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so jX cannot provide verse which shows "sweating in hell", just more waffle.


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Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Jesus didn't believe in hell either - his christian mate descendants molested the bible to include it, helped to draw the masses in I believe


You can go to hell for lying. wink It is written: I am not in a liar.

Jesus talked about hell more than any other person in the Bible. In Luke 16, he describes a great chasm over which “none may cross from there to us.” In Matthew 25, Jesus tells of a time when people will be separated into two groups, one entering into his presence, the other banished to “eternal fire.”

Jesus talks about hell more than he talks about heaven, and describes it more vividly. There’s no denying that Jesus knew, believed, and warned against the absolute reality of hell.


Jesus doesn’t only reference hell, he describes it in great detail. He says it is a place of eternal torment

(Luke 16:23), of unquenchable fire (Mark 9:43), where the worm does not die (Mark 9:48), where people

will gnash their teeth in anguish and regret (Matt. 13:42), and from which there is no return, even to warn

loved ones (Luke 16:19–31). He calls hell a place of “outer darkness” (Matt. 25:30), comparing it to

“Gehenna” (Matt. 10:28), which was a trash dump outside the walls of Jerusalem where rubbish was

burned and maggots abounded. Jesus talks about hell more than he talks about heaven,




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Originally Posted by Starman
so jX cannot provide verse which shows "sweating in hell", just more waffle.


Hahaha.


Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

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Originally Posted by jaguartx
He calls hell a place of “outer darkness” (Matt. 25:30),


a place full of flames is shrouded in darkness?


Originally Posted by jaguartx

Jesus doesn’t only reference hell, he describes it in great detail. He says it is a place of eternal torment

(Luke 16:23), (Mark 9:48), (Matt. 13:42), (Luke 16:19–31). (Matt. 25:30), (Matt. 10:28),



Thats not verifiably Jesus saying/writing such , since the Gospels are by unknown authors.


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The mutiple editors of the bible never really got together to collaberate a coherent story so that's why it's the dog's breakfast that it is. Parable writing method tries to smother over the inconsistencies I guess but fails upon closer scrutiny and application of logic and historic findings.

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Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.

That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.

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Scripture fails a lot tests, that I can accept all things considered.

but nonsense goes to a new level when people
then attempt to usewhat is already ambiguous,
subjective and unverifiable, and spin / twist it
in all kinds of irrational if not absurd ways.


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jaguartx:

I think it's great you can quote a book, but why should I believe your particular book and not someone else's?

What empirical evidence do you have that your book is for real and every other book is false -- I need this criteria before I can accept you are correct.

This is serious business because according to you I'm going to burn for eternity. Surely there is a substantial amount of criteria to determine fairy tale from reality, right?

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I will not get after anyone, Lord Jesus loves us all. All He asks is to take Him up on the Greatest Bargain in the history of the world.


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Before a god can say anything he must exist, for which I see no good evidence.
I see no good evidence that He doesn’t exist.


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Originally Posted by bannination
jaguartx:

I think it's great you can quote a book, but why should I believe your particular book and not someone else's?

What empirical evidence do you have that your book is for real and every other book is false -- I need this criteria before I can accept you are correct.

This is serious business because according to you I'm going to burn for eternity. Surely there is a substantial amount of criteria to determine fairy tale from reality, right?


You shouldn't.

You should prolly go muzzy. 72 virgins, you know. smile

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Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

Or it might have a little something to do with their IQ:



why throw a wet blanket on wild conspiracies and
primitive myth prophecies?


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Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by bannination
jaguartx:

I think it's great you can quote a book, but why should I believe your particular book and not someone else's?

What empirical evidence do you have that your book is for real and every other book is false -- I need this criteria before I can accept you are correct.

This is serious business because according to you I'm going to burn for eternity. Surely there is a substantial amount of criteria to determine fairy tale from reality, right?


You shouldn't.

You should prolly go muzzy. 72 virgins, you know. smile


Too closely related to Christianity for my taste. So why do you believe when you have no facts or evidence? More importantly why do you believe in a particular thing?

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Originally Posted by bannination

What empirical evidence do you have that your book is for real and every other book is false --


Fubarski is one the most logical Intel. Christians here
Not even he could present a sound case that proves all
other God's false.


Originally Posted by antlers
I see no good evidence that He doesn’t exist.


Nor good evidence others gods don't also exist.

.... lest you can surprise us




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Originally Posted by antlers
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Before a god can say anything he must exist, for which I see no good evidence.
I see no good evidence that He doesn’t exist.



Check and mate. Logic prevails.



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Originally Posted by lvmiker
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Before a god can say anything he must exist, for which I see no good evidence.
I see no good evidence that He doesn’t exist.



Check and mate. Logic prevails.



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I see no evidence that Santas doesn't exist either


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Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.

That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.

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Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
The mutiple editors of the bible never really got together to collaberate a coherent story so that's why it's the dog's breakfast that it is. Parable writing method tries to smother over the inconsistencies I guess but fails upon closer scrutiny and application of logic and historic findings.


Try again why Jesus used parables. He says if He did not people would understand and He would have to save them. Read Mark 4.


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Originally Posted by bannination
jaguartx:

I think it's great you can quote a book, but why should I believe your particular book and not someone else's?

What empirical evidence do you have that your book is for real and every other book is false -- I need this criteria before I can accept you are correct.

This is serious business because according to you I'm going to burn for eternity. Surely there is a substantial amount of criteria to determine fairy tale from reality, right?


The most documented legal historical evidence prior to the printing press is the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus. Do some research.


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I've never read the bible, but that sounds like a cruel excuse. How do you know which bits Jesus was supposed to have written?


Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by Raspy
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.

That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.

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Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by bannination

What empirical evidence do you have that your book is for real and every other book is false --


Fubarski is one the most logical Intel. Christians here
Not even he could present a sound case that proves all
other God's false.


Originally Posted by antlers
I see no good evidence that He doesn’t exist.


Nor good evidence others gods don't also exist.

.... lest you can surprise us




Oh, but they do.

Problem is, they cant save you. You want to return as a cow rather than continue being an ass next time?


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The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

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