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I believe that quote us from Wyatt Earp.

"Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything. In a gun fight... You need to take your time in a hurry."

Wyatt Earp

https://www.google.com/search?q=Wya...ome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=GSriMYEZTS

Just as respectable a source on the topic.

“He who hesitates is lost.”

Sad deal. If the bad guys had viewed the good guy (GG) or the clerk as a threat, they would have gone in shooting or corralled GG and clerk somewhere at gunpoint. (The bad guys obviously had no problem with shooting.) Instead, the bad guys blew right past them in pursuit of the object of their visit. So, the odds are good that GG and the clerk would have been treated the same way on the way out if they had just stood there. GG didn’t do the clerk any favors by choosing to go for it with the clerk out in the open next to the shooter, increasing innocent victim/hostage potential. (The video is edited, so we can’t tell from the video how long the bad guys were channelized and highly vulnerable going away from and coming back to GG, or whether there were any innocents in the area behind the bad guys.) I respect people who make a decision and do something, regardless of the outcome, although I think the clerk got really lucky going after a guy with a gun. RIP, GG.

I doubt those bad guys are going to make the same mistake again. They have been educated. They already are looking at the death penalty (Texas, right?), so shooting more people shouldn’t make too much difference. The next GG to deal with them had better be good!

Hopefully this man's action saved somebody else.

Exactly.

People need to remember this is not about egos, or being macho, tough talk or any other nonsense.

This is about THINKING.

I use a saying that I picked up from a former special mission unit guy who used to be in charge of one part of a selection process for an organization that we worked for.

"We need Thinkers who are Shooters, and Shooters who are Thinkers."

By discussing it here, and dissecting it, to discuss potential lessons learned that was my initial goal.

A few guys here quite frankly give the impression by their posts of being a bit unrealistic as far as what really happens when things get ugly, and by sharing videos such as this, and having guys like MOGC and Sarge discuss their experiences, some may be better off for it.

This brings me to the elephant in the room.
I realize every state has different laws and police are under different expectations.
As a civilian with no body armor I think shooting them as they run away could put you in a bad situation if you accidentally hit innocent bystanders.
You might be better off letting them run and trying to get a good description of them.
I normally fuel up late at night and this could easily happen then. (At a gas station.)

If they are running away then how are you justifying shooting them?

No matter your occupation, you are still responsible for the bullets that leave your gun.

I don't want this to turn into the typical campfire stupidity, so try to stay on point here.

If the person is fleeing and they have not shot anybody, you don't shoot. It is not your job to apprehend.

Your job is to defend yourself., your immediate family.

mackay I think you are giving good info here . stay out of the hero mind set and live to go home to your family

Being a good witness is often the very best choice for a number of reasons.

Mackay,
Watching the video it appears that the man in lighter color pants and dark jacket was chasing them out and shooting at them. Maybe I am wrong.
whelennut

I believe that was a female throwing objects at the robbers, not shooting anything at them.

I don’t know that many people get to make a career out of armed robbery. Seems like it’s usually a spate by the same actor or actors and then they get shot and/or caught. Dunno that they make much more’n pocket change either. LEOs here would know more’n me.

I would guess that the two perps DO have experience in fleeing from hostile elements among their peers, maybe including gunfire aimed in their direction a time or two.

Conditioned reflex; the good guy who has faced robbers before in his own store reflexively draws his gun, the two bad guys flee from danger and/or apprehension like scalded cats, unfortunately shooting that brave and good man on their way out.

JMHO

Mac, great to have you back... You have lots to share and all worth reading.. Thanks..

He left??

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According to his profile, he's been posting pretty regularly for quite some time

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I enjoy his posts, too. When was he gone?