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At least that is what the 10th or so translation said anyhow.

I wonder now if a good reason not to attend church is all the gun packing folks who don't practice. Isn't there an old saying "practice what you preach" ?


mike r

Untrained old guy with a handgun in a room full of people. What could go wrong?

Bad guy with an AR walks into a room full of unarmed sheep. What could go wrong?

Just use your wit against the bad guy.

LOL ........ There's a thread starter right there.

The untrained old guy shoots you in the head while trying to unholster his 9.

Sounds like things are already going wrong!


ya!

GWB

You are just as dead if the democrat kills you, and your odds are better with the armed old guy than without him.

How many innocents were killed by armed parishioners in Sutterland Springs?

At our church we pat you down. If you don’t have a handgun we loan you one for services duration!

I’l take my chances. I don’t want to be sitting next to a guy that thinks he’s John MacClane just because he has a 9.

I dont know if you guys mentioning an AR are serious or not but, my Dad (USMC 'Nam Combat Vet and very proficient shooter) was just tasked with setting up a security team at the church him and mom attend. Part of the set up is an AR with a high end EOtech optic. This rifle is stored in a locked closet with a metal door and frame in the unused locked choir loft. Dad or the one other guy (who is a former member of the 75th Ranger Regiment) who are designated to use it literally sit in the loft right next to the open closet during any service. They have a complete field of fire to anywhere in the sanctuary from this position. One armed usher is asked to sit along the center aisle in the back pew and the other known armed guys are asked to stagger themselves throughout the sanctuary. These members shoot at least with bi weekly at a members farm, several like dad are retired and shoot much more often then that.

The armed members are great but we started out by reviewing the physical security of the building. Some changes that were made include that all doors except the main entrance are locked at all times. The main entrance glass outside doors are locked when service begins and an usher(concealed carrying) must let in any late comers. The inner vestibule doors leading to the sanctuary are also locked during services with another usher opening those for people.

Who the fugg is John MacClane?

Yep, you are as dumb as I thought you were.

^^^^

If the OP thought he was John McClane he wouldn't be asking questions.

Mans probably been handling guns longer than you've been alive. He's considering expanding his horizons and is drawing upon a community of experts at his disposal. I trust he'll make the best decisions for his circumstances better than you could make them for him.

No.

You are the one showing your ignorance.
Jim just called you out and you were too ignorant to catch it.

This is an important subject for me. I attend a church that has about 500 people for the two Sunday services. I am there early with a dozen volunteers and some staff. I am a greeter inside the foyer, and there are door people. I am usually the last person in for the first service and I leave after everyone is done coming into church for the second service. I am quite sure if there is a shooter coming in there they will come in late when all the people are there. That likely means I will see them first and have to respond. I have asked a pastor on the team that was a Milwaukee cop for 20 yrs. what is our security plan in case there is trouble . I told him I still dont carry , ,, yet. We did have a security guy that volunteered but he went back to Texas . Now, we have noone. I know we have people that carry, I know who some of them are. I also am sure many others carry, however , a shooter will see me first. As for me , I will have to stop him and likely be shot cause I am in the foyer. I am contemplating to start shooting my Ruger SR9E much more this spring and just start carrying. I dont like the idea of carrying . We are in a very low crime area and police are in our parking lot quite a bit. A young guy on the force comes to our church, , and stops in while on patrol sometimes but I think he has the hots for a few young women there more than anything. I am a bit upset that there is no security plan what so ever , not even a bottom to lock the doors and a bell to hide the kids and lock all doors.

Yippee-Ki-Yay Mudder-Fugger

Bruce Willis in Die Hard

Even someone as dumb as Jim could figure it out.