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Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show satir #14339963 12/05/19
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 12,192 Northern Colorado Tracks Campfire Outfitter
Tracks Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 12,192 Northern Colorado	Originally Posted by satir I stopped being a boy decades ago, I bench 250 and do 1000 lbs on the 45 degree leg press.and run 2 miles in 18 minutes, twice a week. Catch up, you're the only one to mention boys, as in boy scouts. Don't know your own posts?

Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show satir #14339965 12/05/19
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 56,301 Likes: 9 Oregon Fireball2 Campfire Kahuna
Fireball2 Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2011 Posts: 56,301 Likes: 9 Oregon	Originally Posted by satir I never said anything about handgun accuracy, just that the .22 mag is weak. If you can't hit what you're aiming at, shooting just becomes a handy way to reveal your position. I'll take the 22 mag. Final answer. _______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack LOL

Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show luv2safari #14339967 12/05/19
Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 19,076 Canyon Ferry, Montana M MontanaMarine Campfire Ranger
MontanaMarine Campfire Ranger M Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 19,076 Canyon Ferry, Montana	Originally Posted by luv2safari I have my survival set. It's an H&R combo set: 20ga 3" 22 Hornet 22 LR sub cal insert for the Hornet I'd have a Lee Loader and components, a small amount, for the Hornet, but I'd carry a lot of loaded ammo, both 22 LR and hornet. For the 20 gauge I'd carry only a few shells, mostly bird shot but also a few slugs and several buckshot. Nice!

Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show carbon12 #14339979 12/05/19
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MontanaMarine Campfire Ranger M Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 19,076 Canyon Ferry, Montana	Originally Posted by carbon12 Originally Posted by MontanaMarine I like that the 22WMR ammo is more weather resistant than the 22 rimfire. I did not know this. Is this a fact that I somehow missed? The 22rimfire bullet isn't a very tight seal, but it does have some wax that helps. In extended exposure to rain, creek crossings, like an extended survival situation, it could get moisture in it. The 22WMR is jacketed, and a tight fit in the case, you cannot wiggle it with your fingers. Of course, Ziploc bags can be a simple way to keep things dry.

Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show satir #14339989 12/05/19
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MontanaMarine Campfire Ranger M Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 19,076 Canyon Ferry, Montana	Anyhoo, satir isn't looking for any good ideas. He's looking for agreement on his choice.

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Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show MontanaMarine #14339998 12/05/19
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 56,301 Likes: 9 Oregon Fireball2 Campfire Kahuna
Fireball2 Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2011 Posts: 56,301 Likes: 9 Oregon	Ima hafta git me some a them luminous sights. Sounds like they's just the thing. _______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack LOL

Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show satir #14339999 12/05/19
Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 3,445 SheriffJoe Campfire Tracker
SheriffJoe Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 3,445	+1 on the M4. Don't ask me about my military service or heroic acts...most of it is untrue. Pronoun: Yes, SIR !

Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show satir #14340024 12/05/19
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pete53 Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 8,298 Northern USA	22 mag has always been my killer gun at home and at camp, it may be the most underated cartridge ever made with plenty power. my choice would be a Savage o/u 22 mag-20 gauge 3 inch, i own two of these o/u`s now. i have been trying convince Savage to make a S.S. plastic stock,takedown 22 mag/20 gauge 3 inch or a 556/20 gauge 3inch with a takedown floating case for this rifle with a small pocket/case on it to hold 3 shotgun shells and a dozen 556 or 22 mag ammo that is water proof. i told them i would buy a dozen for starters LIFE NRA , we vote Red up here, Norseman

Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show satir #14340035 12/05/19
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RichardAustin Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 4,806	A Drilling, in something like 16ga.,, 223, 9.3 Be Polite , Be Professional , but have a plan to kill everybody you meet -General James Mattis United States Marine Corps Nothing is darker than a mau mau's moo moo.

Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show MontanaMarine #14340127 12/05/19
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luv2safari Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 28,172 Here Or There	Originally Posted by MontanaMarine Originally Posted by luv2safari I have my survival set. It's an H&R combo set: 20ga 3" 22 Hornet 22 LR sub cal insert for the Hornet I'd have a Lee Loader and components, a small amount, for the Hornet, but I'd carry a lot of loaded ammo, both 22 LR and hornet. For the 20 gauge I'd carry only a few shells, mostly bird shot but also a few slugs and several buckshot. Nice! We used to keep this in the airplane, back when my son was flying. I think it's just right for that purpose. Hunt with Class and Classics Religion: A founder of The Church of Spray and Pray Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”

