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Looking closely at a Weathermark Mark V for a 6.5 Creed mid range hunting platform. Handled one in a different caliber recently, and everything looked top notch. Super smooth action, great trigger. One thing kinda caught my eye, though- apparently Weatherby intentionally engineers a contact point between the stock and barrel towards the front end of the stock to improve accuracy on light sporter profile rifles. I know they know more about barrel harmonics than I ever will, but this just seems counterintuitive to everything I've ever learned about rifles- any pressure on a barrel can and will change with different rests, conditions or temperatures and inconsistency equals loss of accuracy.

So, who has experience with this? Accurate across a range of conditions as is, or would it be worthwhile to consider removing that contact point and bedding the action to the stock instead? How far do I make it on the idiocy scale for entertaining the idea of taking a dremel to the stock of a $1200 rifle? Thanks for any input.

Calling Fotis, come in Fotis...




P

I cant chime in on the higher end stuff but I do have a Vanguard S2 in 25-06. It was pretty easy to get a sub MOA load worked up for it with Barnes TTSX. I still think it is the most rifle you can get for 479 to 499. Stock feels like a rifle stock, trigger is great and the action is VERY smooth. No plastic trigger guards or safeties either.

I have an Accumark in .270win and the gun is ridiculously accurate. It makes me look like Im good at shooting. Its my confidence hunting rifle.

I had both of my Mk V’s “speed bumps” cut out. Both rifles, 7 Wby UL & 280 UL are extremely accurate after the sanding & bedding, not so prior. Both are repeatable & predictable in accuracy with several bullet weights. The 280 UL is especially comfortable to shoot & carry.

Your concern is quite valid. I have only seen two Wby’s that actually preferred the pressure point, both were 300 Wby’s. I have worked with about a dozen MK V’s other than my five.

I’ve had several, all shot well.

Weatherby and a bunch of others use speed bumps. Shoot the rifle first. If your going to take a dremel to the stock then be prepared to bed the front lug correctly. I lost count of the number of Mark V's I have owned , only one was a problem and it had nothing to do with accuracy and that was 20 years ago. Weatherby replaced it.

I've owned and hunted with Weatherbys my entire life. They are well made, accurate rifles but I recognize they are not for everybody and if you go to the expense of owning one, get it a Weatehrby caliber.

So now that's my decision... do I want to spend that kind of money on a rifle that I know has a potential design flaw that I may have to "fix?" Not that doing a bedding job is a big deal- I've gotten my Marine Tex and Kiwi shoe polish technique down pretty well at this point. Tough call, though. Several other rifles that are close to the same price point do not share such a concern (Bergara Premier Mountain, Barrett Fieldcraft) but have Remington 700 style two position safeties which I don't like, and I've never been able to find either to see in person. Decisions, decisions.

Interesting perspective. Why would you recommend against getting one in a mainstream caliber? I'll never shoot more than 500 yards at game, and 6.5 Creed gives perfectly acceptable performance at a price point that fits my budget.

Prolly shouldn't even comment since I've never owned a Weatherby...But, for a few years around here I did very well with a plain jane model 70 .308 that was a real sleeper at the local turkey shoots. Then along came a couple fellows moved into the area, one with a .257 Wby and one with a .300 Wby (with a barrel contour about the size of a buggy whip). They routinely spanked my ass with them cannons. I got no beef with the Creed, I love mine, but don't underestimate the proprietary calibers in Weatherby.

......................Well imo, I think you would be well or better served if you can acquire a newer Sheridan Wyoming version of the Weathermark now on their site. Made a few improvements.

I have an Accumark chambered in 338-378. She is one accurate and booming piece using the best reloads she likes....On the heavy side but dats ok....

If ya go to the Bee site they have a Q&A section there which will answer your barrel free float and pressure point questions. Basically the heavier #3 contour barrels are free floated such as my Accumark, while the #2 and thinner tubes require a contact or pressure point in order to combat their tendency to be a little more whippy (barrel harmonics) than the heavier #3 barrels............

