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Originally Posted by Raeford
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Montgomery County bailed..sucks for SWVA




We didn't fully 'bail', the Chairman[attorney] changed the wording slightly leaving out "sanctuary", the resolution passed by a 4-3 vote[3 nays from Blacksburg/VT districts].
The VCDL did recognize us and changed our status as pro 2nd on their map.


Great to hear!

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We also have a new chairwoman taking the seat in Jan.
She is/was for the "sanctuary" wording. The acting chairman had the wording changed and sanctuary removed.


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Originally Posted by Troutnut
All i can say is if the grab my guns they better be wearing gloves. The barrels will be pretty hot .

Good one


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It really does not matter. The minute the Gov. tries to use the NG, Trump will Federalize them and send the to the border w/Mexico.

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Oxford defines "terrorism" as :

the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

1. We now have a clear cut case of intimidation by state level officials against Virginian citizens.
2. We have a clear cut case of threats of violence against civilians by the threatened use of a state sponsored military force against the citizenry, which includes lethal/deadly force to achieve their political aims.
3. Unconstitutional gun grabbing activities are clearly political aims.

The Governor, his Lt. and his Attorney General, and all who are in collusion with him in this endeavor while in an elected public office/capacity are hence forth clearly identified among the people of Virginia as nothing less than "terrorists" by its definition. Need I do on to define "tyranny?"

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Originally Posted by Boarmaster123
Originally Posted by Troutnut
All i can say is if the grab my guns they better be wearing gloves. The barrels will be pretty hot .

Good one

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Originally Posted by Fireball2
They like to talk about the need to enforce and obey the law, but they ignore the Supreme Law, the Constitution, in favor of their petty little Johnny come lately gun control law.

The solution to gun confiscation in the USA will eventually be the use of blue helmets from foreign countries. Te politicians in the US have done a fantabulous job of pissing off the whole world to the point they'd relish the opportunity to kill Americans. When you see the blue helmets coming, it's war.

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Originally Posted by Fireball2
They like to talk about the need to enforce and obey the law, but they ignore the Supreme Law, the Constitution, in favor of their petty little Johnny come lately gun control law.

The solution to gun confiscation in the USA will eventually be the use of blue helmets from foreign countries. Te politicians in the US have done a fantabulous job of pissing off the whole world to the point they'd relish the opportunity to kill Americans. When you see the blue helmets coming, it's war.

This right here


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Originally Posted by Boarmaster123
Originally Posted by Fireball2
They like to talk about the need to enforce and obey the law, but they ignore the Supreme Law, the Constitution, in favor of their petty little Johnny come lately gun control law.

The solution to gun confiscation in the USA will eventually be the use of blue helmets from foreign countries. Te politicians in the US have done a fantabulous job of pissing off the whole world to the point they'd relish the opportunity to kill Americans. When you see the blue helmets coming, it's war.

This right here


I almost pity the poor sum bich that comes here from a distant land to take our freedoms. He'll get homesick REAL quick!!!

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VCDL – Virginia Citizens Defense League

Nothing to see here if you don’t understand numbers or what a scam looks like or you want to ignore the fact the owner LIVES within walking distance of WASHINGTON, D.C….not RICHMOND, VA, and has a ARLINGTON / ALEXANDRIA, VA phone number. He just SITS on $1.5MIL in CONTRIBUTIONS he has invested in PUBLIC TRADED SECURITIES since 2014, and didn’t spend massively during the 2016 Presidential election or how his salary is 36% of Total Revenue (contributions), et al.,…nothing to see. LOL. Oh, and just ignore his VCDL-PAC. Who knows who he gives those $10,000+ to.

