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Grocery Stores are running out of food especially meat.

The Hunters freezer may soon run out of last years bounty.

This schit may last all summer, so when will it be OK with the fire to start filling our freezers with out of season game?
I don’t think anybody is going to fault anyone for feeding their family. We are in the worst part of this scenario. What do we have left, like 11 days?
Sea lions and feral horses are delicious.

Is taking a protected non-game animal still considered poaching?
The food that was plentiful in all the stores is in homes now. Instead of poaching, stealing from the public, how about targeting those who cleaned out the stores. I would much rather see targeting of the hoarders over stealing of public game. Plus, how many deer are going to get killed by people without a clue of how to process it so the majority of the deer will be wasted.

Next step is hoarding of the public game. I have deer and turkey on my property every day. Should I kill as many as I can fit in my freezer now before someone else get them? This is the hoarder's mentality; a bunch of selfish Aholes.
I've had multiple venison steaks & loins standing in my driveway the past two mornings on my way out.
This is about the time of year they seem to get over their 'fly or die' auto response.
They're so unaware...
Originally Posted by Jeffrey
I don’t think anybody is going to fault anyone for feeding their family. We are in the worst part of this scenario. What do we have left, like 11 days?


Funny

Months are predicted

Two weeks at a time
Probably start with the Collard Doves - not protected and plentiful.
Only to stave off hunger, when there's no other option.

Necessity: A legal defense that permits a person to lawfully act in what would otherwise be a criminal manner when an emergency situation, not of the person's own creation, compels him to act in a criminal manner to avoid greater harm from occurring.
Why do you suppose people from third world communist or dictatorship controlled countries eat bugs and worms?

Bon appetit
I've never considered someone feeding their family thru hunting out of season as a poacher.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Grocery Stores are running out of food especially meat.

The Hunters freezer may soon run out of last years bounty.

This schit may last all summer, so when will it be OK with the fire to start filling our freezers with out of season game?




And.....will it be retroactive! grin memtb
For a segment of the 'fire, I feel that it not only always has been acceptable, but lauded.
Ant and the Grasshopper scenario.

Circumstances beyond your control are at least arguable. I get it...don't like it...but I get it.

Didn't have any plan at all and spent every last dime on toys? That's on you. I still get it, but God help me, less forgiving.
Originally Posted by centershot
Probably start with the Collard Doves - not protected and plentiful.



exactly.......even told my wife that the other day.......

have 14-15 at the feeder all day long.......

remove head with 17M2......enjoy.....


To me........feeding your family is not poaching......

only as a last resort......

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Still plenty of food available.



Because your favorite brew pub closed down does not mean its time to panic.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Grocery Stores are running out of food especially meat.

The Hunters freezer may soon run out of last years bounty.

This schit may last all summer, so when will it be OK with the fire to start filling our freezers with out of season game?


I don't really care if someone wants to harvest wild game to feed their family. Have at it. Below I've outlined a few other alternatives that are more food for less effort than hunting.

Think just a little bit. Sysco and the like have WAREHOUSES full of food that's not going to restaurants. The local Grainger branch here in town has TP in stock because it's out of what most consider the normal supply chain.

Before you go poaching deer @ 15-30# worth of meat each, maybe hop on the cattleman/stockman Assoc. website for your AO, then call a few and see who's got a giant old bull or dry old cow (turkeys, chickens, pigs, etc) in need of introduction to a grinder. Get a couple of neighbors together and get it paid for and processed. If you've got deer in the yard I guess you're not expending much in terms of effort or resources to harvest them. If one lives in town and is thinking of driving out and hunting, then buying an animal from a producer is going to get you a LOT more for a LOT less.

No need to go full-on hunter/gatherer society here folks.
Originally Posted by horse1
Originally Posted by steve4102
Grocery Stores are running out of food especially meat.

The Hunters freezer may soon run out of last years bounty.

This schit may last all summer, so when will it be OK with the fire to start filling our freezers with out of season game?


Think just a little bit. Sysco and the like have WAREHOUSES full of food that's not going to restaurants. The local Grainger branch here in town has TP in stock because it's out of what most consider the normal supply chain.

Before you go poaching deer @ 15-30# worth of meat each, maybe hop on the cattleman/stockman Assoc. website for your AO, then call a few and see who's got a giant old bull or dry old cow in need of introduction to a grinder. Get a couple of neighbors together and get it paid for and processed.

No need to go full-on hunter/gatherer society here folks.



Hehehe.....sensationalism is not jut a tool of the left anymore......
The food supply chain is in no danger of running out for awhile. The CEO of Cub Foods was on a radio station yesterday saying that after this initial onslaught of hoarding, the shelves will fill back up and things should level out. It was panic buying at it's finest.

Local radio guy was in Costco yesterday and said the meat coolers are filling back up pretty fast.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by horse1
Originally Posted by steve4102
Grocery Stores are running out of food especially meat.

The Hunters freezer may soon run out of last years bounty.

This schit may last all summer, so when will it be OK with the fire to start filling our freezers with out of season game?


