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Well, far be it from me to be able to figure all things out, or HIS ways. I expect HE wants us to do as HE says, depending on and trusting HIM, rather than to lean on our own understanding.

Amen.

You should be man enough and step up to preach at your church. What is there 25-30 in your attendance.

Shouldn’t you be at least a deacon or elder there? A long married man to one woman, a wise, senior man of your community, a planter, a pillar?

You evangelize enough on here. Do you at least teach a Sunday School class? Ever fill in on a Wednesday night for you pastor away on a trip?

Do you participate in you choir?


What exactly do you do at your church?

Just asking

I know you won’t answer, being B-type and all.

Ones love for God is *chiefly* demonstrated, illustrated, and authenticated by loving others (others whom God loves). Period. When you open the New Testament and ask the question, "What does it look like to be a follower of Jesus...?", it's crystal clear. If you don't 'get' anything else, here's the thing that should describe you, here's the thing that should characterize you 'more than anything else', here's what He said to His closest followers before he left the earth - "By *this* everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." It's not the gold cross hangin' on your neck, it's not goin' to church on Sunday morning, it's not your church bumper sticker, it's not what kind of family you were born into or raised in, it's not that you were baptized, it's not the ‘way’ you worship, and it's certainly not policing other people's behavior. "By *this* everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." The defining characteristic of a follower of Jesus is how they treat other people.

Understanding only comes from the Holy Spirit, few realizes this though it's Christ's life lesson. Christ didn't write a bible or start a church, man did... live in man or live in Christ, whatever...

Kent

I'd just think some people blind, even deaf, and dumb have been saved by Grace.

This was on the wall in the church where my cousin's funeral was held. I thought it was worth a picture.

Hey lovey man, I addressed a post to you.

I admit to loving the old hymns, my mother would practice them on the piano at home, she was a substitute if the regular pianist wasn't there.

I listen to old timey bluegrass gospel, my wife shakes her head so I mostly do it when alone, which is often.

Kent

Why would there be? Preaching the gospel of Dr. Feelgood isn't go8ing to compel anyone to waste their time. The fact that most main line religions (including Catholic) are short of proper ministers is a failure to properly teach and lead.

Lest not ye whicheth canst be thy own self, be that whatst shalt noweth nor forever beith false. IMO

That is your church, not mine.
Mine has the real presence of God, every bit as much as the Arch of the Covenant of old.

We don't pay well.

Paul said that ‘we’ died to the law, meaning that its ability to identify us as sinners and demand our life in payment for our sins was fulfilled through the sacrifice of Jesus. Paul also said that ‘we’ were “released from the Law.” :
“But now we have been released from the law because we have died to that in which we were held so that we might serve in *newness* of the spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter" (Romans 7:6)
For fully devoted followers of Jesus, the law can no longer identify and punish us as sinners. Our obedience now is fulfilled through the *new* life in the Spirit of God. That’s what Paul meant when he wrote in Romans the following :
"For sin shall not rule over you because you are NOT under law, but under grace." (Romans 6:14)
Jesus ‘fulfilled’ it (the law), now it’s over and done with. Jesus also said that ALL of the Law and the Prophets (that’s the ‘entire’ Old Testament) hangs on loving God and loving others. Period.

Like I said earlier, go back and read the *entire* Bible and get back with us. Jesus went to church, Jesus proclaimed he was building a church, Jesus said that not one tittle of the old law was being eliminated.

If it was as you say, why would Jesus have bothered to breath the 1st Great Commandment? He could have just summarized it by saying the 2nd.

Read the whole thing, try again.

If it burnt down and you moved across the street?

Christ and the HS are about the individual, that is the presence of God.

Kent

Wabi, not saying I always follow HIS instruction.

Tyrone, we have been misled by Satans efforts to get between us and our Creator ages ago.

I think we are short of proper ministers as part of the Curse HE said HE would visit on us for disobeying HIS instruction to HIS people as HE informed us in Deut and Ezra for disobeying and bringing in heathen unbelievers into the land of milk and honey HE gave us and allowing them to intermingle with our sons and daughters.

Do you eat bacon and lobster?

Yes, the strict letter of the law can't ID us as sinners, but if we don't follow it because of what is in our heart, then yes, we condemn ourselves. God can read our heart. He knows why/why not we follow His laws.



Bottom line - We should follow God's laws out of love for Him.

Here you are again, quoting scripture like Satan.

But I give you the benefit of the doubt. Here is a little primer on the various laws. https://padreperegrino.org/2018/04/...YK-Ud0yGsvbmEPqSBZ_3F6lr5MZJdM1bzxSswLG0

I think there is a lot to be said for that.
At Fatima, Our Lady ID'ed it as the errors of Russia.