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My BS meter is pegged out past overload.

Did the same on a Doe at 358 with a Leupold 6x42 on a Nula 7mm-08. One apple pies....

shouldn't need to do any turret twisting to kill a deer at 330 yards with a .270 WSM.

Jud, Bama says Leupold scopes suck. Bama is right. Dead critters don't prove [bleep].

Correct. I shot another at 330 with a 4x Leupold with a 3 minute dot. Placed the bottom of the dot on the back line. Which took care of 4+inches of the approximately 9 inches of drop.

However, 330 or a little more isn’t the game the LR people play. Thus I can see were they may see the need to upgrade their equipment to what gives them an increased confidence level.

After watching the Leupold Live Stream, I’m 100% they believe the exact thing and that kinda shiddy attitude will absolutely trickle down to retailers.

Scope choice is just that, a choice...Some will learn about an optic that’s different than what they are accustomed to using, but see a benefit that a new scope can provide them in their hunting situation and decide to try one.

I wish I could care enough about what someone else wants to use as a scope, but, I just don’t...I’m sitting here in Georgia coming off a whitetail deer hunt out of an elevated blind that looked over a food plot surrounded by dense timber. My farthest shot...140 yards.

Did I need my Nightforce? Heck No! Any scope that was a set and forget and had good light gathering capabilities would have been just fine...Now, you change the hunting environment to steep, deep, heavy timber with wide open clear cuts that reach out 800 yards and beyond, where just getting to a position to start hunting can cause you to slip, stumble and fall with your scoped rifle, a guy may see the value in running a known to be robust optic that can take an unexpected hard knock.

It’s a choice...I hate absolutes as they don’t always hold water in every situation...You take Forms situation, look at his gear, his rigs, his optics - every single piece of gear looks like it’s been left in a Section 8 Housing Complex for addled minded drugheads to use and abuse for generations. His case is easy to understand why he needs equipment capable of sucking up the abuse from 1000’s upon 1000’s of rounds and users.

Bottom line, one size doesn’t fit everyone. If you’ve had the chance to hunt multiple states from East to West like some of us have. You’ll understand why some hunting environments, situations, and hunt style don’t necessarily require bomb proof gear. It’s that simple.

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For CumCowboy, I ran a FFP NightForce in dense, thick woody shît and I had zero problems in lowlight tracking a buck I spotted in the woods at 100 yards on low power until he stepped out into the open and into my reticle. I didn’t need to increase my power ring to see my reticle...Hey, but I shoot a lot and don’t fuss over small stuff when it comes to smacking fur.

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Let the whine continue. I just had a epic leupold failure, that’s gonna cost me a bone out pack from hell, pics in a few hours.... 🖕🏿🤘😆

I love you Bama, I’m not gonna argue with you!! 🤣🤣

To the point I made earlier, Leupold may not be the most reliable/robust scope in the world, but apparently it’s reliable enough to cause you some miserable pack-out jobs. Sorry to hear about your success. Prayers sent.

Got to love 2019. People posting on the campfire while hunting

.....and scopes still don’t work. According to some.


A sub 12oz set and forget 6x with MQ reticle would be a dandy, but I’m the only one that wants one.

I’d buy one today...

I hate to even ask this but I need to know. I have people ask me real often what to buy for an inexpensive scope. They usually have an acceptable rifle that came with a piece of crap scope as a package deal. I have been advising them to try a Simmons Whitetail since they almost always are looking for one under $100. First thing I tell them is they would be better off with a $100 rifle and a $600 scope but that doesn't interest these folks. Is the Simmons OK? I checked a lot of rednecks using them when I was patrolling and they liked Simmons and killed a lot of deer using them.

Prayers worked!!! 😂😂

They really don’t, I steal pics, I lie , I spend copious amounts of time on the couch pretending... 🤣🤣

I’m actually excited I get cell service in bf Idaho, handy when you hunt solo all the time... maybe Alaska will get on board eventually?

Nice buck Jud. You're knockin' em down regularly with those Leupy's. Nice work!

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If a less-costly scope fails, it is just desserts for the cheap-ass that tried to get by with it. If a more costly scope fails, it is tragic, but just one of those things as even the best can fail sometimes. At least, that's how I've come to understand the situation from reading here at the 'fire over the years.