If my buddy makes me a good enough offer (he wants my Accumark), then I will replace it with one of the new and improved Wyoming MK5 Bees. .

I have a 2006 model Mark V in 270 Weatherby and it is very accurate, 3 shots touching on the average day with Weatherby Ammo. I have a late 1980's Vanguard deluxe in 270 Weatherby that recently put 5 shots in the same hole that could be covered with a nickel. My Vanguard S2 in 300 Weatherby is another that is scary accurate 3 shots under a dime with weatherby brand ammo. So I cannot complain one bit. I have not tried any handloads out of any of them as the $36.00 dollar a box Weatherby select ammo shoots really well.


The Mark V and the Vanguard deluxe are both bedded and barrels are floated ( bought both of them used that way). The 300 Weatherby is straight out of the box, no bedding and there is a slight pressure point. Can't find a reason to mess with it.

I’ve owned several Wby Mk Vs over the years and all were very good shooting rifles. My son owns one of the UL models in 270Win and it’s a great shooting rig. Handles several bullets in different weights and shoots amazingly small groups for such a light rig.
My old buddy Jorge is a Wby purist, he can’t stand a Wby cartridge in anything but their rifles, and can’t own a Wby rifle chambered to anything but one of their cartridges!

I'm justifying spending this amount of dineros by seeing the bedding idea as a backup- I'll shoot it, see if it achieves the tiny little Weatherby groups you often hear about, and if not, bust out my dremel and Marine Tex.



I do wish dearly I could afford to feed a rifle in a Weatherby-specific cartridge... a guy can dream.

OXN939,do you handload?

I feel the exact same way. The only standard cartridge I ever owned in a Mark V was a 280 in the 6lug.

Again very few rifles do not have a foreend tip when they are put in a synthetic stock. These manufacturers will not bother putting in a dab of epoxy behind the lug. Bergara Premier Mountain, Barrett Fieldcraft are layed up stocks. If you can afford a new Weathermark then you surely can afford a weatherby specific cartridge.

The stock on any rifle is so easy to replace. My new Sako 85 is the second of two to have its factory stock turn into a sticky mess. The barreled actions, being the business center of the guns, are the finest commercial rifles I own. I have one custom stocked & the other soon to be. These are near $1600 each & should never have had any issues.

No way I would pass on the gun over a stock problem.

Spot on !

Seems many are either forgetting or are ignorant of firearms history. For decades a slight pressure point at the fore end of the stock was SOP. I suspect it went away when glass bedding became popular and proven effective. However, on some rifles it still works to "bring one to its milk". Never heard it called a speed bump but that's kinda cute.

Interesting,to say the least.

man, i personally would't get a mark 5 in a creed. just get the vanguard s2. only way i'd get a mark 5 action is if i wanted a wby specific caliber. speaking of that man i wish wby would chamber the vanguard s2 in either 270 bee or 7mm bee.
Big Ed

...............Agreed!.......If ya gonna get a MK5 rifle then get the Weatherby specific cartridge of your choice. Vanguards can go either way imo; Weatherby rounds and non Weatherby rounds.

I think Weatherby will continue to maintain the 270 Bee and 7mm Bee only within their Mk5 line for reasons of exclusivity. Imo, you should not make every Weatherby round available in the Vanguard line because sales of MK5s would more than likely decline somewhat.. It is a marketing balancing act.

As they should, Weatherby should keep the the MK5 and Vanguards somewhat distinct from each other where chamberings are concerned rather than overlap too much in their offerings.

It would be nice to see the .224 Weatherby up thru to the 300 Weatherby in the Vangaurd lineup. The .340 and up remain in the Mark V lineup along with the smaller rounds.

i fell strongly the same way elk. just mainly cause i want a 7mm bee,or 270 bee if thats all i could get,in the vanguard action. even if they would do just a special run with the 7mm bee,or again the 270 bee,using the vanguard action. i mean they use the vanguard for the 300 bee and its hotter than either of what i'm asking about so obviously the action is strong enough.
Big Ed

I would love to see Weatherby bring back the .224 Wby. For some reason that cartridge just intrigues me and whether it's the Mark V or Vangaurd I don't care.