Think just a little bit. Sysco and the like have WAREHOUSES full of food that's not going to restaurants. The local Grainger branch here in town has TP in stock because it's out of what most consider the normal supply chain.

Before you go poaching deer @ 15-30# worth of meat each, maybe hop on the cattleman/stockman Assoc. website for your AO, then call a few and see who's got a giant old bull or dry old cow in need of introduction to a grinder. Get a couple of neighbors together and get it paid for and processed.

No need to go full-on hunter/gatherer society here folks.



Hehehe.....sensationalism is not jut a tool of the left anymore......


Excellent point!
Plenty of dead deer on the side of the road yet.... let's get them picked up first before we start shooting more....
Originally Posted by Boise
The food that was plentiful in all the stores is in homes now. Instead of poaching, stealing from the public, how about targeting those who cleaned out the stores. I would much rather see targeting of the hoarders over stealing of public game. Plus, how many deer are going to get killed by people without a clue of how to process it so the majority of the deer will be wasted.

Next step is hoarding of the public game. I have deer and turkey on my property every day. Should I kill as many as I can fit in my freezer now before someone else get them? This is the hoarder's mentality; a bunch of selfish Aholes.


So you are a socialist? You believe that everyone should have the same amount of food, just divide it all equally? Do you believe that about money also, we all get to have the same amount?
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Still plenty of food available.



Because your favorite brew pub closed down does not mean its time to panic.




I order my pork butts by the case from a local sausage maker. He is a friend and I get them at cost.

I make a lot of sausage, pork, beef, and Venison. This is the time of year I go overboard and fill my freezers full with brats, hot dogs, polish, bologna, summer, potato and breakfast.

I ordered 3 cases of butts earlier this week, they should have been here today, perfect for this weekends grind and stuff.

I got a call today, no pork, no idea when and no back-order.

This is extremely odd as with all the restaurants shut down one would think that the Wholesale distributors would have plenty. Not the case, no pun intended.
Originally Posted by Boise
The food that was plentiful in all the stores is in homes now. Instead of poaching, stealing from the public, how about targeting those who cleaned out the stores. I would much rather see targeting of the hoarders over stealing of public game. Plus, how many deer are going to get killed by people without a clue of how to process it so the majority of the deer will be wasted.

Next step is hoarding of the public game. I have deer and turkey on my property every day. Should I kill as many as I can fit in my freezer now before someone else get them? This is the hoarder's mentality; a bunch of selfish Aholes.


Until hurricane season rolls around, I never stockpile anything. I go to the grocery store about 2 times a week to buy food for the next few days. Since the COVID concerns have arisen, each time I go, I get a few extra frozen, canned and dry grocery items. I am now up to about 3 weeks worth of food. I will stop getting the few extras each trip when I have about a month's supply. I don't know if that makes me a hoarder or not.
You aren’t running out of food.

Already have a thread on this: Taking game out of season

For someone who really needs to eat I say go for it, the deer population would not suffer. However, I think what would happen in most cases is someone just shoots a deer, walks up to it, then decides not to butcher it.....................I don't think most here want to gut a deer in the middle of July whens it's over 100 degrees. Most that would harvest a deer are in rural areas, many of those already have a garden and chickens. Again, I reference the movie clip below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZrcqIvvB_0
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Still plenty of food available.



Because your favorite brew pub closed down does not mean its time to panic.




I order my pork butts by the case from a local sausage maker. He is a friend and I get them at cost.

I make a lot of sausage, pork, beef, and Venison. This is the time of year I go overboard and fill my freezers full with brats, hot dogs, polish, bologna, summer, potato and breakfast.

I ordered 3 cases of butts earlier this week, they should have been here today, perfect for this weekends grind and stuff.

I got a call today, no pork, no idea when and no back-order.

This is extremely odd as with all the restaurants shut down one would think that the Wholesale distributors would have plenty. Not the case, no pun intended.


No shortage of pork producers in MN, call a few until you source how ever many # of pork you want. Load up some coolers and sharp knives. Request from the producer that you are given access to a loader or hanging facility to get your stuff broken down as well as carcass disposal.

This is just feeding yourself folks, not long-division where you have to show all your work. Uff-Da!

Jim, Sammo, or anyone else who has livestock. If someone called ahead and arranged things would you have an animal to sell for cash-money @ spot price?
Not as concerned about distributors running out of food as I am a total lockdown/shutdown of businesses and travel.
Originally Posted by Raeford
Not as concerned about distributors running out of food as I am a total lockdown/shutdown of businesses and travel.


In which case driving around hunting is a sure way to get you into more trouble than is driving to a producer and back. Not that one should have to, but, one could likely call your local sheriff's dept. and let them know where you're going, when you're going, and why you're going.
Originally Posted by nealglen37
For someone who really needs to eat I say go for it, the deer population would not suffer. However, I think what would happen in most cases is someone just shoots a deer, walks up to it, then decides not to butcher it.....................I don't think most here want to gut a deer in the middle of July whens it's over 100 degrees. Most that would harvest a deer are in rural areas, many of those already have a garden and chickens. Again, I reference the movie clip below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZrcqIvvB_0
You must be a city guy. I live in a rural area and have for my entire life. Very few residents here have chickens and even if they did it would take one hell of a lot of chickens to feed a family for very long. Not many raise a garden either and even for the ones who do, they aren't going to be eating anything out of those gardens for months yet. It just snowed here night before last and it will be several more weeks before we stop getting frost. Hell, I've seen it snow on mothers day here.
If one can "justify" breaking the law for poaching purposes because you're hungry, then you're no different than the guy who shoplifts some food at the C-store because he's hungry, or even robs a bank because he's poorer than he wishes to be.

