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The term Glock is Austrian for Hi-Point! Be Well, Rustyzipper.

Nah, you already ran this one way past productive discussion into full on straw man arguments and selective reading comprehension.

I'll try to make this clear since you don't seem inclined to understand:

I said there is an argument (not even that it's my argument) for not using bright night sights. There are people specifically choosing dimmer night sights for that reason. I did not say it was an argument for not using night sights at all, that was your own misinterpretation of what I said, even though the point of that post was that night sights are useful. I use night sights and a light on my bedside gun.

You also still don't seem to grasp that the reflected light from a bright set of night sights can be visible on your hands, face, clothing, etc without a direct line of sight to the tritium vials. Someone doesn't have to be behind you to see that. You know so much, you should be able to figure that out on your own, but then again maybe you think every scenario involves running through a dark building with your weapon light on.

Some of you city boys are really special.

Well if anyone here is an expert on exposing themselves, it'd be you.

You're a poser.

Try Reddit.

I'm quite sure that he has a much better grasp than you do. Bluedreaux chases bad guys for a living and shoots competitively in the top class of shooters

All you do is argue about crsp that you are clueless on. Just like when you tried to tell me that my 45 Super wasn't set up correctly and one of the best gunsmiths in the world set mine up

You doubled down again when you shoul
have folded

Lmao. that will get get the fan base all pissy.
Kind of like pulling out a canik tp9 series .

LOL. And you are still butthurt about my disagreeing with you a couple years ago. Some people are really sensitive. I spoke from experience, and if you don't like it, get over it. I don't really care, but get tired of you following me around to chime into whatever disagreement pops up.

You seem to a much higher opinion of Bleudreaux and deflave than I do. Both of them have a solid history of giving advice about things they know very little about, by their own admissions.

No way will an idiot ever cause me any but hurt. Simply pointing out how full of crap you are and you arrogance is exceeded only by your BS

And I'm calling BS on your 1,000 RSS every month as well

I can guaran-damn-tee I got more experience working in the dark and shooting a pistol than you ever will.

Like I said before, try Reddit.

Yonderling, it is easy to spot the posers. You remind me of Lee24

Yonderling tells us how many have given their position away because of night sights? And show the source. I'll hang up and listen

i hear ya viking. only way for that to happen is if somebody is behind you. better clean them ears out so you can hear 'em slippin' up on ya ha! i personally have went with ameriglo hackathorn sights on my g26 and g19,about to order a set for my g17 and g43,due to the fact they have a blacked out rear sight with a bright orange daylight viz paint around the tritium green dot front.i've always been a 3 white dot night sights on my glocks but have seen the way now. not that there is anything wrong with the 3 dot sights. i just been trying to work on faster target acquisition and the 1 orange front sigth dot has helped and i've noticed absolutely no accuracy drop off. ALWAYS focus on the front sight.
Big Ed

Once you go Sig or S&W M&P 2.0....................................you'll never go back to Gluck.

MM

But if you ever try a Gen 5, you might end up with more Glocks than M&P's or Sigs...

I did!

I have a 19x, & it is the best of 5 Glucks that I own & it's OK, better trigger than the G3 or G4.

Glucks are fine guns if you like them & they fit for you; I shoot them just fine & they are surely reliable, but I hate getting my trigger finger chewed up in a long range session, they are the least accurate / precise of the 3 under discussion.

My EDC is now a Sig 229 SAO & it's more comfortable in my hand than Glucks by a long shot & is much more a precision shooter, in part due to the SAO trigger, & I can shoot it all day & still feel my trigger finger at the end of the day........................I love 1911's, & the Sig is an "updated 1911" with more mag capacity.

Before the SIg came along, for the last 18 months or so, I've been carrying a 2.0 version of the M&P & I still really like it, much better than the Glucks, not as much as the Sig. And it, also, is more accurate / precise than the Glucks.............& all my Glucks have been tuned & have better than average triggers.

But none of the Gluck triggers, including the G5 version, are as good as the S&W 2.0 or the Sig.

I'll still use a Gluck occasionally, especially my G27 as a jacket pocket gun when needed, but other than that, they'll get relegated to a lower tier status for me. Sigs, M&P's, 1911's & Beretta's will all get more use than the Glucks.

The best thing about the Glucks is that, except for 1911's, there's more parts available for Glucks than anything else to personalize them as you choose.................but for me, that's not enough.

FWIW, JMHO, YMMV

MM

No worries, I've been carrying a 2.0C for a couple of years now. I have another one that is my practice gun and a 1.0 in 45acp. I hated the hinged trigger and put Apex kits in all of mine. Had a couple of full size guns and a CORE along with 3 Shields. My wife has a 22 compact too.

