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Originally Posted by rifletom
Some valid points Seafire. But, who in your state hired the pony tails?


You're not getting it. It's not the state that does the hiring. It's a federal agency - the National Park Service.


To be fair though, I know personally a grand total of one National Parks ranger (also a socialist suffering from TDS) - and he was from New York.


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Some valid points Seafire. But, who in your state hired the pony tails?


You're not getting it. It's not the state that does the hiring. It's a federal agency - the National Park Service.


To be fair though, I know personally a grand total of one National Parks ranger (also a socialist suffering from TDS) - and he was from New York.


I get it. So there are no Federal offices, no Federal management types in your state that oversees any of the hiring? Is that you're saying?

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That happened because of acid rain and the hole in the ozone. But the government outlawed R12 and it's fixed now.


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Some valid points Seafire. But, who in your state hired the pony tails?


You're not getting it. It's not the state that does the hiring. It's a federal agency - the National Park Service.


To be fair though, I know personally a grand total of one National Parks ranger (also a socialist suffering from TDS) - and he was from New York.


I get it. So there are no Federal offices, no Federal management types in your state that oversees any of the hiring? Is that you're saying?


What I'm saying is that the federal facilities (national parks, national refuges, national monuments, etc) are staffed by people from all over, and possibly some of those people do the hiring. But not locals, unless you count someone who moved here within the last five years as a local. You can't blame the respective states for whatever goes on with the staffing and running of national parks. Additionally, although I'm sure it happens, I have never known a local who got one of those jobs in his or her own home state. In the facility up the road from me, I have dealt with the people there over the years, and not one of them has ever been from here. Mostly from the big cities.


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Originally Posted by FreeMe
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Some valid points Seafire. But, who in your state hired the pony tails?


You're not getting it. It's not the state that does the hiring. It's a federal agency - the National Park Service.


To be fair though, I know personally a grand total of one National Parks ranger (also a socialist suffering from TDS) - and he was from New York.


I get it. So there are no Federal offices, no Federal management types in your state that oversees any of the hiring? Is that you're saying?


What I'm saying is that the federal facilities (national parks, national refuges, national monuments, etc) are staffed by people from all over, and possibly some of those people do the hiring. But not locals, unless you count someone who moved here within the last five years as a local. You can't blame the respective states for whatever goes on with the staffing and running of national parks. Additionally, although I'm sure it happens, I have never known a local who got one of those jobs in his or her own home state. In the facility up the road from me, I have dealt with the people there over the years, and not one of them has ever been from here. Mostly from the big cities.




Besides it's a state sport to make fun of Californians,


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Interesting.

Life has had me in State, Federal, Military, and the Private sectors.

Last summer I met the Bison Range (Montana) manager as she was in the field overseeing a controlled burn. She was a local lady, like just down the road, but had put in about 20 years in places like Iowa, Alaska, and Virginia, and was finally able to lateral into her back yard.

Our local BLM and USFS district offices have several homebodies on staff. Most though had to put in time in first hire Hell Holes and then transfer home as openings occurred.

I initially schooled in forestry and wildlife management graduating in 1974. At that time it seemed near all USF&W staff came through Wisconsin or Michigan schools. Some biased hires then, but they appear to be a more diverse group now.

Federal hiring for what one might consider professional positions is presently a long and tedious process with positions advertised nation wide. Support staff jobs are similarly advertised, but typically filled by someone in the neighborhood. Folks can't afford to displace families and households for those lower paying positions.

Being old, I have seen a gradual evolution in these landscape management agencies. Early on, most personnel came from our still familiar hook and bullet clubs. In the 70's more environmentally minded folks started filtering in. Of course, society in general has shifted as well with one seldom encountering a farmer when attending a 49ers game.

I'm originally a Tenn/Va boy and ASAP I came west landing in Oregon. Most of us here, if trapped in New York, would sacrifice the left one to get to the Rockies or somewhere west of there.

