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The Good Colonel,for one.....................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Big Stick; I didn't realize that there were "droves" of rifles out there that would hold 1/8 MOA at 800 yds.
I have learned somthing, could you suggest a source for such equipment?.
Thanks!
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Last I checked,1/8MOA was 1"-ish at 800yds and that'd be what I'd term a dainty soup can and I never penned that designator.
Now...you've learned a little more..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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A 1/4 MOA would leave no room at all for error. Have it your way, but please supply a list of sources for the "droves" capable of such shooting. Maybe we will all learn somthing.
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I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Who can't shoot that well,besides you?..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Big Stick; I didn't realize that there were "droves" of rifles out there that would hold 1/8 MOA at 800 yds.
I have learned somthing, could you suggest a source for such equipment?.
Thanks! Never heard of a 1" group at 800 yards, much less "droves" of people that could shoot that well, or any rifles that can routinely shoot that well.
Not many problems you can't fix
With a 1911 and a 30-06
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As far as I am concerned Ross's ability with, and knowledge of, firearms is not in question. However, as much as Ross likes to tout his ability in all fields, I have never seen any evidence offered for his self proclaimed "ten years" of professionally guiding in Africa.
As Ken pointed out, I just heard a report on the news that there are now over nine million persons claiming to be Vietnam vetrans yet the US military only has record of three million.
Wheather Ross actually guided in Africa for as long as he claims does not diminish his ability as a writer or his knowledge of firearms. As a guide I simply am curious. It wouldn't matter if I were a farmer or brain surgeon, if someone claimed to be in the same occupation I would certainly ask a few questions to establish some sort of rapport. Just saw this info on the Professional Hunters Association of Zambia website and thought it applied to this thread, from admittedly way way back, but answered some questions nevertheless. https://phazambia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Black-Lechwe.pdf
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I sat in Ross's cabin and he told me how he became an African P.H. and I believe him.
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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I will have to catch up on this .. He wrote one of the three best articles I have read in my entire life.. I have read thousands...
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Damn ol Phil Shoemaker kind of a dick on this thread...
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Sad thing is, most don't know who your talking about...😁🖕😎
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Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
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My family and myself were good friends with Cotton Gordon, Ross hunted with him in Zambia. Cotton was sometimes understated when talking about other Ph's and said Ross was damn handy with a rifle. I did enjoy his writing.
The CGS behind Ross's name in the list posted above is Cotton Gordon Safaris.
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Sad thing is, most don't know who your talking about...😁🖕😎 Kind of a trip down memory lane.. OP started in 2004, stopped in 2006 and 12 yrs, 3 months later it’s revived.. just surprised to see ol Shoemaker being salty.. lol
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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I said from the beginning that I admired Ross's knowledge, writing skills and abilities as a shooter.
I also know he spent time on safaris in Zambia over number of years and at the time getting someone to sign you off for PH license was possible.
But flying over and doing a few short safaris, usually guiding friends, over a period of X number of years , does not mean you have X number years of African experience as a PH as was claimed in some articles.
And while he could be charming for an admiring fan, he could also be less than.
There are very sound reasons why he never seemed to stay with any publication for very long.
From a readers standpoint Ross was one of the best .
Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master Guide, Alaska Hunter Ed Instructor FAA Master pilot www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.comAnyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship.
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Ross was a man of strong conviction......
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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And opinions
Which is one reason people liked him
Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master Guide, Alaska Hunter Ed Instructor FAA Master pilot www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.comAnyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship.
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And opinions
Which is one reason people liked him Yep Phil, those two things are a double edged sword.
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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And opinions
Which is one reason people liked him Yep Phil, those two things are a double edged sword. Plus coupled with his shooting and writing skills he became one of the best at the writing game. Unfortunately he didn't play well with others.
Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master Guide, Alaska Hunter Ed Instructor FAA Master pilot www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.comAnyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship.
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Ross is one of the best writers out there. He has a wide firearms interest and knowledge. Great on wildcat cartridges. I bought his 6mm Mach IV rifle from a gun house years ago. It was written up in G&A magazine. The gun house did not have the reloading dies with the rifle and I tracked Ross down in I think it was to Oregon. I called him and we talked awhile. He sent the reloading dies to me free of charge.
I have a complete collection of Rifle and Handloader magazines. Many of the current writers for gun magazines do not even come close to the great writers of years ago, and Ross is included in the great writers list.
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