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Hmm, here is a fact.

The president ran on limiting foreign aid.

He called a halt and relook at all foreign aid when he took over.

He sets the policy on foreign aid, not congress.

Congress Ukraine aid bill demanded that the govn look at corruption in Ukraine.

That is exactly what got done.

Liberal lemmings get over it.

However, I am glad they lowered the bar on impeachment. That means in 2021 when Republicans take over the house again, they can use the Schiff for Brains rules and impeach Schiff, Nadler and Pelosi for obstruction of justice, consipiracy etc. Turn about is fair play. Beware of what you ask for Demoncrats.

shaman,
Your critical thinking and common sense is firing on all 8 cylinders......

You want honest?

Ok, the left has no option but to try to get rid of Trump, because he IS getting rid of them and their NWO handlers and financers.

See what has happened to the leftest scum in the FBI while yet still more justice is headed their way.

The crooked criminal scum like Piglosi, podestas, Schifty, Nadler and many more of your heros are probably headed to prison unless they have their way with Trump.

Get a clue. Trump didnt lie. Biden is a stone cold crook. You cant connect the dots. Hes a multimilliomaire 1 percenter who never held a real job. Hillary and Zero are almost there also.

They are fighting for their lives.

Here's how I think this happens. Did Trump hold back the money? Yes. But that's entirely his right to do so. It comes down to they why.

D's are spinning it as he held it to inflict pressure to get an investigation into a political rival for his own benefit and the only reason he released the money was people were about to find out so he did it so he wouldn't get caught.

Think about that for a minute. The only fact is he did delay the release of the money. Which is his right. Everything else is trying to read his mind. If this were to be in a court of law (which it isn't) it's a slam dunk, give one viable reason for him to have delayed and then released that is NOT for his personal benefit and you get "not guilty".

YOu simply can't convict someone because you THINK they had ulterior motives.

Liberal hate conservatives because they believe our motives are bad..... it's based on feelings rather than facts. They are mentally deficient .

And another thing:

You're Donald Trump. You've already got Joe Biden admitting he blackmailed Ukraine using US foreign aid money to get the Ukrainians to fire the prosecutor that was going after your son-- ON YOUTUBE NO LESS!!!!

See 52:33



Now tell me that you need to risk your political neck trying to dig up any more dirt on the guy.

He held the money from Ukraine but it wasn't because he wanted them to investigate his political opponents, it's because he didn't trust them because of their corruption. Seems a lot of people are forgetting that little fact.

The progressive fascists are taking legal actions of the president wrapping them in poop and using it as an excuse to impeach the one they hate.

Biden’s actions re Ukraine cry out for investigation of his apparent corruption. This investigation requires the cooperation of Ukraine and given the recent history of corruption in Ukraine’s government it’s just commonsense to use the leverage that our foreign aid provides to obtain their cooperation.

Trump did nothing wrong.

Not only that, Trump did RIGHT.

If you're not willing to call a spade what it is, we can't have an honest discussion. Was it okay for Trump to invite foreign interference on our elections?

I can concede to some great points against the democrats, which I have mentioned. Why can't people here admit he's made some serious mistakes? I'm also on the same page with you all about Biden and Clinton. But it is not accurate to say that Trump has done nothing wrong or has never lied.

If you want to go a wee bit beyond fact and allow me to give you a peek under the tent, I can give you some hints as to what's coming down soon. Y'all may be calling this "Conspiracy Theory" at the moment, but you have to understand that the stuff that was discussed in the Horowitz Report was "Conspiracy Theory" just a few short months ago.

1) Obama ordered the spying on Trump
2) Obama ordered the FBI, DOJ, CIA, and NSA to do everything they could for Hillary Clinton
3) Ukraine did a whole lot of mucking about in the 2016 election.
4) Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler, and whole bunch of others were tapping into a corruption scheme where foreign aid money was allocated to governments (like Ukraine) and then these foreign governments kicked back a portion to be distributed to the lawmakers that voted the aid in.
5) Foreign espionage agencies were employed by the Obama administration to spy on and hinder the Trump campaign and his presidency.
6) Hillary and Bill have been running a pay-for-play operation out of the Clinton Foundation
7) And let's not even mention the child trafficking hoohaw that's about to blow up. That's just too far out there for poor Democrats to handle.

. . . and all of this has been coming out in drips and drabs in the media for the past few years (not Looney Tunes right wing media I'm talking NYT, WASHPO, AP, and Politico) and not been picked up in a big way. We've been seeing these articles, because we aren't sucked in by the mainstream narratives anymore and do our own digging and our own evaluations. All this is on its way into mainstream consciousness over the next 12 months, and if you're wondering why believe this drivel?

That's simple: it's coming from the same sources that predicted what was in the Horowitz Report.

So, if you're wondering how these simpleton braindead deplorables can come up with this crap, just wait. You'll see.

Yeah, right! Trump is brainwashing us. It's a cult. We're all mind-numbed robots. Just keep telling yourself that over and over and over . . .

The whole premise of your question is false..... it is based upon lies fed to you by the msm.... it's unfortunate you don't posses the critical thinking skills to see through the propaganda.

Honest discussion started with a lie. LOL

Of course Biden is walking n talking gaff machine, I want your source about Trump's internal polling you stated you had seen or someone from Trump's circle stating Biden was not his biggest threat in 2020. Geesh!

I'm not going to say either thing. All I'm saying is that I trust him a hell of a lot more than Hillary or Obama or Bill Clinton or Joe Biden. I also really, really appreciate his results so far. I'm hoping for a glorious second term for the man.

The beginning, middle, and end....I would love to watch Nadler choke on a chicken bone, with Pelosi and Schiff trying to save him 😎

......................................Who was POTUS back in 2016? And which POTUS was warned back in 2014 of foreign election interference? And which POTUS failed to address that issue and did not do a damned thing to clean it up?

The real question is and should be,,,,,,,Did Trump make grave enough mistakes to warrant impeachment and removal from office,,,,UNDER THE GUISE of the US CONSTITUTION??..................................

NO!!!!!

It'd take both of the scrawny women to get their arms around him!

The logic escapes them........

I'm sure if you dig, you'll find it. That's what we do. Go back and listen to the speeches and the pressers. Have fun. Heck, you might even learn to like the guy.

If you want proof, just look at Biden's trajectory now. Trump was talking about his imminent drop in June and July. Trump is surging against Democrats right now in swing states.

Frankly, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this whole Ukraine thing was a Trump-inspired gambit to force the Democrats to impeach him. Vinkman was a known rat with ties to Schiff's office. What better way to blow up the Dems! You gotta love it.