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Born again was a trip for me when the Southern Baptist preacher tried to drown me at age 12. The experience, coupled with being brought up with a true Christian mother handed me some morels & made me a thinker on the subject & an observer of folks that claimed to be Christians.
Truly born again was when I got divorced from a schizophrenic bitch that was making me a way worse person than I really was.
Case closed.
Wow..........tell us more.
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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I can no way begin to explain it but if you've been there you'll never forget it.
Your so filled with joy it is unbelievable and undeniable that it came from a higher power.
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Maybe I never heard the term because the people I know had been raised in their respective religions and been believers from birth. Thus they never discussed the born again phenomenon.
Even babtism which occurs at about age 16 or so (old enough to make an informed decision) was always considered more of a confirmation than a rebirth.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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I have spent 63 years of my life surrounded by deeply religious people of the Christian Faith. I attended Sabbath School until I was 25 years old. I have taken Bible Studies from a couple of denominations, and taken History of the Old Testament class in College. But I have never heard a person use this "Born Again" term until I listened to TV evangelists. I have never heard it from my family, or from my Morman friends, or Lutheran friends, or from members of "The Brethren".
So what is the deal? Was the term recently invented just for TV Evangelism? To believe with the same innocence of that as a trusting child would believe.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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Maybe I never heard the term because the people I know had been raised in their respective religions and been believers from birth. Thus they never discussed the born again phenomenon.
Even babtism which occurs at about age 16 or so (old enough to make an informed decision) was always considered more of a confirmation than a rebirth. Baptism makes one a Church member. To be born again, one must repent of the sin of unbelief and be saved by the grace of God. Baptism comes after salvation.
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Maybe I never heard the term because the people I know had been raised in their respective religions and been believers from birth. Thus they never discussed the born again phenomenon.
Even babtism which occurs at about age 16 or so (old enough to make an informed decision) was always considered more of a confirmation than a rebirth. Baptism makes one a Church member. To be born again, one must repent of the sin of unbelief and be saved by the grace of God. Baptism comes after salvation. Baptism makes one a member in the community of Chr*st. The “church “ is only a conduit.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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I can no way begin to explain it but if you've been there you'll never forget it.
Your so filled with joy it is unbelievable and undeniable that it came from a higher power.
... can't be explained because its nonsensical.
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Idaho Shooter: I am not up on the definitions of many current religious terms used by various entities/factions but I take no offense or great curiosity when I see or hear the term "BORN AGAIN" being used.
I have been seeing of late (last 2 years) a bumper sticker that reads "BORN OK THE FIRST TIME"!
I "heard" that this is a refutation of Christianity and the owners of those bumper stickers are atheist's.
I would never display a bumper sticker that is solely intended to offend a lot of my neighbors.
But its a new world we live in I guess?
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy Offending the neighbors might be his reason, but offending the Lord is serious business, fatally serious.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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I'm not familiar with the "brethren" of whom you speak, but it's not surprising you haven't heard the term from mormons.
However, among Protestant Christians it is not a new or colloquial term as has been posted by others far more eloquent than I.
The mormons are concerned with getting their own planet, the papists worship idols and ask for confession from pedos.
Being born again and taking responsibility for your actions is a different thing.
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Maybe I never heard the term because the people I know had been raised in their respective religions and been believers from birth. Thus they never discussed the born again phenomenon.
Even babtism which occurs at about age 16 or so (old enough to make an informed decision) was always considered more of a confirmation than a rebirth. Baptism makes one a Church member. To be born again, one must repent of the sin of unbelief and be saved by the grace of God. Baptism comes after salvation. Baptism makes one a member in the community of Chr*st. The “church “ is only a conduit. THE Church is the bride of Christ.
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I'm not familiar with the "brethren" of whom you speak, but it's not surprising you haven't heard the term from mormons.
However, among Protestant Christians it is not a new or colloquial term as has been posted by others far more eloquent than I.
The mormons are concerned with getting their own planet, the papists worship idols and ask for confession from pedos.
Being born again and taking responsibility for your actions is a different thing. Religion is *usually* just the opposite. It's taking no responsibility for your actions because you are forgiven no matter what. Just look at grab 'em by the pussy Trump.
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Maybe I never heard the term because the people I know had been raised in their respective religions and been believers from birth. Thus they never discussed the born again phenomenon.
Even babtism which occurs at about age 16 or so (old enough to make an informed decision) was always considered more of a confirmation than a rebirth. Baptism makes one a Church member. To be born again, one must repent of the sin of unbelief and be saved by the grace of God. Baptism comes after salvation. So you made my point. Those who never suffered unbelief, are never "reborn".