But I started shooting the G45, then a G17 MOS, then a G43 and now a G44. There are a few things I prefer on them over the 2.0's but my 2.0's aren't going anywhere. I did sell my Sig 228 a few weeks ago, very accurate but slower on a timer so I will replace it with a G19.5 pretty soon. The only thing I'll change on the Grocks is the sights.

I do have a soft spot for 1911's too but that's my problem, I like most all pistols in every caliber. We have some good choices available today.

Yes, the choices today are really staggering................besides the ones we've been discussing, there are lots of great guns from H-K, Walther, Ruger & Springfield, just to name a few.

Different people have different wants & feel in a gun & given all the options today, virtually everyone should be able find something that fits & that they are comfortable with.

And they pretty much all work, just a matter of personal preference...............some stuff like Sig, S&W & Gluck are maybe a little more proven over time.

My Glucks aren't going anywhere either as they're not eating much right now.

MM

Between competition and classes, I’ve put about 30k rounds through Glocks over the last 6-7 years. Here’s what I’ve learned:

Ammo matters. Find what your pistols shoot best and stick to that. Duty-grade JHP tends to be the most accurate, regularly putting five shots into 2” or less at 25 yards. Flat-point FMJ is almost as good. A lot of round-nose FMJ is junk, but good round-nose FMJ is good for about 4” at 25 yards. I’ve had excellent luck with American Eagle 124- and 147-grain ammo out to 100 yards, although Federal recently changed the 147 to something that’s not as accurate beyond 25 yards. S&B is also uniformly excellent. The heavier weights tend to group better in Glocks.

Avoid aftermarket Glock triggers—almost none of them are proven reliable for the long haul. YouTube has videos on the “25-cent trigger job”, which gives you the same pull as if you’d fired the gun several thousand times and is definitely worth a look. A few minutes with a Dremel, a felt polishing wheel, and a bit of Flitz makes a difference.

The trigger takes a while to master. I use a smooth, uninteruppted press like you’d use on a DA revolver. Don’t try to stage it. Put your finger on the trigger so the end of your trigger stroke has you pressing straight back, then let the trigger reset—that’s how you know where to start. Typically this means sinking way more finger into the guard than you’d think. Pat McNamara and Kyle DeFoor have good videos on this.

Grip it like you’re trying to crush the magwell. See Ben Stoeger’s video on grip—it makes a big difference.

Glock sights are a nighmare. If you shoot other handguns well AND you’ve learned the Glock trigger stroke, then it’s time to fiddle with the sights. Pistols have to be zeroed just like long guns, and Glock sights rarely hit where they’re supposed to from the factory. Hitting left is VERY common with Glocks. That's an easy fix, but elevation corrections are tougher. I once had a Gen4 G17 that was very accurate but six inches high with most loads at 25 yards and totally off the paper at 50. I sent it back to Glock, who claimed that it was within spec. I ended up putting a very high front sight on it to get POI down to a usable spot, but after that it was fine. I’ve had several others that were 3-4” high or low at 25.

Aftermarket sights will not automatically fix this. Most aftermarket sights sold as sets are the same height as the factory sights, so if the factory sights are wrong then the aftermarket ones will also be wrong. I finally ended up buying a dozen plain black blades of different heights. Now I shoot a new Glock enough to find out which ammo it shoots best, then figure out the right height for the front sight, THEN order night sights that will give me a proper 25-yard zero with that load. Yes, you can use a formula to get the right height, but this method is faster.

Speaking of zeroes, I’ve also found that the zero on a brand-new Glock can wander until you have about 500 rounds through it, so shoot it that much before you fiddle with the sights.

Final note on sights: the plastic ones can break off easily. If you really like that pattern, get the steel ones. They’re ultra cheap and exactly like the plastic ones.

You will almost definitely find the G17 to be easier to shoot than the G48, but that's because it's a full-sized pistol and the G48 is meant to be concealable. Don't be too quick to get rid of the 48. It may meet a need you didn't know you had.

I have no idea how to hotrod a G20--never fired one.

Let me know if you have other questions.


Okie John

The biggest problem I had was using the tip of my finger on the trigger. My buddy told me about the Pat Mac video saying use more finger and things straightened right up. Best tip I've gotten on shooting Glock's.

Oh and if you're paying attention to the front sight, it don't matter about grip angle. That was a close second.

I would upgrade to G40 mount handgun holosight to take full advantage what 10x25 has to offer.