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/541900291

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/541900291/201823199349313197/full

501(c)(4) - CONTRIBUTIONS NOT DEDUCTABLE - It’s not a 501(c)(3)

2017 990 Report

Virginia Citizens Defense League Inc
2329 Third Street (SAME ADDRESS AS THE TREASURER)
Middletown, VA 22645 (65 MILES WEST OF WASHINGTON, D.C.)
703-509-6293 (ARLINGTON / ALEXANDRIA, VA AREA CODE)

PHILIP VAN CLEAVE - Principal Officer / $63,600 SALARY
PO Box 513
Newington,VA 22122 (WALKING DISTANCE TO WASHINGTON, D.C.,
70 MILES NORTH OF RICHMOND, VA)

Dr. Jerry Coffey – FORMER Treasurer / $32,791 SALARY
2329 Third Street (65 MILES WEST OF WASHINGTON, D.C.)
Middletown, VA 22645
Took out $3,418 LOAN, he still owes VCDL.


Investments - Public Traded Securities - $1,431,641

VCDL-PAC – RECEIVED $26,972

Fees for services (non-employees):
a Management - $16,148
b Legal – $151,122
c Accounting - $14,400

Advertising and promotion – $18,474
Postage, Mailing Service – $11,327
Printing and Copying – $24,089
Supplies – $2,694
Total EXPENSES on Promoting Cause- $56,584

Total Revenue – $262,014

$56,584 / $262,014 = 21.6% OF REVENUE SPENT ON CAUSE.

Other Liabilities:
Contributions Payable to VCDL PAC – $15,778
Due to Clare Locke – $38,856

He’s about to have an awful lot of money to ADD to his “Investments - Public Traded Securities - $1,431,641” he likes to just sit on instead of spending towards his cause.

But then, living within walking distance of D.C. shouldn’t cause any RED FLAGS, should it now?…LMAO

Go empty your bank accounts for him. He is getting prime experience to replace Wayne, and he will save you from tyranny…really…he will. /s


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Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
VCDL – Virginia Citizens Defense League

Nothing to see here if you don’t understand numbers or what a scam looks like or you want to ignore the fact the owner LIVES within walking distance of WASHINGTON, D.C….not RICHMOND, VA, and has a ARLINGTON / ALEXANDRIA, VA phone number. He just SITS on $1.5MIL in CONTRIBUTIONS he has invested in PUBLIC TRADED SECURITIES since 2014, and didn’t spend massively during the 2016 Presidential election or how his salary is 36% of Total Revenue (contributions), et al.,…nothing to see. LOL. Oh, and just ignore his VCDL-PAC. Who knows who he gives those $10,000+ to.

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/541900291

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/541900291/201823199349313197/full

501(c)(4) - CONTRIBUTIONS NOT DEDUCTABLE - It’s not a 501(c)(3)

2017 990 Report

Virginia Citizens Defense League Inc
2329 Third Street (SAME ADDRESS AS THE TREASURER)
Middletown, VA 22645 (65 MILES WEST OF WASHINGTON, D.C.)
703-509-6293 (ARLINGTON / ALEXANDRIA, VA AREA CODE)

PHILIP VAN CLEAVE - Principal Officer / $63,600 SALARY
PO Box 513
Newington,VA 22122 (WALKING DISTANCE TO WASHINGTON, D.C.,
70 MILES NORTH OF RICHMOND, VA)

Dr. Jerry Coffey – FORMER Treasurer / $32,791 SALARY
2329 Third Street (65 MILES WEST OF WASHINGTON, D.C.)
Middletown, VA 22645
Took out $3,418 LOAN, he still owes VCDL.


Investments - Public Traded Securities - $1,431,641

VCDL-PAC – RECEIVED $26,972

Fees for services (non-employees):
a Management - $16,148
b Legal – $151,122
c Accounting - $14,400

Advertising and promotion – $18,474
Postage, Mailing Service – $11,327
Printing and Copying – $24,089
Supplies – $2,694
Total EXPENSES on Promoting Cause- $56,584

Total Revenue – $262,014

$56,584 / $262,014 = 21.6% OF REVENUE SPENT ON CAUSE.

