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Yep my thoughts too. I didn't need them either, just wanted them and wanted to be different. Got tired of all the talk about the thutty -thutty, the thutty awt 6 , 270 and the 243. Even though I have one of each of those too.

I'm neither here nor their on a .300 Winchester. I suppose its a great round judging by all the people that like it. I prefer the Weatherby for its longer neck and It out runs the Winchester about 100 FPS, which is not earth shaking. Actually, I have the Weatherby because I got a good deal on a used Mark V Lazer Mark and took it.

As for the .270 Winchester, I'm no woman and I love the cartridge and I know lots of other men who love it besides me. Most people I know who bitch about it probably never shot one. All I can say about it is that it has worked very well for me for 53 years. With the right bullets it's a bang flop killer of game. I don't shoot at game over 400 yards but it will kill Medium game and elk DRT at more traditional hunting ranges. There is a move on to make barrels with tighter twists and there are some longer higher BC bullets coming out for it, so if you want to shoot to the next Zip Code I'm sure it would do that well. I don't need it and the more traditional bullets for it make me happy. There's lots of people on these forums that use it for elk. I say that even though I've never been elk hunting. But the volume of people here that claim to have killed elk with them makes me believe they are effective for that.

I agree on the Whelen. I know at least 100 people that shoot a Whelen and kill big animals with them and love it. I have a 9.3x62 that fills that niche for me, but I could have gone the other way and built a Whelen just as easily. I just got talked into building the 9.3, and I'm satisfied with it.

I feel the .223 Remington has its place. I have two, a Savage bolt gun and an AR. I haven't used it for hogs yet but know it will work on them and plan to use the AR on some this Spring. I too get cranky when I see some clown dressed like a Ninga using it on elephants. I think it has it's place but anything bigger than deer and hogs should get something more appropriate. However, you hunt your cape buffalo and I'll hunt mine.

I love 12 gauges and own 3. I don't care how much yours cost. Last time I checked my particular Citori was selling for around $1500. If you can find one cheaper good. I also have an express 870 that probably goes for less than $400 new. I don't care how much yours costs. I also have a nearly 80 year old Model 12 Winchester. I have no idea what one goes for today, and if you can find a grass sack full of 'em for $100 good for you.

And finally, I don't care how you kill your skeet. i kill mine with an improved cylinder or skeet choke tube. If you kill yours with a .270 thats fine with me. just warn me if you're doing it around where i am so I can dodge those flying bullets.

Now I'm not trying to be a smart ass here, I'm just having a little fun with the OP. Actually, I'm pretty easy to please. However the only pet peeve I have is people touting the 6.5s over other diameters. There's nothing magical about them. Any caliber you can find a barrel twist that will stabilize the bullet that will make it happen for you will make it happen for you. If you can get a barrel for your .270 or hell, your 257 Roberts for that matter that will allow you to shoot your 170 grain (.270) or 130 grain (.257 Bob) that will allow you to shoot into the next zip code then go for it. I'm outta here for now, "Say good night Gracie!"

I always wondered why a caliber was invented in the first place. We have so many that are not different enough to matter. We had a 300 Weatherby . The bullets were expensive so the 300 Win. mag. made sense . But then a 300 Win. Short Mag and a 300 Rem. ultra mag. didn't seem to make much sense. I only buy calibers that I can find easily so the 300 Rem. Ultra Mag. is out. I have a .270 Win. , a 243 Win. and a .223 Rem. and a 22 lr. All easy to find. What I dont like is people that despise my calibers cause they think there's is better. If I had to do it all over , I think a dumb old , stupid , old mans, boring .308 Win would be fine, but then make a .35/08 Win. , a 270/08, 250/08 Win, and 24/08 WIn. Do the same with the 30-06. That would make sense cause you have the .473 case, not that I care.

And after all these many years nobody has put the B29 into production.

Bingo! I do the same thing.

You mean Mann’s purple-grape worms won’t catch fish? Dang. I hope my ‘06 still works.

I’m still trying to figure out how a person could be so shallow or judgmental as to hold a man he doesn’t know in contempt because he chooses to hunt with a $1200 shot gun or use $8 shot. . .

