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Hastings,

I appreciate you trying to return some civility to this thread.

Enough of this Fussing and Fighting, let's have a sing along and a group hug.
There is more that unites us than divides us (so they say).
Don't cheat, you must listen to the whole thing!

That's much more reasonable.

I never aim comments at a poster unless they become insulting first. The issue is that there are a few Christians on the forum who quickly resort to cowardly insults and flaming whenever anyone questions faith. They show complete intolerance to reasonable and open inquiry.

It appears that misery does indeed love company. Dang, I’d hate to wake up in your world. Seriously now, I’m not trying to be mean, not at all. Just sayin. Must be a west of the Mississippi thing? Somethings wrong out there.

Would you like to address the argument I made, or do you have nothing constructive to add?

Its just ad homs and innuendo from beginning to end.

I certainly don’t, or at least I shouldn’t get aggravated over mere questions. No doubt....but the dialogue needs to be kept respectful. To say that your side can be insulting is an understatement. Some of the comments are off the chain. And directed at some of the finest people on this earth, that are trying to make a difference in the world. That is complete bs. Are you all not aware of the efforts that are being made to help others in need? Perhaps that is not going on in your neck of the woods? It certainly is here, and on a grand scale. Again, I’ll push back when we are pushed first.

There is sniping from both sides, but as I said, I never direct comments at poster unless they attack first, and then I point out what they are doing. I stick to the issues with faith as I see it until that point.

I don't doubt that many of the posters are fine people, but some in fact do appear to forget their manners and their sense of tolerance to other points of view when their faith is questioned, no matter how reasonably or respectfully.

It is the mere challenge to faith that sets them off. And once set off, they do not appear to be the fine people that they normally are.

That is the problem. The Jekyll and Hyde transformation when challenged.

That reminds me of the behavior of a former, prominent member. He's a very experiences hunter and shooter, so he experienced a great level of deference from members. used to people just taking his work for things. He was pretty miffed when the same tactic didn't work in the religious threads and people would actually ask him for evidence, and expect him to meet a burden of proof. He became right down haughty, and indigent. It was sad but humorous all at the same time.

Typical moronic strawman by a religion thread troll.

Did I see a thread of fire brothers postin bout Mo, I'd just pass it by.

Because I'm not a self-centered tention ho troll, like you.

I wouldn't jump in the thread with lame posts deridin the guy, just to piss off the people tryin ta have an intelligent discussion.

Because I'm not a self-centered tention ho troll, like you.

And if for some reason, I *did* decide to engage in the thread, I wouldn't be demandin that everbody there cater to a lack of intellect by claimin that Mo's existence hasta be proved to me, to my satisfaction.

Because I'm not a self-centered tention ho troll, like you.

But 99.9% of the time, I'd just let it pass, and let the OP and the participants share their ideas without disturbin em.

Because I'm not a self-centered tention ho troll, like you.

You and the other religiotrolls just can't resist insertin their stupidity to try and derail a legitimate discussion.

Either the subject scares the crap outta ya, for some unknown reason, or ya got a compulsion, like EBT.

Pathetic.

So, what stage did ya get to, fore ya gave up and posted?

Start ta twitch?

facial tick?

Sweat?

Then all ya can do is whine cause somebody pointed out what as @sshole you are.

And that's not an ad hominem argument. It's just a simple observation describing your posts on the thread. No different than pointin out ya got two eyes. Just a description of a characteristic.

Troll a thread, ya get called out on it.

Fubarski my Muslim friend,

It's not a straw-man, It's a simple demonstration of why the burden of proof is on the positive claim. If we apply your line of reasoning to Islam, you MUST accept it until you can prove it's false.

If you want to have a rational discussion with out all the insults and name calling, we can do that, but it seems you are unable to. Looking through your posts in this thread all I see is insults and outrage.

Enjoy your new religion, it seems much more aligned with your personality.

I believe Jesus even though the accounts of his life and teachings have been edited, redacted, and even interpreted by an "apostle" who by his own account seems to have never met Jesus except in visions. I believe there was enough got by the censors that I know his message and teachings. I wish some of my fellow believers would read their own posts and beliefs and see if they come away feeling harmony with Jesus' teachings. Try the site Jesuswordsonly.

Simpleton.

If you're going to troll a thread disparaging the beliefs of others, the burden shifts to you.

Least you know your limitations. You can't, and never will, be able to produce an argument proving that the sincere beliefs of fire members aren't accurate.

So you have no legitimate purpose in the threads, except to stir shat like any tention ho.

Pointing out your constant trollery is no more ad hominem than pointing out that the sky is blue.

Your claims of victimhood when exposed for the troll you are, are the natural progression of the SJW shtick, which you follow religiously.

Don't like bein called oout as a troll, don't be a troll.

If you had a sound evidence base for your beliefs, you could just point toward your good evidence. But since you don't have any, you can't and instead, we get posts from you like the one above. I suggest you take a few minutes to review your "contribution" to this thread. A lot of insults, offense and outrage, but no thoughtful contributions.

Here's a primer for you on the Null Hypothesis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_hypothesis

It's typically covered in a Junior or Senior level science class, so I would understand if you are not familiar with it.

If you're going to allege that there's no higher being, then *you've* got the burden to prove that.

Now here's a link for *you*.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

You keep tryin for Socratic, but end up lookin moronic.

Fubarski,

If you'd been paying attention you would know I don't see good evidence for any supernatural beings. The thousands of gods, including your, just happen to fall into category.



Beyond your God, what other supernatural beings, do you believe in?

Why?

Then there's no need for you to post in threads discussing supernatural beings.

All ya gotta do is STFU, easiest thing in the world ta do.

But you can't.

Because you're a SJW tention ho troll, don't matter which, tryin ta save the world from people of faith, or gettin jollies from people who respond on the net.

Maybe someday you get enough attention at home, you won't feel the need ta troll the fire.

Nope, the Christian has no burden of proof. We have a responsibility to witness and tell. The proof is the responsibility of the Holy Spirit.

As,I have said many times, God will not hold me accountable for “failing to prove Jesus” to anybody.

But, there is no pass. I expect that at judgment, God may indeed “roll the videotape” so-to-speak and clearly show the unbeliever all the times that God showed Himself.

You can indeed chose to believe what you like. You really do have that choice and you really can reject the truth about Jesus.

But, prove it? Who is better at communicating to you..... me or God?

Remember, one’s pride can get in the way and they can willfully stick your fingers in their ears.... and they can continue to say that “God hasn’t proven himself to me.”

Won’t work.....