It is fine to sand the speed bump off provided you free float and bed the action, otherwise you will wreck your guns accuracy. Make sure you are willing to do that before you move forward.

Why not? Better stock, Triggertech, cerakote, better action, better safety, cheaper ammo, better ammo availability, similar performance at moderate hunting ranges... etc, etc...

Recently added a weathermark in 240. Scoped it but haven't shot it yet. Been busy with deer and bear season here, and holidays of course. It's keeping my others company until I can get it to the range. Mine shoot well without being messed with.

Well, I have two Weatherby cartridges, 240 and 257, both build on Win 70 actions!

.............You make good points. However it would be difficult for most Bee fans imo, to acquire a Mk5 chambered in non Weatherby rounds. Especially in a less powerful round like the Creed when ya got the 257 and 270 Wby Mags as other choices...Also and I could be wrong; Wby fans asscociate the MK5 with the higher performing Weatherby rounds...I do!

Given all of the expenses and associated expenses in the hunting sport, the differences in ammo costs between say the 257 Wby and 270 Wby vs the Creed is minimal imo..

[/quote].............You make good points. However it would be difficult for most Bee fans imo, to acquire a Mk5 chambered in non Weatherby rounds. Especially in a less powerful round like the Creed when ya got the 257 and 270 Wby Mags as other choices...Also and I could be wrong; Wby fans asscociate the MK5 with the higher performing Weatherby rounds...I do!


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I hear ya indeed. Like I said before, I aspire one day to be a legitimate Weatherby owner with one in the correct caliber. Maybe if this one's a tack driver, it'll make up my mind to pursue that idea down the road. However, for the time being, I don't have access to reloading equipment and would rather get lots of trigger time becoming intuitively familiar with my rifle than be only a decent shot with an ultra high speed round for the same cost. The idea is a lower 48 hunting rig that can keep MOA systemic accuracy to 500 with adequate expansion from copper monolithic ammunition, and I think a Weathermark in 6.5 Creed seems to fit the bill.

oxn i'm not gonna argue with you bud and you spend all the money you want.but, as far as i know the mark 5 wbys still use a b&c medalist stock just like my vanguard and my vanguard has cerakote. i also don't think action strength should be brought up as the creed won't stress either action. like i said if i'm buying a mark 5 it'll be in a wby specific caliber that i can't get in a vanguard s2. i don't know this for a fact but i'd bet the mark 5 9 lug action has to be heavier than the opposing lug vanguard s2.
good luck and buy what you want bud,
Big Ed

I’ve had both the 224 and 22-250 in the little mark v actions. The 22-250 is as good if not better than the 224.
Given the cost brass at the time I preferred the 22- 250. Accuracy was about the same. The 224 was German and the 22-250 was Jap. But had a Shelin barrel.
The German rifle was gorgeous, the jap was just so so . It rode a lot of miles in my jeeps. Hasbeen

I hear ya indeed. Like I said before, I aspire one day to be a legitimate Weatherby owner with one in the correct caliber. Maybe if this one's a tack driver, it'll make up my mind to pursue that idea down the road. However, for the time being, I don't have access to reloading equipment and would rather get lots of trigger time becoming intuitively familiar with my rifle than be only a decent shot with an ultra high speed round for the same cost. The idea is a lower 48 hunting rig that can keep MOA systemic accuracy to 500 with adequate expansion from copper monolithic ammunition, and I think a Weathermark in 6.5 Creed seems to fit the bill. [/quote].....................I understand ya........The Creed imo serves its purpose as being perhaps the most practical 6.5mm cartridge............Low recoil, lower ammo costs, hi bullet BCs for better downrange performance,,etc and etc......The Creed has everything any 6.5 mm aficionado would want.......

