|
|
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 4,354
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 4,354 |
Just what are we talking about? Whatever you want.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 4,354
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 4,354 |
Plants and animals are not created, they evolve and grow. Only microbes existed on the planet for 3 billion years. Is that speculation or revelation? DF why neither, of course. just a plain ol' fact (the real kind, not an alternative one).
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,955 Likes: 6
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,955 Likes: 6 |
If there is a Creator, why would it care what you believe? The Creator in the Bible tells us He loves us. Those in our relm care when they love. He says He made us in His image so we can conclude He cares. But don't forget He hates the wicked. He is The One Who cursed His creation. He claims when a calamity occurs He did it. The God of the Bible is not the god we hear about in most classes and churches.
"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation."
Everyday Hunter
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,097
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,097 |
Yep, just like that. Also love, beauty, loyalty, a first kiss, holding your baby for the first time, a wedding night, fresh cracked crab and melted butter, cold beer, a sizzling ribeye with sautéed mushrooms, huckleberry pie, pancakes in elk camp, elk heart fried in bacon grease the evening of opening day, your first car, the feeling of a 50-lb halibut on your line, the look in your wife’s eyes...
Also death, pain, fear, disappointment, failure, loss, tragedy, and democrats. Can’t have the good without the bad. Can’t have the bad without the good, either.
And I know I’m not going to change your mind, I’m not trying. I’m just expressing my belief.
When things on the terrible list are happening, - do you fervently pray (like so many others do) to change them, Or do you just humbly accept it all as part of divine will process / Gods master plan?
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 61,343 Likes: 35
Campfire Kahuna
|
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 61,343 Likes: 35 |
I am not about to deny God. Do so at your own peril.
God loved us first. He askes nothing of us. He has granted the greatest Gift in all the universe, all we have to do is humble ourselves a little bit, and take the Gift.
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o
"May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,727 Likes: 3
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,727 Likes: 3 |
Plants and animals are not created, they evolve and grow. Only microbes existed on the planet for 3 billion years. Prove it! It's been proven with one hundred and fifty years of research. Check out the textbooks. Only the means and mechanisms by which organisms evolve is left to investigate. Evolution is proven.
Last edited by DBT; 02/13/20.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,727 Likes: 3
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,727 Likes: 3 |
Plants and animals are not created, they evolve and grow. Only microbes existed on the planet for 3 billion years. Is that speculation or revelation? DF Proven with evidence. Done and dusted.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,727 Likes: 3
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,727 Likes: 3 |
If there is a Creator, why would it care what you believe? The Creator in the Bible tells us He loves us. Those in our relm care when they love. He says He made us in His image so we can conclude He cares. But don't forget He hates the wicked. He is The One Who cursed His creation. He claims when a calamity occurs He did it. The God of the Bible is not the god we hear about in most classes and churches. The bible also says a whole lot of other things....things that are not compatible with love - coming from God. Which is why the Gnostics believed what they did about the God of the bible.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 202
Campfire Member
|
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 202 |
If there is a Creator, why would it care what you believe? He cares, you just got to believe it.
O.B.Wallace
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,097
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,097 |
God loved us first. He askes nothing of us.
God asks nothing of you?.. your God must be vastly different to the God of other christians.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 13,269 Likes: 7
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 13,269 Likes: 7 |
Yep, just like that. Also love, beauty, loyalty, a first kiss, holding your baby for the first time, a wedding night, fresh cracked crab and melted butter, cold beer, a sizzling ribeye with sautéed mushrooms, huckleberry pie, pancakes in elk camp, elk heart fried in bacon grease the evening of opening day, your first car, the feeling of a 50-lb halibut on your line, the look in your wife’s eyes...
Also death, pain, fear, disappointment, failure, loss, tragedy, and democrats. Can’t have the good without the bad. Can’t have the bad without the good, either.
And I know I’m not going to change your mind, I’m not trying. I’m just expressing my belief.
When things on the terrible list are happening, - do you fervently pray (like so many others do) to change them, Or do you just humbly accept it all as part of the process of your Gods master plan? I pray that things change, of course, but I ask for His peace if they don’t. The whole “Not my will but Thine,” thing. Throw another one at me, this is fun. P
Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
Member #547
Join date 3/09/2001
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,097
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,097 |
I pray that things change, of course, but I ask for His peace if they don’t.
The whole “Not my will but Thine,” thing.
Throw another one at me, this is fun.
Praying for things to change according to your own preferences is not praying for Gods will. What does God lack that such prayers would alter/influence his divine will?
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,727 Likes: 3
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,727 Likes: 3 |
If there is a Creator, why would it care what you believe? He cares, you just got to believe it. That's you saying it, not a Creator of the universe saying it. If justified belief was important to a Creator of the Universe, there would be no problem providing evidence...rather than just a bunch of people saying what they believe while contradicting another bunch of people who believe something else.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,727 Likes: 3
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,727 Likes: 3 |
I pray that things change, of course, but I ask for His peace if they don’t.
The whole “Not my will but Thine,” thing.
Throw another one at me, this is fun.
Praying for things to change according to your own preferences is not praying for Gods will. What does God lack that such prayers would alter/influence his divine will? Maybe God allows bad things to happen so that he can feel useful when prayed to? Yet hardly ever answering prayers so as to give the impression that he doesn't actually exist...thereby playing the game of hide and seek based on faith? Then getting very upset when someone is not convinced of his existence? It's all very strange.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,097
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,097 |
Christians regularly flip-flop on their faith.
First its: "I trust everything that happens as the divine will of the Lord"
next thing - they are group praying cause they dont like the cards God
has delt someone.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 13,269 Likes: 7
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 13,269 Likes: 7 |
I pray that things change, of course, but I ask for His peace if they don’t.
The whole “Not my will but Thine,” thing.
Throw another one at me, this is fun.
Praying for things to change according to your own preferences is not praying for Gods will. What does God lack that such prayers would alter/influence his divine will? I’m selfish, of course I want things my way. Duh. Sometimes God’s will looks like a poop sandwich, but I don’t understand the Big Picture. So I ask for things to go my way but peace in my heart if/when they don’t. I don’t see it as God lacking anything. That’s an odd choice of words to me. P
Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
Member #547
Join date 3/09/2001
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,097
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,097 |
I’m selfish, ... So I ask for things to go my way but peace in my heart if/when they don’t.
So you dont pray in faith for 'Gods will be done' like you claimed.
The whole “Not my will but Thine,” thing.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 13,269 Likes: 7
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 13,269 Likes: 7 |
Did you push the post reply button a little early?
Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
Member #547
Join date 3/09/2001
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,955 Likes: 6
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,955 Likes: 6 |
Is that why I could find three pH.D. evolutionists the other day who say there is nothing they can say for sure is true about evolution?
If you don't have field or laboratory experience you are a parrot like most of us.
"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation."
Everyday Hunter
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 13,269 Likes: 7
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 13,269 Likes: 7 |
Sure I do. I pray that His will is the same as what I want. But if His will is different, I ask for His peace to accept it.
You’re working a little too hard. Don’t over think it.
P
Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
Member #547
Join date 3/09/2001
|
|
|
|
|
536 members (160user, 12344mag, 10gaugeman, 117LBS, 1234, 1beaver_shooter, 55 invisible),
2,841
guests, and
1,192
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,194,796
Posts18,536,459
Members74,041
| |
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|
