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Christians desperately trying to join dots between material benevolence and the spiritual realm?
same folks that think a human blood sacrifice provides them eternal life.
get a load of this ritualistic nonsense:
“.. I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood,
you do not have life within you,” [John 6:53]
You’re the one that sounds desperate here. As always. I have to say that you sound constantly upset. I'm not attacking you, it's just an impression based on the tone of your posts. I, too, have an impression of you.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
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Here’s another for you American non believers.
You have NO inalienable rights. None. De facto and directly so.
Reason :
According to our 13 Forefathers and original document signers, those specific, inalienable rights were bestowed upon us by our Cre*tor in whom you do not believe. He does not exist according to you. Ergo,,,,,,,,,,,,.
You Australians live and survive on negative freedoms.
That should get the party started, I’m thinking. Correct. The only rights you have, are those you can defend. If our rights were granted and maintained by a supernatural being there would be no need for a Second Amendment, or for that matter, any other... Bit of a stretch. We’re a nation of laws. Those laws protect and are guaranteed to us. One day we may well have to defend them and it has the appearance of being fairly close as time goes by. According to a few here it seems our forefathers and Constitution framers, bill of rights authors were little more than superstitious dolts who had their heads,,,full of phantoms. Pick up a copy of Federer’s book, “Faith in History “. You may not agree, Sniper but I think you’d enjoy the read. Come on OT. I in no way besmirched the framers of our Constitution. If the rights detailed within were "God Given", why did it cost us 5,500 American lives to secure them from England? No supernatural being "gave" them to us, we took them with gunpowder and lead, and have defended at the cost of the lives of many patriots since. Our rights were secured by the blood of patriots. It's to them we should give our thanks.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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The constitution makes no reference to a "God"
and DOI uses non-sectarian terminologies in
reference to a divinity.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
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Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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Here’s another for you American non believers.
You have NO inalienable rights. None. De facto and directly so.
Reason :
According to our 13 Forefathers and original document signers, those specific, inalienable rights were bestowed upon us by our Cre*tor in whom you do not believe. He does not exist according to you. Ergo,,,,,,,,,,,,.
You Australians live and survive on negative freedoms.
That should get the party started, I’m thinking. Correct. The only rights you have, are those you can defend. If our rights were granted and maintained by a supernatural being there would be no need for a Second Amendment, or for that matter, any other... Bit of a stretch. We’re a nation of laws. Those laws protect and are guaranteed to us. One day we may well have to defend them and it has the appearance of being fairly close as time goes by. According to a few here it seems our forefathers and Constitution framers, bill of rights authors were little more than superstitious dolts who had their heads,,,full of phantoms. Pick up a copy of Federer’s book, “Faith in History “. You may not agree, Sniper but I think you’d enjoy the read. Come on OT. I in no way besmirched the framers of our Constitution. If the rights detailed within were "God Given", why did it cost us 5,500 American lives to secure them from England? No supernatural being "gave" them to us, we took them with gunpowder and lead, and have defended at the cost of the lives of many patriots since. Our rights were secured by the blood of patriots. It's to them we should give our thanks. Others have said as much about any believer, you haven’t been as heavy handed as such.
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Here’s another for you American non believers.
You have NO inalienable rights. None. De facto and directly so.
Reason :
According to our 13 Forefathers and original document signers, those specific, inalienable rights were bestowed upon us by our Cre*tor in whom you do not believe. He does not exist according to you. Ergo,,,,,,,,,,,,.
You Australians live and survive on negative freedoms.
That should get the party started, I’m thinking. Correct. The only rights you have, are those you can defend. If our rights were granted and maintained by a supernatural being there would be no need for a Second Amendment, or for that matter, any other... Bit of a stretch. We’re a nation of laws. Those laws protect and are guaranteed to us. One day we may well have to defend them and it has the appearance of being fairly close as time goes by. According to a few here it seems our forefathers and Constitution framers, bill of rights authors were little more than superstitious dolts who had their heads,,,full of phantoms. Pick up a copy of Federer’s book, “Faith in History “. You may not agree, Sniper but I think you’d enjoy the read. Come on OT. I in no way besmirched the framers of our Constitution. If the rights detailed within were "God Given", why did it cost us 5,500 American lives to secure them from England? No supernatural being "gave" them to us, we took them with gunpowder and lead, and have defended at the cost of the lives of many patriots since. Our rights were secured by the blood of patriots. It's to them we should give our thanks. God uses people to fulfill his missions. That said...Of course we should be grateful to our patriot soldiers. We should be grateful to God too. Look at all he provides for us.
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The constitution makes no reference to a "God"
and DOI uses non-sectarian terminologies in
reference to a divinity. Try the Declaration, Bill of Rights. Try opening each session with prayer and closing with the same.
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God uses people to fulfill his missions. That said...Of course we should be grateful to our patriot soldiers. We should be grateful to God too. Look at all he provides for us.
All people do the will of God whether they realize it or not?
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God uses people to fulfill his missions. That said...Of course we should be grateful to our patriot soldiers. We should be grateful to God too. Look at all he provides for us.
All people do the will of God whether they realize it or not? Nope. Free will misuse cause train wrecks. You still chumming with your questions, apparently.