My problem with it, is commonality. Damn thing is too popular. Certainly not a good reason for not wanting to own one I suppose, But some like me prefer the less common, less practical and more exotic rounds. A 300 WSM is the most common cartridge I own followed up by the 375 Ruger....A 6.5/300 Bee is quite appealing though....LOL

I hear ya indeed. Like I said before, I aspire one day to be a legitimate Weatherby owner with one in the correct caliber. Maybe if this one's a tack driver, it'll make up my mind to pursue that idea down the road. However, for the time being, I don't have access to reloading equipment and would rather get lots of trigger time becoming intuitively familiar with my rifle than be only a decent shot with an ultra high speed round for the same cost. The idea is a lower 48 hunting rig that can keep MOA systemic accuracy to 500 with adequate expansion from copper monolithic ammunition, and I think a Weathermark in 6.5 Creed seems to fit the bill. [/quote].....................I understand ya........The Creed imo serves its purpose as being perhaps the most practical 6.5mm cartridge............Low recoil, lower ammo costs, hi bullet BCs for better downrange performance,,etc and etc......The Creed has everything any 6.5 mm aficionado would want.......

My problem with it, is commonality. Damn thing is too popular. Certainly not a good reason for not wanting to own one I suppose, But some like me prefer the less common, less practical and more exotic rounds. A 300 WSM is the most common cartridge I own followed up by the 375 Ruger....A 6.5/300 Bee is quite appealing though....LOL[/quote]

I was told by no less an authority then the counter guy at Sportsmans warehouse that the Creed is for target shooting only. If you want a serious hunting cartridge they start at 270 W and up.

this.

Their custom Shop is building me a backcountry 240 bee with their new 7.5 twist barrel as we speak. 6 lug

Fotis: I really like my 240. As always very accurate and surprisingly LIGHT. Speaking of light, the new 340 Weathermark I just purchased is also well balanced and very light as compared to say, an Accumark.

Absolutely sir

I have a 240 weatherby Accumark which weighs 7.3 ounces, it shoots old Southgate 100 grain factory spitzers into a very tiny group. I will run Barnes 80 TTSX for deer thru it next month.
Have you weighed your Weathermark? I would be interested to see what it weighs in at , any Mark V I have bought in the past with a synthetic stock weighed 8+ pounds. My 7 WBY Accumark weighs 8lb.10 ounces but it has a HS precision stock which is an upgrade over the B&C stock they put in later Accumarks, it is a hammer as well.

Have not weighed it, but all I can tell you it feels significantly lighter than my AM or my wood stocked MKV Deluxes.

backcountry being a vanguard s2 correct?
Big Ed

Not Fotis but it is a Mark V

Several years ago, I tried the 80 TTSX in my .240 at 3,600 fps on a WT doe at 100+ yds. It blew out a huge chunk of the chest wall, went thru the chest cavity with only min. damage. Doe ran over a 150 yds in the wood, had to be found at night with flashlights. NOT impressive.

Some say mono's don't have a velocity ceiling. Not sure about that. A low S.D. bullet at hypervelocity can do some strange things on critters. I'm now shooting 100 NPT's in my .240, over MRP. Best group so far, 3 shot 1.7" at 400 yds. Doubt I could do that again, but the gun did it once. And, I know, three shot group...

It's an HS Precision SPL now in a Hunters Edge. Sold the 42 oz HS stock, Hunters Edge weighs 26 oz. I don't buy HS stuff, still remember the Lon Horiuchi fiasco, traded for this rifle, used. So, HS didn't make a dime off this deal. They do make good stuff, although I think their stocks are a bit heavy.

DF

ok thabks elk. guess when i saw backcountry i thought vanguard as i didn't know the backcountry line crossed over to the mark 5's. i thought the backcountry was a vangard line exclusively.guess i shoulda been tipped off when he said 6 lug as the vanguard is 2 opposing lugs huh??
Big Ed

If I was going to spend $1,200 on a Weaatherby in 6.5 Creedmoor, I would spend it on a Weatherguard and whatever style of McM stock that works best for you.