SMH... 🤨

IDGAS what another man chooses to hunt with whether it be the cheapest Mossberg he got from the clearance rack the local Walmart or the most expensive custom he had handfitted from a boutique gunshop in England. It’s his money. I tend to just automatically assume - at least until proven otherwise - that he’s gonna be alright just cause he hunts...

Btw, there aren’t any calibers that should die. They’re all good as far as I’m concerned. In this day and age when all guns and their owners are under attack, I’d prefer to see even more introduced...

I have had those moments. Usually it is when the gun or cartridge mentioned doesn't match their persona. I have grown to understand that is a flaw of mine and not theirs. It is really just me stereotyping them. I do admit that I used to have a hate for the 22 Hornet, but it grew on me. I started with a 218 Bee before the Hornet and I couldn't understand why someone would choose the Hornet over the Bee. If I am being honest with myself I really don't like the 220 Swift or the 270 Winchester either. I had to neck turn for the first time with the Swift I owned and I hated it. The 270 kicks just enough that it is not exactly light, but just hard enough you have to hold onto it. Plus it seems like every other owner of one has to start quoting O'Connor or someone else to justify their choice. I would be a hypocrite if I did not fess up to owning a 270 Winchester and shooting two deer with it. It is one of the classics. I guess it comes down to this... I really don't care anymore what someone else uses, but I do know what I won't use.

In my youth once or twice I looked down my nose at some guy with a Fudd rig, or rather his rig and choice of chambering made me think he was a real Fudd, but soon learned the error of that.

Still have some reactions to two kinds of folks.

1. Disdain for those whose cartridge choice exceeds their ability to shoot it. Won't name names and it was almost 20 years ago anyway, but hunted with a guy who had a .300 Win. Mag that he had no business shooting since it made him flinch like an abused dog. Watched him blow multiple non-lethal holes around the periphery of animals, broke both front legs of one, just miserable shooting that made for miserable kills.

2. Amusement at those who try to buy skill instead of learning and earning it, I see them at sight in days every year. But hey, it keeps the gun stores profitable.

Hell yeah they will.... but not as well as a Bagley's Springtail Magnum..

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Yep, bring back some obsolete ammos too so we can shoot some of these dead chamberings!

I would pay gladly for a .44 RF ammo and a levermatic to shoot it. Last time I saw one at a gun show it was an original Henry in very good condition. Wanted $125,000 for it....no ammo. No shoot, no buy.

Hold on. Let me don my Nomex suit and Kevlar and climb into my bunker in an undisclosed location......

Okay, .257 Roberts, .250/3000, .280 AI, .275 Rigby AND 7x57, .358 Win., .223 AI, .338 Fed., .260, 6.5x55, .22 Hornet, .300 H&H, .35 Whelan (deliberately misspelled to add to the outrage), .30/30, all the Kreedmires, and finally the .30 Sneezer, just for Dan.

The only one I can think of is the WSSM series.
From what I've understood the action sizing on them is so odd you largely can't even rechamber them to anything.

I could live without 10 of those easily. However it DONT MATTER to me
what anyone else saddles themselves with, I ain’t gotta live with em.


Jerry

You go to a deer hunting sight and the 223 is one heck of a good deer cartridge specially for youngsters. You go to a predator hunting sight and there is a big problem with the 223 and runners when using it on coyotes. There must be some tough coyotes out there, I'm glad I shoot a 222 Rem and don't have those problems.

I love the metaphor- "flinch like an abused dog". I know a guy like that aswell.

I'm with you on all except .257 Roberts, 30-30, and 22 hornet. I own all three. I know there are 22 cals that can do it all better than my little hornet but I have had it for years and its made many trips on the trapline. I have a couple 30-30's because they are great for my kids. They have all had one. Lower recoil but enough power that I wasnt chronically worried when they would go hiking alone. Then the .257 Roberts. I have no excuses. I just like it. Its a hand-me-down pre 64 that Ive had for decades.

I just have a disdain for legislated concepts.

The 38 Super is adequate for deer, but the 9mm and 38 Special arent.
The 350 Legend is only a great idea because certain legislators created its existence, but the 351 Winchester Self Loader of over a hundred years ago is supposedly anemic turd and NOT legal.

3 inch slugs, sabot slugs and rifled slug barrels all came about because of legislation and ways to circumvent it. Muzzleloaders too. All useless and not in the interest of cleanly killing anything.