Other Liabilities:
Contributions Payable to VCDL PAC – $15,778
Due to Clare Locke – $38,856

He’s about to have an awful lot of money to ADD to his “Investments - Public Traded Securities - $1,431,641” he likes to just sit on instead of spending towards his cause.

But then, living within walking distance of D.C. shouldn’t cause any RED FLAGS, should it now?…LMAO

Go empty your bank accounts for him. He is getting prime experience to replace Wayne, and he will save you from tyranny…really…he will. /s



That is a [bleep] ton of conjecture based on a P.O. box address.

Virginia has been red or purple for decades and extremely 2A friendly... money spent by VCDL was for Virginia matters I suspect... the rest saved for a blue wave rainy day... That is here now. See the bills that are coming... https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+lst+ALL

VCDL looked to the NRA regarding National matters... I am guessing... not sure, I can't speak for them. VCDL is a small grassroots organization.

I personally don't consider $32,791 and $63,600 salaries to be excessive (I didn't even know they took a salary)... there are hundreds of volunteers.


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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Originally Posted by AkMtnHntr
Virginians aren't taking this lying down, good for you Tazewell county, now get the rest of Va to join you.

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Amid dozens of Virginia counties declaring themselves Second Amendment sanctuaries in case the state enacts strict gun-control measures next year, Tazewell County joined in — and took a big extra step.
In addition to passing a resolution declaring the county a Second Amendment sanctuary, the Tazewell County Board of Supervisors on Dec. 3 also passed a resolution underscoring the right to a well-funded and regulated militia as described in the U.S. Constitution and the commonwealth's constitution, WJHL-TV reported.


Va Militia


Every county in this country should have a well funded strong well trained Militia but the media has brainwashed people to NOT get involved with a bunch of lowlifes .


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The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Amusing that the same tinfoil hat crowd that believes UN troops are here or on the way that are all over the internet. have invaded the Fire.
Of course none of them can produce any documented evidence of where these secret UN bases are, who the troops are of where they came from. But paranoia is fun !

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Originally Posted by 3040HighWall
Amusing that the same tinfoil hat crowd that believes UN troops are here or on the way that are all over the internet. have invaded the Fire.
Of course none of them can produce any documented evidence of where these secret UN bases are, who the troops are of where they came from. But paranoia is fun !




Amusing stuff from your aunt's basement.


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The best proof is the video of UN Peacekeepers claimed to be filmed in Colorado but all the roads were dirt and all the populace black.

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Originally Posted by 3040HighWall
The best proof is the video of UN Peacekeepers claimed to be filmed in Colorado but all the roads were dirt and all the populace black.


Left-wingers like you must be worried.... You're the one trolling a forum. Coonman pay you directly or is it Bloomberg, Soros, etc.?



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Anybody interested, Highland Co. BOS meets Jan. 8, 2020
At 6:00pm at the highschool gymnasium. Can't imagine it will be a problem but turnout numbers can only benefit all Virginians.



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We had quite a crowd in Stafford last night. Standing room only in the parking lot. It was stated that the Sheriff, who was present, estimated the crowd at 1500 plus those that made it inside. 50 people spoke and in the end the BOS unanimously passed the resolution. Some will say that it was strictly symbolic but you can bet if the motion was unanimously opposed, they'd be screaming that the people had spoken! I see a rode trip to Richmond in my fufure.


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I see Fosteology is right on 3040whatshisface's azz. TFF.

Hey Fost. is that the Root-ster's new clone?


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Originally Posted by Bobmar
We had quite a crowd in Stafford last night. Standing room only in the parking lot. It was stated that the Sheriff, who was present, estimated the crowd at 1500 plus those that made it inside. 50 people spoke and in the end the BOS unanimously passed the resolution. Some will say that it was strictly symbolic but you can bet if the motion was unanimously opposed, they'd be screaming that the people had spoken! I see a rode trip to Richmond in my fufure.


I saw it reported 3,000 in Stafford last night!
We need to make a hell of a show in Richmond on Jan. 20th.



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