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Looking at The Toyo Open Country A/T II - or the Cooper DISCOVERER AT3 XLT

Just for everyday Ranch use and Highway mileage.

I’ve always run the MICHELIN LTX A2, But several folks are recommending the Toyo’s and some are recommending the Cooper’s.

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Not familiar, but I’ve had good luck with the Michelin’s you mention.


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Both are good 10 ply all terrain tires, I have a set of each on my 3/4 ton work pickups now. I drive a lot of rock roads, both are chipped some but have done as well or better than anything else I’ve tried.

I’ll also say that the only tires I’ve ever gotten 50k + miles out of on my dodge 2500 Diesel were Michelins. They are more expensive but they last very well in my experience. The ones I had were more of a highway tread than true ATs though

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Jap vs USA?


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Yep. I’ve had good luck with not getting flats with the Michelin’s. But they absolutely suck in the mud. And they hydroplane way too much to suit me.

Want to hear from the folks that run the Toto’s and Cooper’s.


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That’s why I moved away from the Michelins after 2 sets as well.

When I say I’m running a set of each of the cooper and Toyo you mentioned, I mean those exact tires. What do you want to know specifically?

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Check out Nitto Terra Grapplers. I got 55k on my F350 Diesel and they still have another 5-7k left. Relatively Quiet. Great on wet pavement. Had them on my Tacoma many years ago and had the same experience.

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Been running falken wildpeakes myself. Might be worth a look.

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On my pickup the coopers are out lasting toyo! Heavy front wear from the diesel weight! Toyo seemed to have harder rubber, and wore faster! Just my opinion. Both are good tires.

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I just bought another set of AT3's for my f150.

Pretty good all around other than super deep snow.


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Toyo is famous for surviving I-10 in Arizona in the summer. 80mph, 140 deg surface temp. I run 'em on my work pickup, 2nd set, no complaints, last set got 38,000 on 20% dirt and 80% pavement. Almost all mountain driving. I mounted both sets myself, noticed the sidewalls were pretty stiff compared some other load range E tires I have used.


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Originally Posted by hunter4623
Check out Nitto Terra Grapplers. I got 55k on my F350 Diesel and they still have another 5-7k left. Relatively Quiet. Great on wet pavement. Had them on my Tacoma many years ago and had the same experience.


I have a set of those on my Chevy 1500 4x4.. I’m also at 55k with a little life left. But I only got 35k out of those of my dodge 2500. Seemed to have gotten chewed up and worn down by rocky roads pretty quickly. I think they do fine when majority of miles are on paved roads

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My mileage was 95% highway

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Michelin makes the best tires, period. However, as you stated, they're not the best for off road or in the mud. If longevity is what you're looking for, besides the LTX, check out the Nitto Dura Grapplers. Toyo also makes a pretty decent truck tire. The AT II is a good choice. If you're looking for something a bit more aggressive, both Nitto and Toyo have some great choices available. Although Cooper tires are popular, they would be towards the bottom of my list - I believe Michelin, Toyo & Nitto makes better tires.

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Michelin Defender’s.


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Had a set of cooper atp’s on a 2500 diesel. They were nice tires but I had a belt failure on one and a few flats. Other than that I was happy with them. The only other tires I have ever had a belt failure was a set of no-name sport kings. I switched to the bfg ko2 (Michelin is the parent company if it makes a difference). The toyos seem to get good reviews but they didn’t really seem as aggressive as I wanted. We will see how these bfg’s do.

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Cooper discoverer atv3 are something I've gone to in the last 10ish years on Tahoe's to 1500's. they wear out great with proper rotation, and you can find them for decent money if you look hard enough

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Just changed out a set of Michelins for another set of Michelins. Got 80,000 miles out of the first set, which was a replacement for the factory Bridgestones which had a horrible ride when I bought the truck with 20000 miles on it. Michelins have been great in Wisconsin snow.


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Cooper is way better than the toyo’s AT’s.


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