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Jordan,
Out of the scopes you mention, which one offers the best reticle for quick and close shots? When I look at say the MOAR by NF , my eyes are not drawn to the center of the reticle like I’m used to with a simple duplex or no. 4 .
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As said by others, the SS 3-15x would meet your criteria, as would the Bushnell LRHS/LRTS 4.5-18x. These....proven time and again. Or shop for a used NF SHV. Those SHV scopes really impress me. Appear to be every bit as good as my NXS's.
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As said by others, the SS 3-15x would meet your criteria, as would the Bushnell LRHS/LRTS 4.5-18x. These....proven time and again. Or shop for a used NF SHV. Open Box 3-10x42 forceplex (duplex) SVH from Doug @ $699 if he has any left........... only $699.99 shipped I like mine. BTW, that's the best price I've seen, paid a bit more for mine, but still well below retail. You'll need a rail for LA. Med LW Talley's worked well on this SA Shilen Creed Mtn Rifle McWoody Simple but tough; a hunting scope. This one with Forceplex, which I like. DF ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/WZr0kTb.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/dQXlRcZ.jpg)
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If you are wise, you will listen to Jordan's advice. He won't steer you wrong. Put Cummins cowboy on ignore, his advice will steer you wrong. I have had the ss 3x15 since they came out, and I shoot it alot. Mine has been rock solid in adjustment, and return to zero. The 3x9 is a very good scope too. The turrets are a little smaller and stiffer than the 3x15, and I like them better. You can't go wrong with either one. The mil quad reticle is great and would be easy r for you to understand and use as a beginner. Not too complex. If not these 2 scopes then one of the others that Jordan mentioned. Pick the one you like best, drop the hammer, and get it done. And then shoot. Alot. PS. Yes you do want a FFP scope. No exceptions.
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The 3-10 SHV is a solid scope. I have had my share of them and if they were to put one out with a MIL reticle I may own them again.
But I think y’all are missing that he asked for more Xs. Granted I’ve shot a bunch out past the OPs 700 yard mark with the SWFA 10x and others. The ForcePlex reticle isn’t doing anybody many favors when you go to holding wind either...
Like Atse said. The MilQuad reticle is a peach to learn esp for kids. When I say hold a full diamond and half or hold 2/10s shy of a diamond, there is no confusion or “counting lines”. Very intuitive.
The MilQuad “brackets” very easy in low light too.
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What brand is the SS again?
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As said by others, the SS 3-15x would meet your criteria, as would the Bushnell LRHS/LRTS 4.5-18x. These....proven time and again. Or shop for a used NF SHV. Open Box 3-10x42 forceplex (duplex) SVH from Doug @ $699 if he has any left........... only $699.99 shipped I like mine. BTW, that's the best price I've seen, paid a bit more for mine, but still well below retail. You'll need a rail for LA. Med LW Talley's worked well on this SA Shilen Creed Mtn Rifle McWoody Simple but tough; a hunting scope. This one with Forceplex, which I like. DF Thats a beauty of a rifle!
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SWFA. They make em, and sell em. No middle man. That is why they don't cost more than they do.
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SWFA. They make em, and sell em. No middle man. That is why they don't cost more than they do. I was interested in that scope.. I just don't know about that reticle.
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SWFA. They make em, and sell em. No middle man. That is why they don't cost more than they do. I was interested in that scope.. I just don't know about that reticle. It's actually a pretty simple reticle, and it grows on ya. It works great for hold over if you don't have time to dial, and it allows for precise wind holds,something you will have to use it you are shooting very far.
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Those Bushnells sound nice.. but they're like $1400?
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Jordan,
Out of the scopes you mention, which one offers the best reticle for quick and close shots? When I look at say the MOAR by NF , my eyes are not drawn to the center of the reticle like I’m used to with a simple duplex or no. 4 .
My preference is the G2H in the LRHS, but the MQ in the SWFA SS is very good as well.
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Those Bushnells sound nice.. but they're like $1400? It's pretty easy to find them for less than that.
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Don's pretty good at leading a guy to water... 
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I keep skarfing them up, before they're gone.... 2 more this week.
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That particular scope leans more to the close-range hunting side of the line, rather than hunting and shooting at distance. It’ll track, but the reticle design and the fact that it is SFP aren’t ideal for shooting beyond PBR.
Depends if you want a scope for point-and-shoot hunting that is capable of hitting at distance, or a LR scope that is capable of being used successfully for hunting. Ideally? Lol I want a scope with a ffp with a plex reticle that will be close to accurate at 100, 200, 300-500yds..for hunting. So far the only thing I could get close with is the Burris reticle and using a Nosler 143 gr, with a 150yd zero it was almost dead nuts at the 200, 300, 400 and 500 marks.. granted that was a benchmarked velocity and not necessarily what my 22" barrel will be pushing.. But I also want to be able to dial the turrets for tighter accuracy to ring steel out to 700 at the range and somenfriendly competition with a few buddies. The LRHS/LRTS, SS 3-15x, or NF F1 would be your huckleberry. My advise is to forget about a BDC reticle and get a scope with matching reticle and turret increments, whether MRAD or MOA (MRAD is more intuitive to learn and use), learn your load's trajectory and behaviour in the wind, and use the increments in the reticle to compensate for wind drift and dial for elevation. You can also easily hold over for elevation using the reticle. The LRHS 3-12x and SS 3-9x are my personal preferences for the purposes you describe. Look, I'm no super long range guy like Jordan and some of these other dudes are. My simple advice is to either go with a BDC reticle, and spurn turrets, or go with a scope like the LRHS or the SWFA 3-9.and dial and/or use the subtensions in their reticle for windage and elevation. If you have the disposable money, get the LRHS/LRTS. If you can't or don't wanna spend that much right now, then get the SWFA 3-9. If you can wait until around tax deadline, I think that is about when SWFA runs a sale, which you save you even more. But know this: there are a lot of people, people with LOTS of experience and knowledge, on this forum that use SWFA's, aka superchickens, and are hardcore fans. Mebbeso the easy thing to do, to end analysis paralysis, to give you a starting point, and most importantly, start to gain you some experience using this type of scope, is just to go ahead and buy the dang SWFA 3-9x and be done with it!!!  JUST DO IT!!!
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Im not pulling the trigger for a couple weeks lol. I still have 2 weeks to observe...
Leupolds CDS seems so much simpler.. too bad they dont work.
I hunt the same area that I target shoot. It's be really easy to findnthe round my gun shoots best and then, custom yardage turret.. bam.. dial the distance.
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This mildot stuff looks really confusing coming from moa
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