I bought a V2 in 6.5 Creedmoor in 02/14 and it has been the most accurate straight out of the box regular production center-fire rifle that I've yet to own. Since then, I've bedded it in a McM Hunter styler stock and it shoots a little better than it did in the OEM stock.

Well, that is interesting, I wonder how it would do high shoulder? I will handload for this thing for next year but in the meantime looking for factory ammo for it right now. I have 3 boxes of 100 grain spitzers currently and 2 boxes of 80 grain TTSX coming in the next week. If I could find 100 grain partitions that would be the bullet of choice. I am hunting the middle of January next year so time is not on my side to handload it . Overall I am pretty pleased with both of my Accumarks. I have not weighed the stocks or even thought of replacing them. .

Ok, since you guys have been talking about Weatherbys I will go ahead and ask a few questions. Rifle Looney Bug has been working on me for a while now, I am wanting a lite weight Left Hand rifle to deer hunt with. The MK V Weatherby Weatherguard LT and the MK V Backcountry have gotten my attention. I must add that I have never owned a Weatherby, but have kept up with them a little bit over the years.

I have mainly used Remington Model 700’s and Winchester Model 70’s along with Browning Bar MK II’s and even a Pre 64 Model 94 Winchester 30-30. All those rifles worked fine and I have taken dozens of deer with those, but there was one big problem. All of those rifles are right handed and I shoot long guns left handed because I am left eye dominant. Main reason for switching to a left hand rifle is, I am worried about a blown primer or case rupture in my face. Also I think I can become a little more proficient with the bolt handle being on the left side. One other thing is I am getting up in my years in my mid 50’s and I want to lighten things up some, but at the same time, not hunt with a rifle that’s going to loosen my fillings with excessive recoil.

Here is what I am looking for in a new left hand rifle for a reasonable price. I am seriously looking at a lite weight, durable rifle of great quality to whitetail deer hunt with, mainly in the woods. Most shots will be 100 yards to right under the tree stand type hunting, but there are opportunities for some 300 yard shots. The rifle must be stainless steel and coated in a weather resistant type finish like Cerakote or other durable coating. I take care of my guns, but I don’t want to worry about wiping down rifles at the end of the day to get rid of fingerprints, worrying about rust. The rifle would have to endure some rain and snowy type weather at times. Of course the rifle and caliber need to be able to take a whitetail deer in an efficient manner, eliminating lots of unnecessary tracking episodes. I understand bang flops are not guaranteed with any rifle of course.

Ok as far as caliber or cartridge, I know my choices are very limited to about three different ones since I am looking at a lite weight, left hand rifle. The 257 Weatherby, 300 Weatherby and the 6.5-300 Weatherby. If I recall correctly I think bigger rounds such as the 30-378 and 338-378 might be available in the Mark V Accumarks? Sorry not interested in those big thumpers. Out of the first three I mentioned I have been looking real hard at the 257 Weatherby and the 6.5-300 Weatherby. My first concern is about how much recoil there is with those two in a lit weight rifle. Also will the 6.5-300 Weatherby burn a barrel out a lot faster than the .257 Weatherby would. If I failed to mention earlier that whatever rifle I purchase will be mainly a hunting rifle with limited rounds fired each year, mainly checking loads and the scope zero, then off on the deer hunting trip with very few rounds fired while hunting. Other words I will not be sitting down at the bench shooting at targets on a regular basis. Am I correct in assuming that the Weatherby Vanguards are not offered in a left hand version?

Ok let’s talk about the durability of the Cerakote finish on the Weatherby rifles. How is it holding up on your rifle, do you ever discover any rust anywhere on your rifle? How does it compare durability wise to other finishes on other rifles such as the XCR finish on the Remington Model 700’s?

