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T, honestly the .338 is a handful, Think twice about that....

Seriously, what would require the use of a .338?

We don't even take cartridges that large out west for Elk.

Too heavy, too much recoil, Just not fun to shoot.

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Split the difference 7mm Rem mag . Those 2 cartridges are polar opposites.



I don't know about splitting the difference, but two more opposite cartridges are hard to conceive of.

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My vote is the 257 Roy!


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A vote for the .257Roy, had used mine on deer and elk

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I'll do the Campfire thing and suggest something you didn't ask about. Given your choice of cartridges I'll assume your donor is already set up for a belted mag diameter case. So how about a 264 mag with an 8" twist?


That's the way I'd go.

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Once you try the the big 25 you’ll love it.
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Originally Posted by Kenneth
T, honestly the .338 is a handful, Think twice about that....

Seriously, what would require the use of a .338?

We don't even take cartridges that large out west for Elk.

Too heavy, too much recoil, Just not fun to shoot.


The .338 Magnum can be good if you pick the right oneintelligently customized factory rifle... Quality recoil pad, removable muzzle break, improved trigger and stock to action fit. I'm sure scope is not included but that rifle is very fairly priced. Like the seller says better than original from the factory.

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Do the 338 and we can go moose hunting. I have some good looking moose hunts percolating.

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Between your choices I'd build the 257. I disliked my last 338. I would build a 375 Ruger before a 338.

25-06 isn't bad in the 25 cal. realm.

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All one needs is .30-06. I would be willing to bet the most popular caliber in Alaska is .30-06 or something similar. All them Americans from outside want to tote "Elephant Guns" that's despite the fact that non-residents need to use service of professional guides when hunting there.
Here is professional grade Alaska guide/camper's rifle"Professional use only"....For novice it will leave a mark and "put water" into their eyes.

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Originally Posted by TJAY
Do the 338 and we can go moose hunting. I have some good looking moose hunts percolating.


Well that would give me a specific use for a .338WM laugh

TJAY, can you load them down to 338-06 velocities? What are you shooting for elk/moose?


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Originally Posted by Slavek


The .338 Magnum can be good if you pick the right oneintelligently customized factory rifle... Quality recoil pad, removable muzzle break, improved trigger and stock to action fit. I'm sure scope is not included but that rifle is very fairly priced. Like the seller says better than original from the factory.


The muzzle break should be the only clue you need,

At this point after many weekends at the Public range, I consider brakes to be Public Enemy #1

Useless, loud, obnoxious piece of chits.............

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Originally Posted by Kenneth
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The .338 Magnum can be good if you pick the right oneintelligently customized factory rifle... Quality recoil pad, removable muzzle break, improved trigger and stock to action fit. I'm sure scope is not included but that rifle is very fairly priced. Like the seller says better than original from the factory.


The muzzle break should be the only clue you need,

At this point after many weekends at the Public range, I consider brakes to be Public Enemy #1

Useless, loud, obnoxious piece of chits.............



While we don’t do public ranges, even then, my wife absolutely hates muzzle brakes.....and “will not” even consider putting one on her .338 WM. Also, 338’s are not necessarily heavy, her rifle weighs in at 8 lb. 15 oz. scoped, loaded, and slung!. Truthfully, she doesn’t enjoy shooting from the bench. Once a load is developed bench work is unnecessary, except for a zero check. Practice should be from field positions, replicating shots likely to be taken when hunting!

As to the .338 WM having a specific purpose, she has used hers every year since 1996, on all game from deer/antelope, thru elk, moose, bear! It’s pretty difficult to beat the versatility of a .338 WM. memtb

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Look, you’re on 24hourcampfire.com, which means you’ll end up with both eventually. The real question is which to get first. I’d go with the 257.


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The 257, but expect explosive results on targets within a couple hundred yards.


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For me 257.

I have a Pre Garcia Sako 338 that hasn't seen daylight in 25 years.
Bought it, shot it. Now it sits.
Recoil isn't that bad. But for my use, my 300 win will do
everything a 338 will. And the 300 hasn't been used in a long while.
Only hunt deer anymore.

As someone else posted, a nice light 257 would be very usable.


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by Slavek


The .338 Magnum can be good if you pick the right oneintelligently customized factory rifle... Quality recoil pad, removable muzzle break, improved trigger and stock to action fit. I'm sure scope is not included but that rifle is very fairly priced. Like the seller says better than original from the factory.


