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I hope you'll keep us posted
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Tag, just because I like seeing how these things end up. Good luck.
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I just checked his website and he still claims to have the discontinued Leupold in inventory.
The same one he claimed to have had when he shipped me a bottle of water.
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I had the same problem with this company. Ordered a pair of binoculars on Jan 1 and the charge showed up on my card the next day. After a week of waiting I starated trying to call and email, they said they had a back order issue and was working on it. I checked with the binocular mfg and found that model had been discontinued for over a year but O&A still had it for sale. I emailed them again and they said would you like store credit so I asked for a specific rifle scope and they replied the next day that it was not available. So I started calling and emailing every few days for a refund to my credit card. They replied they could not do that because they changed credit card processors. This went on for almost 2 months. Finally I got with my credit card company and they reversed charges within a day.
Check out this BBB site: gohttps://www.bbb.org/us/tx/houston/profile/online-retailer/opticsandammo-llc-0915-90049984/complaints
The owners name is Christopher Eustice
I suggest you call the Houston Attorney General Office/Police Dept. and report fraud. i did.
Keep this thread going guys
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I hope you can bring this POS down. I'd love for him to get his ass kicked badly then go to jail and get it pounded.
Last edited by PaulBarnard; 03/08/20.
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The latest with my situation is that he was fighting with my CC company and claiming I got the order. LOL
I told the rep that I had only received a 25 dollar item with the rest undelivered. I paid for the item by check and that is it. For which he is claiming he never got.
The balance of the order he is now claiming was delivered to me.
The chargeback will stand. This guy is almost pathological. Like he doesn't even live in reality. He figures he can just keep doubling down on this stuff.
I'm now getting the cut and paste threats again via email and text.
Anybody have status on their complaints?
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Cyclops,
Look up and print everything you can find on the inet along with this chat.
Mail it to the highest executive in your CC company and get on their ass about allowing a master criminal to be an agent for their CC.
I've had all the threats from this guy also.....no lawsuits yet.
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Well i got a response from the Attorney General which essentially reads that they'll keep my complaint on file in case they want to launch some sort of major fraud case against him, but for me as an individual there is nothing they're gonna do. I don't want to think that was all just a waste of time.... but there ya go.
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I too just filed a complaint with the Texas Attorney General on OpticsAndAmmo. Went through the same runaround with this guy as many of you have. I added to my complaint not just my horrible experience but gave links to other multiple bad experiences from others. Hopefully this crook will get shut down if enough file complaints with the Texas AG. It was good to come to this forum and see that I wasn’t alone. Thanks guys.
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He is a thief. Hire some Bubbas to whoop up on him!
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Also be sure to contact the local sheriff and police. In a similar situation a few years ago it was the sheriff department that got the matter resolved. They are much closer to the situation and more likely to take an interest.
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I was curious and tried to lookup his web site. Seems it's down. will not even connect to anything
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You can do what I been doing, register with a burner email, add several $1k to your cart and never check out, he's sent me the hey you left stuff in your cart, check out before someone else beats you to it follow up, I replied oh, found out your a crook, f off. He threatened to sue me, I told him that he didn't even know who I was, what a dumbass.
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That right there is funny. The burner I used was fartrellcluggens.
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Had this happened to me I am thinking there would be a roadtrip to TX for some quality "discussion" of the matter with this prick.
I cannot abide a thief.
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Had this happened to me I am thinking there would be a roadtrip to TX for some quality "discussion" of the matter with this prick.
I cannot abide a thief. I'll spot you some fuel money if you send me pics of the aftermath hahaha!!!
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Had this happened to me I am thinking there would be a roadtrip to TX for some quality "discussion" of the matter with this prick.
I cannot abide a thief. I'll spot you some fuel money if you send me pics of the aftermath hahaha!!! Sign me up!
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Had this happened to me I am thinking there would be a roadtrip to TX for some quality "discussion" of the matter with this prick.
I cannot abide a thief. I'll spot you some fuel money if you send me pics of the aftermath hahaha!!! Sign me up! Looks like you've got some company for the trip hillbillybear, I'll even throw in extra for burgers on the way!
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I see his web site is back up today. Wow I have never seen such a large number of items and manufactures. He must have one hell of a warehouse LOL. Placed a BS order with out payment info. I did get this email which might interest some.
Hi Billie,
Thanks for your order. It’s on-hold until we confirm that payment has been received. In the meantime, here’s a reminder of what you ordered:
Make your payment directly into our bank account. Please use your Order ID as the payment reference. Your order won’t be shipped until the funds have cleared in our account. Our bank details Bank Transfers:
Bank: Capital One Bank Account number: 3027029417 Routing number: 111901014 BIC: HIBKUS44
[Order #81072] (March 29, 2020) He's waiting for my bank info LOL.
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