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Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show satir #14340165 12/05/19
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SBTCO Campfire Tracker S Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,852 Likes: 2	Considering how much time is spent on forums such as this arguing the virtues of different center fire cartridges and predominantly bolt guns as the carrier of said boolits in putting meat on the table, it's perplexing so many gravitate to .22's and shotguns when the subject of lone survival scenarios and gun choice pops up. A reliable bolt action rifle in a powerful enough cartridge is more efficient at procuring ounce/meat per ounce/ammunition than most other platforms. I'd rather have a lt. wt. bolt gun in 6.5 swede/creed and a big handful of snare wire than all the shotguns and .22lr. in a Cabellas super store. Vihjamur Stefansson proved this by spending years at a time on expedition in the arctic. http://www.thearctic.is/articles/topics/legacystefansson/enska/index.htm He and his team determined that the Mannlicher Schoenauer in 6.5x54 was the way to go and were able to hunt and eat their way across some of the most inhospitable terrain our continent has literally for years. Even Brad Angier pushed the Win. Mod 70 in 30.06 for the best all around woods running gun. Like Ethan mentioned the geography/wildlife should be known before running off into the boonies, but even then, the center fire bolt gun has been the most popular means of filling bellies around the world for over a century. Give me Mauser in 6.5 swede or .06 and I'd be a happy camper. “Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.” ― G. Orwell "Why can't men kill big game with the same cartridges women and kids use?" _Eileen Clarke "Unjust authority confers no obligation of obedience." - Alexander Hamilton

Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show satir #14340175 12/05/19
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MontanaMarine Campfire Ranger M Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 19,076 Canyon Ferry, Montana	Well, wilderness survival, and survival in civil breakdown are two very different scenarios.

Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show satir #14340208 12/05/19
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elkcountry Campfire Regular E Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,463 Northern Colorado	Savage model 24 with a 22mag over 20ga. Elk Country "I refuse to waste my common sense on those who have been educated beyond their intelligence" All you need to know about Democrats is they call American citizens "Deplorables" and illegal immigrants "Dreamers"!

Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show MontanaMarine #14340227 12/05/19
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SBTCO Campfire Tracker S Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,852 Likes: 2	Originally Posted by MontanaMarine Well, wilderness survival, and survival in civil breakdown are two very different scenarios. Agreed, I was under the assumption the OP was referring to scenarios like that on the TV show, out alone in the "wilderness". But yeah, societal breakdown and I'm still keeping my bolt gun but adding to the mix ... “Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.” ― G. Orwell "Why can't men kill big game with the same cartridges women and kids use?" _Eileen Clarke "Unjust authority confers no obligation of obedience." - Alexander Hamilton

Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show satir #14340228 12/05/19
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Girlhunter Campfire Regular G Joined: Sep 2017 Posts: 665	Bolt action 223 'If you say the parent you were most afraid when you were a kid was your dad, you grew up in the city.'

Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show EthanEdwards #14340338 12/05/19
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centershot Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 10,757 Southern Idaho	Originally Posted by EthanEdwards Originally Posted by centershot Lots of bears on those shows. Think I'd want something bigger than a .223. 12 ga with slugs and shot would be a good choice. A bear can eat my ass after I shoot him with a 45-70 just as easy as a 556. You think it really matters Eddie? No offense intended. What the hell are you talking about, Eddie? These bears are hunting you, not the other way around. Point blank in the dark just across the lean to shelter. A 12ga with slugs at 10ft sounds like pretty good medicine to me. 437.5gr slugs @ 1800 fps from a 12 ga generates over 3100ft/lbs. Having 5 more in the magazine for backup ain't a bad idea either. When not in use for self protection there are usually ducks, geese, ptarmigen, grouse, squirrels, etc. for sustenance. Last edited by centershot; 12/05/19. A true sportsman counts his achievements in proportion to the effort involved and fairness of the sport. - S. Pope

Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show EthanEdwards #14340363 12/05/19
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hunter4623 Campfire Regular H Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,771 Gen X	Originally Posted by EthanEdwards [/quote]Ain't a satir one of them goats with a man's head? I thought it was that funky guitar those Indian dudes pluck.

Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show elkcountry #14340424 12/05/19
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plainsman456 Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 11,920 Plains,Texas	I have a double barrel 20 ga.and have a Savage model 24 22 mag /20 gauge. I also have an insert chambered for the 30 carbine that does a nice job out to 100 yards and because the barrels are so long it is real nice on the ears.

Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show Fireball2 #14340442 12/05/19
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Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,242 Likes: 3	Originally Posted by Fireball2 Originally Posted by EthanEdwards Originally Posted by Fireball2 22 magnum bolt action No offense but why in hell would you pick a 22 Mag.? Ammo is expensive and not nearly as easily as procured as a plain LR. Certainly they are better in a lot of applications, but so is a 223. Don't get it. Survival situation I doubt I'm going to be comparison shopping for value. I don't think $12 for 50 rounds of ammo is going to break the bank anyhow. I chose the 22 magnum because it'll kill what needs killing big or small w/o destroying the small, and I can carry a schitload of it. I'm right there with you. I've already killed everythinvg that walks, flies or crawls from rabbits and squirrels to grouse and deer with my Marlin 882 many times over. It is very accurate for a .22 magnum {honest MOA} with it's preferred loads. I know the trajectory like the back of my hand and can kill woodchuck size critters regularly to 175 yards. Rabbits and squirrels are dead meat at 100 easily. Have killed several deer with lung shots using 40 gr hps and they've never gone more than 80 yards. Head shot they've dropped like a lead balloon. I can carry alot of ammo with me and have 4 spare 7 shot magazines and two 4 shot magazines. The rifle has never malfunctioned or broken since I bought it new in 1990 but I do have a spare extractor and firing pin on hand just in case.

Re: if one gun was picked to survive, like Alone TV show satir #14340445 12/05/19
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NEBHUNTER Campfire Regular N Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 839 Nebraska	12 Ga SxS with two triggers so I can pick slug or birdshot

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