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How's a fella 'sposed to justify buying/loading ammo on a frequent basis with 3 shot groups, hey?

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Here's the Ballistic Tape on the Conquest elevation turret. It's for the 140 SGK HPBT load with Varget that I'm using.

It came as a flat tape with adhestive backing. It had been precisely measured for this turret, fit perfectly. I went with a 100 yd zero, keep it set on 175 for point blank shooting to 200 yds. I start twisting at 250.

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Dumb question.. I see all of these groups.. sure theyre tight.. but why arenthey never in the bullseye?


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Originally Posted by Musicianized
Dumb question.. I see all of these groups.. sure theyre tight.. but why arenthey never in the bullseye?


Because moving a group onto the bullseye is an easy matter of twisting the turrets, most people don't worry about that until load development is complete. If the group is to the right 1" at 100yds, just dial 4 clicks to the left, etc. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. Not to mention, each time you try a new bullet/powder combination, the gun is going to print into a different spot, so why chase the group around the target until you are done? The hard part is getting a rifle/load to group well, so that is what people tend to focus on. At least that's how I see it.

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Originally Posted by Musicianized
Dumb question.. I see all of these groups.. sure theyre tight.. but why arenthey never in the bullseye?


I have several 308 rifles that shoot 1/2 to 3/4 moa five shot groups. Suppose I'm testing a new bullet and I'm using a 1/4" dot as point of aim on a 100 yard target. Plopping a 1/2" group right on the bullseye would be counterproductive, the group enlarging and obscuring the point of aim.

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Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by Musicianized
Dumb question.. I see all of these groups.. sure theyre tight.. but why arenthey never in the bullseye?


I have several 308 rifles that shoot 1/2 to 3/4 moa five shot groups. Suppose I'm testing a new bullet and I'm using a 1/4" dot as point of aim on a 100 yard target. Plopping a 1/2" group right on the bullseye would be counterproductive, the group enlarging and obscuring the point of aim.


Yeah, thats why my groups are always so lousy. Most are of the 10 shot variety though:
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Hitting the bullseye is just too damn hard to do for most guys. Besides, it doesn't teach you anything anyway... I much prefer my 3 shot groups, because they are smaller. I could care less where they hit on the target!!!!!



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Yep that makes sense


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