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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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Did you miss, “if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father “. ?

Your sail has no wind............you recall that I’m sure.


I like where it acknowledges the existence of other gods. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

In before 'buh that's metaphorical'.... even when it's in the same books describing other gods.



It would appear that you may have ‘other g*ds to follow?


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Quite a narrative that you’ve managed to construe.


like I said, it ain't my narrative , it's lifted
from Bible.




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Quite a narrative that you’ve managed to construe.


like I said, it ain't my narrative , it's lifted
from Bible.



You’re lonely and forgotten aren’t you?


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Toots got no rudder and no wind,
Just drifting aloft....


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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Did you miss, “if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father “. ?

Your sail has no wind............you recall that I’m sure.


I like where it acknowledges the existence of other gods. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

In before 'buh that's metaphorical'.... even when it's in the same books describing other gods.



It would appear that you may have ‘other g*ds to follow?


Unintelligible. I guess we've hit the point of your cognitive dissonance. Too scared to give it a thought eh?

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Did you miss, “if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father “. ?

Your sail has no wind............you recall that I’m sure.


I like where it acknowledges the existence of other gods. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

In before 'buh that's metaphorical'.... even when it's in the same books describing other gods.



It would appear that you may have ‘other g*ds to follow?


the God of sexually abusing a 6 year old boy


You concern me with your particular fascination with little boys. I mean... right out of no where.

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Originally Posted by Starman
Toots got no rudder and no wind,
Just drifting aloft....


Wellll, you put out enough hot air and flatulence to move all of our boats around and blow us off course.

It’s enough for you to know that I’m here for you when the dark days come as surely they will.

Pax, Starman .


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Originally Posted by bannination
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Did you miss, “if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father “. ?

Your sail has no wind............you recall that I’m sure.


I like where it acknowledges the existence of other gods. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

In before 'buh that's metaphorical'.... even when it's in the same books describing other gods.



It would appear that you may have ‘other g*ds to follow?


Unintelligible. I guess we've hit the point of your cognitive dissonance. Too scared to give it a thought eh?



As mentioned earlier, you are quite comical. I can appreciate that in a man.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Starman
Toots got no rudder and no wind,
Just drifting aloft....


Wellll, you put out enough hot air and flatulence to move all of our boats around and blow us off course.

It’s enough for you to know that I’m here for you when the dark days come as surely they will.

Pax, Starman .


This^^^


Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

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Originally Posted by Old_Toot



As mentioned earlier, you are quite comical. I can appreciate that in a man.


Doesn't it bother you that your brain is trying to take the topic to anything else other than what the topic actually is? I know man... I've been there, I feel ya.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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Toots got no rudder and no wind,
Just drifting aloft....


... enough hot air and flatulence to move all of our boats around and blow us off course.


How do you get blown off course with No wind?

You are prime example of Re: village idiot with a Bible.


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Why are you not a christian? Well it isn't atheists who: practice shunning, conduct witch trials, engaged in 250 years of the crusades, over 200 years of the spanish inquisition, the endless wars of eastern europe, wars with the Ottomans, the conversion, rape, slavery and robbery of central and south america, oh, and let us not forget africa. Quite a track record for christianity eh?


Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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Christians demonstrate the nature of their tolerance and love on this forum by abusing and flaming anyone who dares to question faith. It doesn't say much for religion or faith as a means to peace and harmony, that's for sure.

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Christians demonstrate the nature of their tolerance and love on this forum by abusing and flaming anyone who dares to question faith. It doesn't say much for religion or faith as a means to peace and harmony, that's for sure.


... and I can hear the argument now.... "Well those people aren't true christians™. " In that respect, I agree with the christians that would make that argument.

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Christians demonstrate the nature of their tolerance and love on this forum by abusing and flaming anyone who dares to question faith. It doesn't say much for religion or faith as a means to peace and harmony, that's for sure.


... and I can hear the argument now.... "Well those people aren't true christians™. " In that respect, I agree with the christians that would make that argument.



Yet they call themselves Christians and think of themselves as Christians. That is the sad part.

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Christians demonstrate the nature of their tolerance and love on this forum by abusing and flaming anyone who dares to question faith. It doesn't say much for religion or faith as a means to peace and harmony, that's for sure.


... and I can hear the argument now.... "Well those people aren't true christians™. " In that respect, I agree with the christians that would make that argument.



Yet they call themselves Christians and think of themselves as Christians. That is the sad part.




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Why are you not a christian? Well it isn't atheists who: practice shunning, conduct witch trials, engaged in 250 years of the crusades, over 200 years of the spanish inquisition, the endless wars of eastern europe, wars with the Ottomans, the conversion, rape, slavery and robbery of central and south america, oh, and let us not forget africa. Quite a track record for christianity eh?



What’s your track record?


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Originally Posted by Starman
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Toots got no rudder and no wind,
Just drifting aloft....


... enough hot air and flatulence to move all of our boats around and blow us off course.


How do you get blown off course with No wind?

You are prime example of Re: village idiot with a Bible.



Quite a compliment from a pseudo, self important intellectual such as yourself..


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Mr Toot, As a veteran, I find war abhorrent, as a human being that aspires to live by the golden rule, I find that religious war and overt action to convert heathens to christianity, totally unconscionable.


Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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An easy answer, the bible is a collection of books written by man, not God, and compiled by man, not God, in order to meet the needs of the people in power, Constantine, et al, as a way of controlling the masses, providing a value system and identity, ie, being a Christian.

Of course, the Jews disagreed. Jesus was not their promised Messiah, the Muslims have their own prophet... to mention a few problems with faith.


When is an answer not an answer?


Did you fail to understand what I said? It appears that way.


Oh no.
I am not saying you are not citing valid points
Perhaps even undeniable truths....

I am just not certain it is an answer. Not a "why" if you will ..

But I wasn't going to put additional untyped words into your response.
I might suggest that that just because you don't necessarily agree with the promulgators of the story, doesn't mean that you cannot derive any enjoyment nor value from the story.

Just my take..


The OP question was - why are you not a Christian - and I gave an outline of the reasons why the bible and its claims are problematic.

If you don't agree with what I said, you should address the outlined reasons instead of dismissing it with a flippant comment.


If you’ve not read Mark Taylor’s “The History of The Bible “, pick up a copy. You’d probably enjoy it.


OT,

Mark Taylor's a common name.

This this the Mark Taylor you are talking about?

https://www.bibleconcepts.com/erics...y-others/prophetic-words-by-mark-taylor/

“Mark Taylor, a retired fireman from Florida began to receive messages supernaturally from God in 2011. The first one was that Donald Trump would be raised by God to become President of the United States. The prophecy detailed as to why God was going to do that. Since then, Mark has received about a dozen more prophetic words, many of which have begun to unfold on target. Examples are that the USA would become energy independent, the elimination of ISIS, and the replacement of 5 Supreme Court Justices. We have posted his prophecies here with his name and a few brief comments in brackets to aid in understanding the prophecies. He has also co-authored a book with Mary Colbert called, “The Trump Prophecies”, which details the background of all of his messages up to the date of publication. It is a very encouraging “must read” to help get a good grasp on what God is doing at this time. It is very different than the traditional religious gloom & doom that we’ve been taught.”


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by flintlocke
Mr Toot, As a veteran, I find war abhorrent, as a human being that aspires to live by the golden rule, I find that religious war and overt action to convert heathens to christianity, totally unconscionable.



Commendable.


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