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The constitution makes no reference to a "God"
and DOI uses non-sectarian terminologies in
reference to a divinity. Take out the humble penny and read both sides, dollar bill, too. Shouldn’t be too hard for even someone like yourself.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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The constitution makes no reference to a "God"
and DOI uses non-sectarian terminologies in
reference to a divinity. Take out the humble penny and read both sides, dollar bill, too. Shouldn’t be too hard for even someone like yourself. And when was that added??
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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The constitution makes no reference to a "God"
and DOI uses non-sectarian terminologies in
reference to a divinity. Take out the humble penny and read both sides, dollar bill, too. Shouldn’t be too hard for even someone like yourself. And when was that added?? That matters?
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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The constitution makes no reference to a "God"
and DOI uses non-sectarian terminologies in
reference to a divinity. Take out the humble penny and read both sides, dollar bill, too. Shouldn’t be too hard for even someone like yourself. And when was that added?? That matters? This country wasn't founded in 1957, so no, it doesn't support your argument that our republic somehow proves your God.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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Don’t go dbt , there.
“Certain inalienable rights bestowed upon us by our Cre*tor” wasn’t written in 1957.
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Don’t go dbt , there.
“Certain inalienable rights bestowed upon us by our Cre*tor” wasn’t written in 1957. We were talking about "In God we Trust" on currency. It wasn't added to the dollar bill until 1957.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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Don’t go dbt , there.
“Certain inalienable rights bestowed upon us by our Cre*tor” wasn’t written in 1957. We were talking about "In God we Trust" on currency. It wasn't added to the dollar bill until 1957. We’ve been talking about a lot of things and different eras. You want to address the “Inalienable Rights “ thing, date, era, what that writing preceded? Or, we can go back to 1957z
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Don’t go dbt , there.
“Certain inalienable rights bestowed upon us by our Cre*tor” wasn’t written in 1957. We were talking about "In God we Trust" on currency. It wasn't added to the dollar bill until 1957. We’ve been talking about a lot of things and different eras. You want to address the “Inalienable Rights “ thing, date, era, what that writing preceded? Or, we can go back to 1957z No, You brought up "Inalienable Right", not me, then attempted to claim "In God we Trust" added to our bills in 1957 is somehow related to our "foundational documents", and therefore proves your supernatural beliefs...... Your whole concept of "inalienable right" that can be taken away by the "free will" of Tyrants is, in and of itself, pretty contradictory.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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The constitution makes no reference to a "God"
and DOI uses non-sectarian terminologies in
reference to a divinity. Take out the humble penny and read both sides, dollar bill, too. Shouldn’t be too hard for even someone like yourself. And when was that added?? Don’t go dbt , there.
“Certain inalienable rights bestowed upon us by our Cre*tor” wasn’t written in 1957. We were talking about "In God we Trust" on currency. It wasn't added to the dollar bill until 1957. We’ve been talking about a lot of things and different eras. You want to address the “Inalienable Rights “ thing, date, era, what that writing preceded? Or, we can go back to 1957z No, You brought up "Inalienable Right", not me, then attempted to claim "In God we Trust" added to our bills in 1957 is somehow related to our "foundational documents", and therefore proves your supernatural beliefs...... Your whole concept of "inalienable right" that can be taken away by the "free will" of Tyrants is, in and of itself, pretty contradictory. We do agree on the tyrants and misusing of free will. Whether you or anybody else likes it or not, they are related, “supernatural beliefs”, et. al. I’ll be back to you. I just got a line on some needed boat parts. Keep a tight line on it and don’t let that tar baby stick to you.
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The constitution makes no reference to a "God"
and DOI uses non-sectarian terminologies in
reference to a divinity. Take out the humble penny and read both sides, dollar bill, too. Shouldn’t be too hard for even someone like yourself. And when was that added?? Don’t go dbt , there.
“Certain inalienable rights bestowed upon us by our Cre*tor” wasn’t written in 1957. We were talking about "In God we Trust" on currency. It wasn't added to the dollar bill until 1957. We’ve been talking about a lot of things and different eras. You want to address the “Inalienable Rights “ thing, date, era, what that writing preceded? Or, we can go back to 1957z No, You brought up "Inalienable Right", not me, then attempted to claim "In God we Trust" added to our bills in 1957 is somehow related to our "foundational documents", and therefore proves your supernatural beliefs...... Your whole concept of "inalienable right" that can be taken away by the "free will" of Tyrants is, in and of itself, pretty contradictory. We do agree on the tyrants and misusing of free will. Whether you or anybody else likes it or not, they are related, “supernatural beliefs”, et. al. I’ll be back to you. I just got a line on some needed boat parts. Keep a tight line on it and don’t let that tar baby stick to you. Alright, have a good night. I have one small project to finish up tonight as well.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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You brought up "Inalienable Right", not me, then attempted to claim "In God we Trust" added to our bills in 1957 is somehow related to our "foundational documents",...
Toots floundering on the quarterdeck. ...Of course we should be grateful to our patriot soldiers. We should be grateful to God too. Look at all he provides for us.
What happened to "ALL glory be to God on high"..? Your God is a jealous God that's wants it all.
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