Last but not least, any cons or pros related to the Weatherby Rifles? I have been looking at other rifles from Christensen Arms, Cooper Arms, Fierce Arms and Nosler. Those companies offer a wider selection of cartridges and calibers in left hand rifles than Weatherby does, but are they built as well as the Weatherby Rifle. I do see some negative reviews on the other rifles I mentioned, time to time, it could be someone gets a lemon now and then. It seems the Weatherby Mark V is a very strong built action, what makes it any better than a Cooper Arms, Fierce or Nosler? Nine bolt lugs compared to two or three lugs and a 54 degree bolt throw?

Sorry about getting long winded, any input from you guys would be appreciated.

I always rub out the contact point. Dropped the POI about 7 inches at 100 recently on a 257 Mk V.

Have you considered a Tikka?

Shoulder shots will put’em down quicker, but busts up the meat. The 80 TTSX at 240 speed will probably trash the shoulders. My 26 Nosler will bust up stuff, 120 TTSX at 3,450.

I much prefer the 100 NPT in the 240.

DF

100 sounds like the best bet if the 80 is that destructive.

That’s my take. Wouldn’t have thought, but it is what it is.

DF

I have looked at the Tikkas, but they are lacking some features, that I prefer such as a floor plate and a weather resistant coating such as Cerakote. I know a person could buy one and have it cerakoted or paint it himself, but I want a rifle that's ready to hunt hard, right out of the box. I don't know about how much a problem it is or how true it is, but I keep reading on the internet about stainless Tikka rifles rusting even after some pre treatment such as oiling the gun. Of course you know how the internet is, there is a bunch of bullsh%t flying around, keyboard cowboys get big and say about anything. I realize stainless on about any rifle can rust, that's why I want a little extra protection on it such as Cerakote. I own two model 700 right hand XCR rifles that have the Trinyte finish on them, I have never seen the first sign of rust on those rifles after hunting in wet harsh conditions. Also I might add that those rifle don't get wiped down everyday after being in the field on dry days, there is no need to. Remington made those XCR rifles in a left hand version years ago, but I failed to act on buying one.

After saying all that, I wouldn't completely rule out a stainless Tikka in the future, but I have my sights set on other rifles right now.

Good point about stainless Tikkas. I hunt in Oregon, where it’s known to rain from time to time. My rifles are stainless Tikkas and I’ve never had an issue.

Buy what makes you happy. These days it’s tough to go wrong.




P

I have owned/own 4 Tikka T3x/T3 all stainless as well as 2 Sako A7 stainless and never saw the first bit of rust. There is no rifle made under 1k that ready to hunt out of the box like a Tikka. You have to jack with every last rifle except a Tikka. If you are that paranoid about rust then cerakote the Tikka.

MK V back country

What do you think of the Backcountry Fotis, especially the stock and weight? How does the stock compare shape and slimness wise to the MKV Ultralightweight (which I have lots of experience with)? I have a guy who wants to do a partial trade with one, very few rounds fired through it, 257 Wby. Never owned a 257 Wby, and since you wont sell me your MKV (lol), I’m thinking of trying the Backcountry. It’s either the Backcountry or a Browning BLR in 7mm-08 that he’s offering as part of the deal...

I will advise you when I get it. 30 more days

or just get the tikka,caution i'm i big fan,and when you get it break it down and take barreled action outta the stock and eezox the heck outta it. never had rust issues with my tikkas,either blued or ss,since i do that. really never had an issue before but the eezox is supposed to bond with the metal which i believe it does as when you do eezox a blued gun and make a booboo and scratch it the metal won't accept cold blue that i've witnessed. a tikka t3x in 7mm rem mag would be a hard choice to beat for most things here in north america minus the big bears.
Big Ed

I have owned or still own about 12 Mark V's and only one in a Weatherby caliber, a 240 WM. I like the 6 lug action and all have been excellent in the accuracy department. I understand the whole Mark V should be in a Weatherby cartridge but if you want a 6.5 creed, 270 win, 308, etc and like the Mark V, then buy it. It will not disaapoint

As others have stated owning a MKV it would have to be in a Wby chamber, preferably 257 Wby or 270 Wby. Either would supply classic fun and amazement.