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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Maybe I never heard the term because the people I know had been raised in their respective religions and been believers from birth. Thus they never discussed the born again phenomenon.
Even babtism which occurs at about age 16 or so (old enough to make an informed decision) was always considered more of a confirmation than a rebirth. Baptism makes one a Church member. To be born again, one must repent of the sin of unbelief and be saved by the grace of God. Baptism comes after salvation. Baptism makes one a member in the community of Chr*st. The “church “ is only a conduit. THE Church is the bride of Christ. Your point is well made and spot on. Agree.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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Maybe I never heard the term because the people I know had been raised in their respective religions and been believers from birth. Thus they never discussed the born again phenomenon.
Even babtism which occurs at about age 16 or so (old enough to make an informed decision) was always considered more of a confirmation than a rebirth. Baptism makes one a Church member. To be born again, one must repent of the sin of unbelief and be saved by the grace of God. Baptism comes after salvation. So you made my point. Those who never suffered unbelief, are never "reborn". The scripture says "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God".
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I'm not familiar with the "brethren" of whom you speak, but it's not surprising you haven't heard the term from mormons.
However, among Protestant Christians it is not a new or colloquial term as has been posted by others far more eloquent than I.
The mormons are concerned with getting their own planet, the papists worship idols and ask for confession from pedos.
Being born again and taking responsibility for your actions is a different thing. Religion is *usually* just the opposite. It's taking no responsibility for your actions because you are forgiven no matter what. Just look at grab 'em by the pussy Trump. Heh heh. You are one comical guy.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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I'm not familiar with the "brethren" of whom you speak, but it's not surprising you haven't heard the term from mormons.
However, among Protestant Christians it is not a new or colloquial term as has been posted by others far more eloquent than I.
The mormons are concerned with getting their own planet, the papists worship idols and ask for confession from pedos.
Being born again and taking responsibility for your actions is a different thing. Religion is *usually* just the opposite. It's taking no responsibility for your actions because you are forgiven no matter what. Just look at grab 'em by the pussy Trump. Damn, you are a phuging idiot...
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I'm not familiar with the "brethren" of whom you speak, but it's not surprising you haven't heard the term from mormons.
However, among Protestant Christians it is not a new or colloquial term as has been posted by others far more eloquent than I.
The mormons are concerned with getting their own planet, the papists worship idols and ask for confession from pedos.
Being born again and taking responsibility for your actions is a different thing. Religion is *usually* just the opposite. It's taking no responsibility for your actions because you are forgiven no matter what. Just look at grab 'em by the pussy Trump. Damn, you are a phuging idiot... I'm just trying to figure out which idiot.
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Maybe I never heard the term because the people I know had been raised in their respective religions and been believers from birth. Thus they never discussed the born again phenomenon.
Even babtism which occurs at about age 16 or so (old enough to make an informed decision) was always considered more of a confirmation than a rebirth. Baptism makes one a Church member. To be born again, one must repent of the sin of unbelief and be saved by the grace of God. Baptism comes after salvation. Baptism makes one a member in the community of Chr*st. The “church “ is only a conduit. THE Church is the bride of Christ. Your point is well made and spot on. Agree. Pretty deep stuff for my feeble brain.
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Maybe I never heard the term because the people I know had been raised in their respective religions and been believers from birth. Thus they never discussed the born again phenomenon.
Even babtism which occurs at about age 16 or so (old enough to make an informed decision) was always considered more of a confirmation than a rebirth. Baptism makes one a Church member. To be born again, one must repent of the sin of unbelief and be saved by the grace of God. Baptism comes after salvation. Baptism makes one a member in the community of Chr*st. The “church “ is only a conduit. THE Church is the bride of Christ. Your point is well made and spot on. Agree. Pretty deep stuff for my feeble brain. You’re sandbagging on us.’ Grins
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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Maybe I never heard the term because the people I know had been raised in their respective religions and been believers from birth. Thus they never discussed the born again phenomenon.
Even babtism which occurs at about age 16 or so (old enough to make an informed decision) was always considered more of a confirmation than a rebirth. Baptism makes one a Church member. To be born again, one must repent of the sin of unbelief and be saved by the grace of God. Baptism comes after salvation. Baptism makes one a member in the community of Chr*st. The “church “ is only a conduit. THE Church is the bride of Christ. Your point is well made and spot on. Agree. Pretty deep stuff for my feeble brain. You’re sandbagging on us.’ Grins Not really.
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