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When they offer one in second focal plane & moa I'll buy one.
I know they discontinued the SFP MOA 5-15, so the 3-9 probably ain't gonna happen.
But this old buzzard still wants SFP & MOA.
I will live with the 20 ozs. if the tracking they are said to have is there. I just want them the old way.????????????
BTW, I have a flip phone.
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If stuck in the Ice Age, the NF SHV 3-10x FP may be more to your liking. It's SFP and MOA, which is why I'll never own one.
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I know, Nightforce has my number for specs, just not my budget.
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The ice age, funny. I'm in the Rockies in the 1970's taking game with a SFP, back again in the 1980's, same. oops, back again in the 90's ........same. The Rockies must have done a hell of a flip flop,now requiring FFP & metrics.
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I think you should just buy the current 3-9x MQ, see it and handle it for yourself, then if you absolutely can't deal with FFP and mils, then send the sucker back. You'd be out shipping costs. Small price to pay, instead of waiting until infinity for SFWA to make your SFP MOA scope
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Good point, 4th point, them building a sfp probably ain't gonna happen. Thought about what you say. A tough as hell & dependable scope from all reports.
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They are excellent scopes. If you try it, I think you will like it.
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Busted here, but how about Greek to me, can't grasp it, & not about to get into it with, the mathman. Too; old, dumb,, stubborn to grasp or keep up with it all.
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Because they’re accepted as the SI unit of angular measure.
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Or, how about the metric system makes MUCH MORE sense than the American standard system. Given its different and a bit odd to use at first but whenever I build something I find centimeters and millimeters much easier than fractions of an inch.
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When they offer one in second focal plane & moa I'll buy one. I know they discontinued the SFP MOA 5-15, so the 3-9 probably ain't gonna happen. But this old buzzard still wants SFP & MOA. I will live with the 20 ozs. if the tracking they are said to have is there. I just want them the old way.???????????? BTW, I have a flip phone. A Fuucckin' Men Gunzo......except I have a 10 year old Motorola "smart phone"......
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Don't overthink that mil thing. Just get it, use it and move according to distances, and don't worry how to break down the process. All you have to remember, is that the mil is about .3 inches of movement at 100 yards. Do the math, when you move out farther. I don't like MOA anymore. I do have one scope left, that is MOA, but it is drop compensated, so I don't use the dial much.
I don't have the 3x9, but I have several 6 and 10x and they do everything that I need.
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Good point, 4th point, them building a sfp probably ain't gonna happen. Thought about what you say. A tough as hell & dependable scope from all reports.
There was a similar situation a couple months ago where one of the members here was interested in the SWFA scopes, but wasn't 100% sure. My suggestion was that he try a 6x with MQ reticle, as it would be a low cost experiment. I figured he could try it, on his rifle, and if it didn't work out for him he could sell it used for $200+. I sold him one of my Black Friday specials, so the risk was minimal. Turns out that he liked mil-mil and the reticle, and bought two more. The 6x might be a good option for you as well. Wait for one of the sales, or buy one from the SampleList at SWFA to save a few bucks. The 3-9x is a great scope, if you're still leaning that direction.
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I don't know if radians are, but milliradians certainly are.....you know, based on factors of ten and all that.....
...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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Because they’re accepted as the SI unit of angular measure. Huh, now I’m beginning to wonder what the definition of a “Mathman” is...😱😂
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A radian is a radian, period. It can be called metric if it's adopted as part of that system.
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Guys,, I was just bitchin. I probably could get the hang of it, but just dread it, or don't really want to. Dealing with one or 3 scopes in mil, & throw them in amongst 2 dozen scopes in moa just seems like it would be a cluster flop. I've beaten this horse before.
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Guys,, I was just bitchin. I probably could get the hang of it, but just dread it, or don't really want to. Dealing with one or 3 scopes in mil, & throw them in amongst 2 dozen scopes in moa just seems like it would be a cluster flop. I've beaten this horse before.
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