Please do update when you get it. I'd be interested to hear the report.



I'll pose the same questions as before. Why would it be such an abomination to get a MK V in a mainstream caliber, such as the 6.5 Creed I originally mentioned? Over the Vanguards, they have:

-Better action
-Better trigger
-Cerakoted finish
-Significantly lighter
-Made in USA
-22 v 24" barrel
-Flush magazine floor plate

So, is the heresy of my idea just because MK Vs "should be chambered in a proprietary Weatherby caliber?" Or am I missing something?

I don't. I'm asking if there's any practical reason people keep saying "I'd only own one in a Weatherby caliber."

You are incorrect about the barrel length. For 6.5 Creed, which I originally started the thread about, the MK V Weatherguard has a 22" barrel. Feel free to check it at the following link.

You can, indeed, get a cerakoted Vanguard... which is called the backcountry, and has an MSRP over a thousand dollars. By the time I'm there, might as well just go with the MK V.

Yes I generally buy Weatherby Mark V's so I can shoot Weatherby Cartridges . So far 240,270,7mm,300 and 340 in CM and SS and no issues except one poorly made 6 lug a very long time ago..

Yes I was incorrect about the barrel length but the Vanguard has a # 2 contour vs # 1 contour on the weathermark . I bet the Vanguard outshoots it handily.

Vanguard also comes in 410 SS and is not CM coated like the weathermark. I would rather have the 410 SS any day of the week instead of overrated cerakote .

Again Buy what you want it's your money.

Not only an abomination, but a flogging offense in that pocket T shirt of all calibers....

i own 2 mark 5 Weatherby rifles both have a fiber type stock,i glass bedded and floated both barrels on my rifles and both shot better.

just personally,and i've never owned a mark 5 action, i don't see the need for the mark 5 in that they are significantly heavier that the vanguard action and i've had great luck with the vanguard line also personally. IF wby offered their cals in the vanguard line i'd buy them vs the mark 5 still. their big selling point is the mark 5's strength. well, 2 lug actions handle some mule stompers too. so i guess i just don't buy the whole strength thing. i do like wby cals and would go with one if needed vs a new fangled wizzzzm or whatever that says they can duplicate velos. its just a personal thang bud. if you want the mark 5 to say you have a mark 5 then gooooo with it man. what i'm saying is that you won't get any benefits either perceived or real from the mark 5 in the 6.5cm. you just don't need all that mass for such a mild caliber.
Big Ed

A 6.5 Creedmoor will come in the slimmer 6 lug MkV. Is that one much heavier than the Vanguard?

What about a MkV with 24" #2 Brux chambered for 7RM in a McWoody Wby Express and Timney trigger?

Add a VX-6 2-12x42 in med LW Talley rings?

DF

And when the bolt knob bumps the trigger finger, shooting off the bench, fix it so it doesn't. And, you can't see the cut from a lateral shot with bolt closed.

I have a six lug accumark with a #3 barrel and it weighs less then a Vanguard 7lbs 3 oz without a scope.

My 9 lug accumark weighs 8 3/4 lbs without a scope.

There appears to be some general confusion about this. The MK V I started this thread originally about is between 8 and 30 ounces lighter than the Vanguard series, depending on model. This is another reason I am considering it as a well rounded, lightweight mountain rifle... which, evidently, is one step below Mossberg creating a tactical lever action in terms of firearms heresy

On the lightweight 6 lug a 6.5 Creedmoor would make a nifty deer rifle, and I'd like it just to thumb my nose at the anti-Creed Luddites.

It would also make a nice little brother for my 80's vintage 9 lug Deluxe in 300 Wby. with the 26" heavier contour barrel.

I have one in 6.5 bee rpm on order from their custom shop. Hope it’s a shooter!

It's gonna be interesting to see how the 6.5 RPM does in an already crowded 6.5 field. I'm thinking they need to follow the Hornady playbook regarding good brass at reasonable prices, etc. although that hasn't been their past practice. I think if they offered the RPM in the Vanguard, that would be a sales enhancing move.

