99, and 2015 versions. My old 99 is a superior truck vs the 2015, though the 2015 has more creature comforts
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