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Balaam’s donkey, the original smartass.
The tax collector said: “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Jesus said he went home “justified.”
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Balaam’s donkey, the original smartass. Yep Numbers 22
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500. Because the Bible says so. That, and thousands of believers would rather die in the arena
torn apart by beasts or nailed to a burning cross than deny Jesus Christ.
the same Bible that has talking donkeys. So I take it you believe in talking donkeys. Starman, Ricky's a full fledged Young Earth Creationist. As in everything, you are totally wrong again. Very much like the demoncrap lieberals, everything you know just isn't so. I believe there are hundreds of millions of years between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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How does that figure work, given the list of generations following Adam?
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Everytime a thread starts with God stuff in the title,
possessive control freak wackos treat it like its their
own private exclusive use chapel. Hell's gonna be hot, partner. I sure hope you change your mind. If not, I did my part. Hell? For open and honest inquiry and debate? What kind of Monstrous God do you believe in? Infinite! You don't understand. Infinite does not start at neutral and go towards nice. When Infinite is bad by our perception He's terrible. And He's the Being with Whom we must deal. That doesn't explain a thing. It doesn't even make sense.
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Evidence is the only means we have for sorting fact from fiction. Faith can't do it. Hopes desires or fears can't do it.
Does your evidence include radiometric dating? All rocks of known age come up with WRONG dates. Why do evolutionist believe dates on rocks of unknown age. That, my friend, would fall squarely into the realm of faith. And while you're answering this question maybe you could tell us why scientists use the space rock Allende to date the earth instead of a rock originating right here on earth. You still appear to be getting your information from creationist sites. They are not being honest. Their purpose is make it appear like they have answers in order to maintain the biblical world view and keep believers happy. Just scratch the surface a bit by studying actual science and it all falls apart.
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Evidence is the only means we have for sorting fact from fiction. Yet the beliefs held by atheists regarding their claim of the nonexistence of God are without any supporting evidence. Atheists believe that God does not exist, citing that there is no absolute proof that He does exist. Yet atheists have no actual evidence that He does not exist. I have no problem with their beliefs, or with the faith that they have in their beliefs. But there’s no reciprocity from their side. They clearly ‘do’ have a problem with what others believe, and with the faith that others have in their beliefs.
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Evidence is the only means we have for sorting fact from fiction. Yet the beliefs held by atheists regarding their claim of the nonexistence of God are without any supporting evidence. Atheists believe that God does not exist, citing that there is no absolute proof that He does exist. Yet atheists have no actual evidence that He does not exist. I have no problem with their beliefs, or with the faith that they have in their beliefs. But there’s no reciprocity from their side. They clearly ‘do’ have a problem with what others believe, and with the faith that others have in their beliefs. Justification has been explained numerous times.....sufficient evidence justifies conviction as does an absence of evidence where evidence should be found. You believe that you had a bottle of milk in the fridge, but upon opening the fridge door and searching for the milk you find that there is no milk in the fridge. There is no evidence of milk in the fridge. What then? Do you feel that you are justified to believe that there is milk in the fridge, regardless of the absence of evidence for its presence? And yes, the universe is vast and there may be a hidden God or a bunch of gods, but until evidence comes along to show they exist, it is not justified to believe that they do in fact exist.
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Very poor analogy. No milk = no God.
That’s quite a leap of faith on your part though...!
Congrats.
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Balaam’s donkey, the original smartass. Yep Numbers 22 Many thanks to the both of you.
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Everytime a thread starts with God stuff in the title,
possessive control freak wackos treat it like its their
own private exclusive use chapel. Hell's gonna be hot, partner. I sure hope you change your mind. If not, I did my part. Hell? For open and honest inquiry and debate? What kind of Monstrous God do you believe in? Infinite! You don't understand. Infinite does not start at neutral and go towards nice. When Infinite is bad by our perception He's terrible. And He's the Being with Whom we must deal. That doesn't explain a thing. It doesn't even make sense. It makes no sense because you choose to ignore the concept of God.
"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation."
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Very poor analogy. No milk = no God.
That’s quite a leap of faith on your part though...!
Congrats.
You completely miss the point of justification, regardless of what it's applied to.
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Everytime a thread starts with God stuff in the title,
possessive control freak wackos treat it like its their
own private exclusive use chapel. Hell's gonna be hot, partner. I sure hope you change your mind. If not, I did my part. Hell? For open and honest inquiry and debate? What kind of Monstrous God do you believe in? Infinite! You don't understand. Infinite does not start at neutral and go towards nice. When Infinite is bad by our perception He's terrible. And He's the Being with Whom we must deal. That doesn't explain a thing. It doesn't even make sense. It makes no sense because you choose to ignore the concept of God. How do I ignore the concept of God? The issue is the question of the reality of God.
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concept [Def.]
/ˈkɒnsɛpt/
noun - an abstract idea.
"an idea or invention to help sell or publicize
a commodity."
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
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concept [Def.]
/ˈkɒnsɛpt/
noun - an abstract idea.
"an idea or invention to help sell or publicize
a commodity." Yes, he got the God as a concept right.
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concept [Def.]
/ˈkɒnsɛpt/
noun - an abstract idea.
"an idea or invention to help sell or publicize
a commodity." Yes, he got the God as a concept right. How do you know?
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concept [Def.]
/ˈkɒnsɛpt/
noun - an abstract idea.
"an idea or invention to help sell or publicize
a commodity." Yes, he got the God as a concept right. How do you know? Because we have no direct access to any version of God or gods that people have believed in throughout history.....now if an actual God came forward openly and honestly just like people deal with each other in daily life, that would be a different story. At that point God would not be a concept, but a reality.
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He did, there is a Book all about it.
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o
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He did, there is a Book all about it. That's a claim. We have a book written and compiled, not by God, but people. Human beings writing about what they believed.
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He did, there is a Book all about it. That's a claim. Human beings writing about what they believed. And your beliefs are “a claim” as well. And you’re posting about what ‘you’ believe.
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