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I try to avoid going to church, other then community meetings, I just don't like doing business with that sort of business. The only organization that I've found more divisive then religion is politics. I would derive no comfort knowing that some of those people sitting in the pews had fire arms, with ammo!

I think many missed the point of church.
It has nothing to do with a building or how many people attend.
It has everything to do with the teaching of Christ and His ministry.
But in modern days people tend to view church as someplace to go to make themselves feel better while the whole time overlooking the real reason.
So because your church has few members and old at that and no new prospects tells me that they are not feeding people what people really need = The Gospel.
These “pastors” get up there and throw a 20 minute spiel about how to be good and maybe say something about politics in the world today while totally blowing past the duty they are supposed to be doing.
It’s no wonder we have women pastors.....who else is there?
Paul clearly and specifically stated in the Bible Gods views on women in the pastoral position.
Now we have people telling us that they believe the Bible through and through and totally skip over the part about women leadership in the church....you have to ask yourself??? Do they really believe? And the Bible answers that too....by their fruits you shall know them. = that is what’s in their heart.
Sure you can have a leity women pray for you, if she is living right and filled with the Holy Ghost her prayers will be answered but if not.....well...guess.
I’ve seen pictures posted of women wearing slacks (clothing which pertain to a man) And cut hair... Paul talks of that too.
So with that I won’t tell you that the Methodist people are going to hell....there is plenty of other denominations that also fallow their own rules and regulations that are nowhere near Bible teachings...
It’s too late for the world but what people need to do is wake up and realize the denomination won’t take them to heaven but a walk with Christ in their life is the only way.
Get ready people......you are all about to find out which direction you will be going if you continue the way you are.
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It Will be soon.

Wabigoon, I hope you got a satisfactory response to your OP because I don't want to derail this. But seeing as there is a lot of comment, I wanted to put this up there for our Christian brothers. The feminization and homosexualization of Christianity is probably the biggest factor in the decline of Christianity.

This is an interesting history of the process here - https://www.docdroid.net/pa7m/leon-j-podles-the-church-impotent-the-feminization-of-christianity.pdf

Wrong unbelief does.......

That above is a result of unbelief.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moralistic_therapeutic_deism

Moralistic therapeutic deism is what Christian Smith found best described the children of American Evangelicals in his sociological study.

Disturbing but confirms much of what Tom264 is saying.

I don't worry about that, with the thought of i'll be one of the first ones jumping up to help, hopefully the less experienced parishioners will stay seated and not think they have to engage.

Some modern day Pharisees care more about the rules than they care about the people for whom the rules were made.

I've been carrying in church for years. Recent events south of the Red River have only reinforced my conviction.

TRH:

The feminization rot is deep in the church. Most men don't have the stones to go against the rot.

If I started a thread about women ministers, would all the detractors go to that thread and keep that topic out of other church matters?

And then there are some who care about both out of love for the Creator/Lawgiver.

I’d suggest that not caring about the rules is equally dangerous to not caring for whom the rules were made, as God’s rules are given for the benefit of those He loves.

He only disciplines His children...

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Amen; whether in church or not.

You haven’t said where you’ve fallen on this? You gonna carry?

Those types are very dangerous too. It's a heresy that has been hashed out a longggg time ago.
https://whatsaiththescripture.com/Fellowship/Edit_Antinomianism.html

I bet the teachers who valiantly and futilely sacrificed their lives trying to save their student from a mentally ill mass murder at Sandy Hook would have wanted to have a 9mm at hand.

Hmmm...Jesus clearly sees it differently than you do. One day, on the Sabbath, Jesus and His disciples were going through the grainfields, and as they made their way, His disciples began to pluck heads of grain. And the Pharisees were saying to Him, “why are they doing what is not lawful on the Sabbath?” Jesus reminded them that when David and his companions were hungry, they entered the Temple and ate the bread of the Presence, which wasn’t lawful for anyone but the priests to eat. And then Jesus reminded them that the Sabbath was made for man, ‘not’ man for the Sabbath. Another time a man with a shriveled hand was present where Jesus was, on the Sabbath. And the Pharisees were watching to see if Jesus would heal him on the Sabbath...since it was against the rules. And He asked them, “Which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to destroy it...?” But they wouldn’t answer Him. And He looked around at them with anger, grieved at their hardness of heart, and said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” He stretched it out, and his hand was restored. ‘That’ pissed off the Pharisees. They clearly weren’t doing ‘anything’ out of love for the Creator/Lawgiver ‘or’ those people for whom the rules were made. And Jesus Himself pointed that out to them.

Well said.

Antlers, what Jesus condemned was meaningless legalism, not the upholding of definite standards.

No. He condemned placing more importance on ‘the rules’ than on the people for whom the rules are made. He condemned using God’s word to diminish someone that God loves. People are made in the spiritual image of God. People are the supreme object of God's creation. They are certainly more important than ‘the rules’.

Upholding this standard doesn’t in any way diminish anyone.