Ya reckon ole Roy would roll over in his grave, with this new, non belted, non venturi, non double radiused round wearing the Wby headstamp...?

Hmmm....

DF

I don`t think old Roy was impressed with any Vanguards either ? but old Roy would have liked the 6.5x300 Weatherby Mag. cartridge !

For sure the 6.5-300. But, I think that round was already a wildcat while he was still alive. That was before the 6.5 craze, or he'd have probably rolled it out back then, IMO.

Roy would like the bottom line and I think he'd be respectful of the boys rising to the occasion, innovating, selling guns and ammo.

Roy was a businessman.

DF

yep your right, i just don`t care much for Vanguard rifles and i read someplace Roy really did not like Howa action/Vanguards either much except the money part. Weatherby Mark 5`s really are the only true Weatherby`s for me.

To me the MkV is a faster cycling action than the 90* Vanguard. I'm not sure how important that may be in a bolt gun, just my observations.

I only have one MkV and it wears a #2, 24" 7RM Brux.

My only Wby round is a .240 in an HS Precision SPL with Hunters Edge stock.

Go figure.

DF

Own 2 Mark Vs. 270 wby and 257 wby. My 270 is stainless with factory synthetic stock with "speed bumps". It's shoots awesome, see target, everything is as from factory with Weatherby ammo. Cost me $500 for the rifle.

My 257 is a deluxe model.

I'm always on the lookout for Weatherby rifles. Well made, smooth action, great trigger and shoots amazing.

Bud and I built a pair of 26 Noslers on old 7RM M-700’s. He later had a well worn 7RM Ruger 77 rebarreled with Shilen 270 Wby.

After working with these two rounds, it appeared to me that the 270 Wby would do with 130’s about what the 26 Nos does with 140’s, burning a lot less powder. For what we do and the game we shoot, the 270 Wby seems the better choice. Our WT deer can’t tell the difference, 130’s from 140’s. Maybe with heavier game.

The trajectories with those two loads were about the same, kill stuff about the same. IMO, the 270 Wby is a sleeper. Bud uses his more than the Nosler.

DF

Guys, I am still looking real hard at a Mark V along with some of the other rifles from Cooper, Christensen Arms and Fierce. It seems that I can't find much information as to what steel the Mark V action is made of.

Is it chrome Moly, stainless or something else. Also it appears that the Mark V Weathermak is just a blued rifle with a Cerakote finish on it. Kind of disappointing I wished it was all stainless under that coating. So that kind of points me towards a Mark V Accumark with the stainless barrel, but there again what is the action made of?

Those of you that own or have owned Weatherby Rifles, can you convince me that a Weatherby is a better rifle than like a Christensen Mesa or Fierce Edge? It seems the Mark V Action has a lot going for it, but what else would be a pro with the Weatherby other than a Weatherby Cartridge?

Years a go I traded a M12 Winchester reproduction 20 ga that just wouldn't smooth up for a used Mk V Sporter in 270 Wthby Mag satin blue and stock finish. The rifle had a Beuhler (still does) one piece base on it seems like the rings are a looong way apart and the only scope I had that would work was an old Burris 6x. 130's and 140 just didn't shoot as well as I wanted, by chance I tried a max load of IMR 7828 and 150 gr Horn SP's they were a marriage from the start. Sometimes I wonder why I ever bother to hunt with anything else as when I carry it on the prairie I all ways come up with a great (for me ) whitetail buck. Seems popular for some to bad mouth the Weatherby look but it is simply the lightest recoiling Magnum rifle I've ever owned or shot. It's one of those lucky guns for me and I'll have it till I croak. MB

The Mark V action was designed for Rigby Sized cartridge cases. A Creedmoor hull would seem like a primer in that action. The 6 lug version would be a possibility but I would recommend the Vanguard over the Mark V if you are set on this cartridge.

Big R stores has a consignment of these in Boyd Laminated stocks for about $600 right now. (I do not work for them)