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It sounds like a lot of guys on here are just looking for a reason to poach rather than find a different solution. Like.....go to the grocery store, maybe?
The deer hunter does not notice the mountains
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve" - Isoroku Yamamoto
There sure are a lot of America haters that want to live here...
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It sounds like a lot of guys on here are just looking for a reason to poach rather than find a different solution. Excellent observation!
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It sounds like a lot of guys on here are just looking for a reason to poach rather than find a different solution. Excellent observation! Yes, funny how some of us can see that !
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"Kids who grow up hunting, fishing & trapping, do not mug little old Ladies"
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It sounds like a lot of guys on here are just looking for a reason to poach rather than find a different solution. Excellent observation! Yes, funny how some of us can see that ! Like a beacon in the night!
The deer hunter does not notice the mountains
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve" - Isoroku Yamamoto
There sure are a lot of America haters that want to live here...
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I poached a ground squirrel yesterday, but it wasn't very tasty. Think I'll grill the next one.
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The food that was plentiful in all the stores is in homes now. Instead of poaching, stealing from the public, how about targeting those who cleaned out the stores. I would much rather see targeting of the hoarders over stealing of public game. Plus, how many deer are going to get killed by people without a clue of how to process it so the majority of the deer will be wasted.
Next step is hoarding of the public game. I have deer and turkey on my property every day. Should I kill as many as I can fit in my freezer now before someone else get them? This is the hoarder's mentality; a bunch of selfish Aholes. So you are a socialist? You believe that everyone should have the same amount of food, just divide it all equally? Do you believe that about money also, we all get to have the same amount? Not a socialist by any means, if you must put me in a bucket then rich capitalist may be the best. I believe some will use this panic as a reason to kill game animals. Like I told the warden who let a kid go, "for poaching a deer to feed his family", why doesn't he sell one of his guns to feed his family? How about the inner city youth's mother who said it wasn't fair to shoot her son when he was only robbing the store to feed his family, he was a good boy? For the record, I believe: Hoarding is wrong, hoarding contributes to the very problem you're hoarding to avoid but just making it worse for everyone else. Game animals are a public asset. Poaching is similar to going to a government building and stealing furniture. I don't believe everyone should have the same amount of anything except maybe freedom for law abiding citizens and the opportunity to make oneself better (as defined by the individual).
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The food that was plentiful in all the stores is in homes now. Instead of poaching, stealing from the public, how about targeting those who cleaned out the stores. I would much rather see targeting of the hoarders over stealing of public game. "Lucy, you gots some 'splainin to do..."
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I poached some sardines out of a can before.
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Easy....we have some here that think hoarding is one of the highest forms of capitalism....and they brag about it.....
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Easy....we have some here that think hoarding is one of the highest forms of capitalism....and they brag about it..... What about if a fella hoards money, is that wrong too?
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First thought would be money honestly accumulated is money earned and has nothing to do with hoarding. In addition there is a never ending supply of money available for those who know how to honestly make it. Money in that case isn't in short supply.
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Cash or inventory. One in the same.
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Inventory is only worth what you can turn it for. Boeing right now is sitting on 10's of million dollars of inventory they can't turn, and it is reflected in its current stock price.
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Not a socialist by any means, if you must put me in a bucket then rich capitalist may be the best. I believe some will use this panic as a reason to kill game animals. Like I told the warden who let a kid go, "for poaching a deer to feed his family", why doesn't he sell one of his guns to feed his family? How about the inner city youth's mother who said it wasn't fair to shoot her son when he was only robbing the store to feed his family, he was a good boy?
For the record, I believe:
Hoarding is wrong, hoarding contributes to the very problem you're hoarding to avoid but just making it worse for everyone else.
Game animals are a public asset. Poaching is similar to going to a government building and stealing furniture.
I don't believe everyone should have the same amount of anything except maybe freedom for law abiding citizens and the opportunity to make oneself better (as defined by the individual). ^ Worth reading twice.
Quit giving in inch by inch then looking back to lament the mile behind ya and wonder how to preserve those few feet left in front of ya. They'll never stop until they're stopped. That's a fact.
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Not a socialist by any means, if you must put me in a bucket then rich capitalist may be the best. I believe some will use this panic as a reason to kill game animals. Like I told the warden who let a kid go, "for poaching a deer to feed his family", why doesn't he sell one of his guns to feed his family? How about the inner city youth's mother who said it wasn't fair to shoot her son when he was only robbing the store to feed his family, he was a good boy?
For the record, I believe:
Hoarding is wrong, hoarding contributes to the very problem you're hoarding to avoid but just making it worse for everyone else.
Game animals are a public asset. Poaching is similar to going to a government building and stealing furniture.
I don't believe everyone should have the same amount of anything except maybe freedom for law abiding citizens and the opportunity to make oneself better (as defined by the individual). ^ Worth reading twice. How do you know the kid had more than one gun ? I've known lots of people who didn't. If you have a need to kill game for food the last thing you want to be doing is selling your one and only gun.
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Rock has a good idea. We're not running out of meat, but zapping feral horses (no need for guns) and shipping it to France and Germany would be a mutually beneficial act of international comity.
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There are situations where the law may be ignored and real hunger is one of those. Someone who has not experienced real hunger cannot comment on it because he has no understanding. I seriously doubt that anyone who is here on the 'fire is in any danger of starving anytime soon. I would not be surprised to learn that many could skip a few meals with no ill effects. As long as people are getting government money, they don't need to hunt for food. GD
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If one can "justify" breaking the law for poaching purposes because you're hungry, then you're no different than the guy who shoplifts some food at the C-store because he's hungry, or even robs a bank because he's poorer than he wishes to be.
Once a person can "justify" breaking one law, then they can "justify" breaking them all since they have slipped into teleological thinking at the expense of deontological.
But I also suppose everyone on the 'Fire considers themselves virtuous while the next poacher over is simply vicious.
What a dumbasss thing to say, or believe. Like I said in another thread, if JG and company get hungry, I'm killing something regardless of 24HCF approval. As I said: "I also suppose everyone on the 'Fire considers themselves virtuous while the next poacher over is simply vicious."
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I've never considered someone feeding their family thru hunting out of season as a poacher. How about when they have thousands of dollars of tattoos, 3 thousand dollar rims on their vehicles, kids have diamond earrings, multiple tv's, plenty of money for cigs, booze, weed, atv's, boats etc? Seems to be the case everywhere
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I've never considered someone feeding their family thru hunting out of season as a poacher. How about when they have thousands of dollars of tattoos, 3 thousand dollar rims on their vehicles, kids have diamond earrings, multiple tv's, plenty of money for cigs, booze, weed, atv's, boats etc? Seems to be the case everywhere Yep, good question.
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