Shifting to the climate change argument: I think we're experiencing such with some warming. Is change anything new? No, it's been going on forever. Is it man caused? I don't know. Given geologic time frames, man has only been here for a few seconds, and he most certainly did not precipitate the earlier events.

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Rifletom: Glacier Park is a NATIONAL Park!
Montana has next to nothing to do with its policies and maintenance!
kalifornicationkopian idiocy heavily influences (sadly!), many of our agencies including (again sadly!) our National Park Service.
I am happy that the idiotic libtards and kalifornicationkopian influenced administrators that run Glacier NATIONAL Park had to suck face and remove these ridiculous signs.
Sadly they replaced the obviously erroneous signs with nearly as idiotic and kalifornicationkopian type signs!
And we pay these cretins.
Sheesh.
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P.S.: Rifletom do you have ANY idea just where in our country the headquarters of the enviro-nazis Sierra Club is at?
I'll give you one guess.
kalifornicationkopia! oakland to be exact!
And you wish to deflect responsibility for these idiots - sheesh.

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Originally Posted by Dave_Skinner
I live near the park and many parkies are utter morons. Flat hats and flatter brainwaves.



You got that schitt right. A little community just south of my up north property is the base for the parkie squills that operate in Denali. I can't stand any of them.


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Originally Posted by FreeMe
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Some valid points Seafire. But, who in your state hired the pony tails?


You're not getting it. It's not the state that does the hiring. It's a federal agency - the National Park Service.


To be fair though, I know personally a grand total of one National Parks ranger (also a socialist suffering from TDS) - and he was from New York.


I get it. So there are no Federal offices, no Federal management types in your state that oversees any of the hiring? Is that you're saying?


What I'm saying is that the federal facilities (national parks, national refuges, national monuments, etc) are staffed by people from all over, and possibly some of those people do the hiring. But not locals, unless you count someone who moved here within the last five years as a local. You can't blame the respective states for whatever goes on with the staffing and running of national parks. Additionally, although I'm sure it happens, I have never known a local who got one of those jobs in his or her own home state. In the facility up the road from me, I have dealt with the people there over the years, and not one of them has ever been from here. Mostly from the big cities.


Fair enough answer. Thanks FreeMe.
VarmintGuy, calm down. We both can spew a bit now and then, right?

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Of course it's CAs fault signs in MT are being changed ...everybody knows that.

But the signs are not being changed as they have spent all their money on climate change frivolity. Fools abound.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

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RickyD: Source "Montana Talks" (local radio show in Montana that covers the state on many independent radio stations), date = today.
The radio show host on this live program stated today that indeed the signs are being removed "but" budget constraints have made it impossible to get them all done by now.
This apparently began in late July of this year - and when I was there in and over Glacier Park last September I did not see anymore of the "original" green leaning signs nor did I see any of the replacements.
When I get through there next summer IISA (If I'm Still Alive!) I'll let you know their status.
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Looks good to me Goosey. Ice isn't very good sheep and goat habitat. Or for fish, or whales. Or for any other useful living thing. Polar ice north a possible exception.

Critters do like those glaciers and snowfields during bug season and hot weather tho. Also useful as water reserves and drinks. Scenic of course.

And that's about it.

An example of one isn't exactly useful, usually. There are glaciers that are growing.

It's called climate change, which is a mere 4 billion years old. Some things benefit, some don't. Adapt or die. The Sahara used to be "Mediterranean", supporting most of the animals found elsewhere in Africa. Now it doesn't. Man had nothing to do with that climate change, or not much (overgrazing now may be extending the desert there). Homo sapien has been around 70,000 years or so.

I'm sure earth will abide after we are gone- and who is to say what is "good", or "bad">

Get over it, and yourself.

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Liberal fear mongering to introduce more laws, collect more taxes, and take more regulatory control.

They use it for climate change, gun control, education, health care..

It seems to be the only play in their book.


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J23: Good points on the "fear mongering" done by liberals for the last 40+ years now.
Sad commentary on them.
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