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I guess my problem with "firmly established science" is that there are too many wild guesses put forward as truth in science. I keep hearing scientists say things like . . . . . it is possible that such and such could have happened. Then they start giving dates for things happening like 50 to 100 million years ago. They are admitting to an error of 50 million years and that is not science, that is guess work, and poor guess work at best. And then they get people to have faith in their theories and guesses. Could have, may have and might have are not scientific terms. It takes more faith to believe in science than it does to have faith in a the Lord God Almighty. Have any of you guys ever read the Bible through from cover to cover? Detractors of Christianity sit in judgment on God, and then run God down for sitting in judgment on them. "who does God think he is?" Well, he thinks he's God, and so do I.  Yes, I've read it cover to cover.... that in fact is what helped me become an atheist.
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Science has predictive powers, otherwise it's worthless.
Faith has no powers whatsoever. The definition of faith is believing in something that you know not to be true.
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Detractors of Christianity sit in judgment on God..
They sensibly scrutinize Scripture written by fallible man and anonymous authors. Even devout Christian scholars humbly ackowledge sections of the book are forgeries.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
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Just one final thought . . . . . . . . God will let you believe anything you want to believe.
But he will not hold himself to take your beliefs and stamp his approval on them. Mine either for that matter.
The best way I know how, I'll stick with the Bible. I don't think it's a matter of believing whatever we want. The world doesn't care what we believe, it is what it is regardless of our belief.
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Just one final thought . . . . . . . . God will let you believe anything you want to believe.
But he will not hold himself to take your beliefs and stamp his approval on them. Mine either for that matter.
The best way I know how, I'll stick with the Bible. I don't think it's a matter of believing whatever we want. The world doesn't care what we believe, it is what it is regardless of our belief. Well said.
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The best way I know how, I'll stick with the Bible.
IF everyone narrowly thought like that we would not have the radial tubeless tire .nor jets in the air.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
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It's not the world that counts in the grand scheme of things, so believe what you want. I'm sure the Lord needs a good laugh once in a while.
"Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life." (Prov 4:23)
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The best way I know how, I'll stick with the Bible.
IF everyone narrowly thought like that we would not have the radial tubeless tire .nor jets in the air. You have no idea of how dumb and off key that you come off as being. Surely you say such things as this in jest.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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geriatric Toot, I know you struggle with ordinary things
So here's the child version:
"Folks brave enough to think outside the square
get things done"
Society owes nothing to superstitious village idiots
with a Bible.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
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It's not the world that counts in the grand scheme of things, so believe what you want. I'm sure the Lord needs a good laugh once in a while. The World is observable testable reality. The 'World' is the Universe. The gods are only concepts used to explain the World, the gods are neither observable or testable, they are believed on the basis of faith.
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geriatric Toot, I know you struggle with ordinary things
So here's the child version:
"Folks brave enough to think outside the square
get things done"
Society owes nothing to superstitious village idiots
with a Bible.
Your accomplishments? We know that you’re a two faced liar who went away only to sneak back in, crawling and using a sock puppet to do so. Integrity? Intelligence? You’re a pompous assed joke. And that’s being kind to you.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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geriatric Toot, I know you struggle with ordinary things
So here's the child version:
"Folks brave enough to think outside the square
get things done"
Society owes nothing to superstitious village idiots
with a Bible.
Your accomplishments? We know that you’re a two faced liar who went away only to sneak back in, crawling and using a sock puppet to do so. Integrity? Intelligence? You’re a pompous assed joke. And that’s being kind to you. Wow.... next time you get sick, how about staying at home praying instead of seeing the doctor. Make the world a better place.
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Toot sound like he's foaming at the mouth
with anger and rage, lost all rational sense.
Maybe he's having a revelation or just an
Alice in Wonderland mushroom experience.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
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geriatric Toot, I know you struggle with ordinary things
So here's the child version:
"Folks brave enough to think outside the square
get things done"
Society owes nothing to superstitious village idiots
with a Bible.
Your accomplishments? We know that you’re a two faced liar who went away only to sneak back in, crawling and using a sock puppet to do so. Integrity? Intelligence? You’re a pompous assed joke. And that’s being kind to you. Wow.... next time you get sick, how about staying at home praying instead of seeing the doctor. Make the world a better place. Yet another “heavy hitter “.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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Toot sound like he's foaming at the mouth
with anger and rage, lost all rational sense. One doesn’t need to rage or rail against phonies.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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geriatric Toot, I know you struggle with ordinary things
So here's the child version:
"Folks brave enough to think outside the square
get things done"
Society owes nothing to superstitious village idiots
with a Bible.
Your accomplishments? We know that you’re a two faced liar who went away only to sneak back in, crawling and using a sock puppet to do so. Integrity? Intelligence? You’re a pompous assed joke. And that’s being kind to you. Wow.... next time you get sick, how about staying at home praying instead of seeing the doctor. Make the world a better place. Or better yet, make an appointment with your optometrist.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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We know that you’re a two faced liar who went away only to sneak back in, crawling and using a sock puppet to do so....
How often do you chase the phantoms in your mind? Btw: who are these "we" people you talk of?
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
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geriatric Toot, I know you struggle with ordinary things
So here's the child version:
"Folks brave enough to think outside the square
get things done"
Society owes nothing to superstitious village idiots
with a Bible.
Your accomplishments? We know that you’re a two faced liar who went away only to sneak back in, crawling and using a sock puppet to do so. Integrity? Intelligence? You’re a pompous assed joke. And that’s being kind to you. Wow.... next time you get sick, how about staying at home praying instead of seeing the doctor. Make the world a better place. Yet another “heavy hitter “. Instead of just dealing with the argument, you are resorting to ad homs, offering insults instead of reasonable rebuttal. Why do that?
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geriatric Toot, I know you struggle with ordinary things
So here's the child version:
"Folks brave enough to think outside the square
get things done"
Society owes nothing to superstitious village idiots
with a Bible.
Your accomplishments? We know that you’re a two faced liar who went away only to sneak back in, crawling and using a sock puppet to do so. Integrity? Intelligence? You’re a pompous assed joke. And that’s being kind to you. Wow.... next time you get sick, how about staying at home praying instead of seeing the doctor. Make the world a better place. Or better yet, make an appointment with your optometrist. He might get upset if you even mention something touchy.....what would happen then?
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Instead of just dealing with the argument, you are resorting to ad homs, offering insults instead of reasonable rebuttal. Why do that?
Toot thinks he's caught a phantom, Just like those Xtians that got their Witch or heretic, now his village can celebrate. just imagine mystery authors with minds just like that formulating scripture and then passing it off as the true word of God.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
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