The muzzle break should be the only clue you need,

At this point after many weekends at the Public range, I consider brakes to be Public Enemy #1

Useless, loud, obnoxious piece of chits.............



And quite unnecessary on a .338


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tzone -

Regarding .338WM rifles...

1. They aren't necessarily heavy, as has been pointed out. Mine has a fluted 22" barrel and weighs no more than my .300WM or 7mm RM and not significantly more than my or 280 or others.

2. Not a fan of muzzle brakes and the only bolt rifle I have with one is my lightweight .308 Ruger Scout with a 16.1" barrel. Calculated .338WM recoil with 225g AccuBonds at around 2750 fps is a bit more than my .300WM with 180s at around 3050 fps.

3. The difference on target between my .338WM and smaller diameter cartridges is quite noticeable with much bigger holes in. Have never recovered a .338 bullet even on my longest elk kill at 487 yards.

4. Is the .338WM fun at the bench? Not particularly, but it isn't that bad. I wouldn't say my .300WM or 7mm RM or .30-06 rifles are fun at the bench, either, but I've used all the above to hit clay pigeons on the 600-yard berm. For fun, get a rifle cambered for lighter weight, smaller diameter cartridges or one that i heavy enough to absorb a lot of recoil. My most fun rifles are .223, .243, Win .257 Roberts and my heavy barrel 6.5 CM and 6.5-06AI rifles. Recoil on those is light enough al my daughters love to shoot them. If recoil is a biggie, get the .257.


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Originally Posted by memtb
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by Slavek


The .338 Magnum can be good if you pick the right oneintelligently customized factory rifle... Quality recoil pad, removable muzzle break, improved trigger and stock to action fit. I'm sure scope is not included but that rifle is very fairly priced. Like the seller says better than original from the factory.


The muzzle break should be the only clue you need,

At this point after many weekends at the Public range, I consider brakes to be Public Enemy #1

Useless, loud, obnoxious piece of chits.............



While we don’t do public ranges, even then, my wife absolutely hates muzzle brakes.....and “will not” even consider putting one on her .338 WM. Also, 338’s are not necessarily heavy, her rifle weighs in at 8 lb. 15 oz. scoped, loaded, and slung!. Truthfully, she doesn’t enjoy shooting from the bench. Once a load is developed bench work is unnecessary, except for a zero check. Practice should be from field positions, replicating shots likely to be taken when hunting!

As to the .338 WM having a specific purpose, she has used hers every year since 1996, on all game from deer/antelope, thru elk, moose, bear! It’s pretty difficult to beat the versatility of a .338 WM. memtb


I've had and used a 338WM since about the same time. I will say that they are not as fun to practice with shooting off the bench. I've shot as much as 40 rounds off the bench with some of my 338wm rifles, in one sitting. I much prefer shooting my 6.5 creedmoor rifles. My hat goes off to guys or girls that can shoot more than I do with the big magnum rifles. I will always have a good 338wm rifle around for my elk hunts, as that is the one cartridge I always grab on opening day. That's not saying that's the only cartridge I have killed elk with, because it is not. To me, my main elk hunting rifle chambered in 338 rarely gets shot. I have plenty more rifles that I can practice with that replicate the function of my 338. Absolutely no need to practice with your heavy kicking 338 in anticipation of that one shot you are going to put on that elk. That may just be me though. I'd rather practice with my .223's, 22-250's, 6.5 cm and even 30-06 rifles the whole year. If you have a good rifle and scope package, it will stay zeroed during the course of the year and will be ready for your elk hunt. Mine is ready and always zeroed. Funny thing is I have a picture I post a lot about how well my 338 shoots:
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Check the date on that target^^^^^^^^^^^^ That was actually the last time I shot that rifle until last year:
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That was almost exactly 2 years of not shooting that rifle, but it was ready for that elk hunt. I say if the OP is looking for a dandy elk cartridge, buy the 338wm, but if he's looking to do a lot of shooting and practicing, buy the 257wby. I'm also wondering why there's such a big gap in choice here? Kind of funny question, "help me choose 257WBY or 338WM"..... I'd just buy both and be done with it...


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Five shots and you still missed the center. Better luck next time!!! wink


My 22" barreled .338 WM shoots 225g AB and SST at about the same - about 2770fps and nice tight groups. But I always miss too, about 2-1/2" high.


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