Once a person can "justify" breaking one law, then they can "justify" breaking them all since they have slipped into teleological thinking at the expense of deontological.

But I also suppose everyone on the 'Fire considers themselves virtuous while the next poacher over is simply vicious.
Plenty of meat,fruit,toilet paper,vegetables yesterday,but you could only buy 1 pound of rice???
Not true. Deer belong to no one. Those groceries are the stores property
If your hungry, need meat, just do it, zip your lip, it’s really that simple.
I just want to know how the progressive vegan crew is going to poach fake meat....
Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
If one can "justify" breaking the law for poaching purposes because you're hungry, then you're no different than the guy who shoplifts some food at the C-store because he's hungry, or even robs a bank because he's poorer than he wishes to be.

Once a person can "justify" breaking one law, then they can "justify" breaking them all since they have slipped into teleological thinking at the expense of deontological.

But I also suppose everyone on the 'Fire considers themselves virtuous while the next poacher over is simply vicious.
So by your reasoning, the guy breaking the speed limit on the way home from work could easily justify robbing a bank . Typical old campfire bonehead thinking there. Everybody here breaks laws. EVERYBODY.
Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
If one can "justify" breaking the law for poaching purposes because you're hungry, then you're no different than the guy who shoplifts some food at the C-store because he's hungry, or even robs a bank because he's poorer than he wishes to be.

Once a person can "justify" breaking one law, then they can "justify" breaking them all since they have slipped into teleological thinking at the expense of deontological.

But I also suppose everyone on the 'Fire considers themselves virtuous while the next poacher over is simply vicious.



Jean Valjean - Les Miserables
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Boise
The food that was plentiful in all the stores is in homes now. Instead of poaching, stealing from the public, how about targeting those who cleaned out the stores. I would much rather see targeting of the hoarders over stealing of public game. Plus, how many deer are going to get killed by people without a clue of how to process it so the majority of the deer will be wasted.

Next step is hoarding of the public game. I have deer and turkey on my property every day. Should I kill as many as I can fit in my freezer now before someone else get them? This is the hoarder's mentality; a bunch of selfish Aholes.


Until hurricane season rolls around, I never stockpile anything. I go to the grocery store about 2 times a week to buy food for the next few days. Since the COVID concerns have arisen, each time I go, I get a few extra frozen, canned and dry grocery items. I am now up to about 3 weeks worth of food. I will stop getting the few extras each trip when I have about a month's supply. I don't know if that makes me a hoarder or not.


No, I think a hoarder buys more than a few extra.
Originally Posted by mjbgalt
Not true. Deer belong to no one. Those groceries are the stores property

The deer belong to the guberment , sonny. 🤨
Yes. Anyone....anywhere would be able to buy an animal from a producer.

They may not be finished however.
"When Will Poaching Be Acceptable to The Fire? "

Honestly, if and when it gets to that point I won't GAF whether acceptable to the fire or not.
Hehehehe!
SSS...Shoot/Store and Shutup.....

Lol
Isn’t blasting one off of a corn pile already poaching? Or strapped to front of some guide’s jeep bumper?
Originally Posted by slumlord
Isn’t blasting one off of a corn pile already poaching? Or strapped to front of some guide’s jeep bumper?


Illegal in some states, unethical to many, but poaching, not.
Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
If one can "justify" breaking the law for poaching purposes because you're hungry, then you're no different than the guy who shoplifts some food at the C-store because he's hungry, or even robs a bank because he's poorer than he wishes to be.

Once a person can "justify" breaking one law, then they can "justify" breaking them all since they have slipped into teleological thinking at the expense of deontological.

But I also suppose everyone on the 'Fire considers themselves virtuous while the next poacher over is simply vicious.


What a dumbasss thing to say, or believe. Like I said in another thread, if JG and company get hungry, I'm killing something regardless of 24HCF approval.

In the first place, there is plenty of food in the USA to feed its people. There may be a day or three where there is not the meat or what ever you want on the shelf. But relax, there is food.

I Won’t need to shoot any of the deer that are on my lawn, most days. But in the extreme odd case that I did, I won’t be checking here for approval.

Get a grip guys.
Steve4102: I have heard that Magpies (in enough quantity!) are very filling and delectable when carefully prepared!
I have enough meat and food on hand to last the VarmintWife and I for 2 1/2 maybe 3 months - no poaching really needed here.
I doubt many American families at all will have the need for Big Game poaching.
Food banks and relatives with foresight should be enough of a fall back plan - wouldn't you think?
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
People that do live in a rural area (that do have at least 1 acre of land, and do not have a garden, chickens, or something..................would not know how to butcher a deer. I think people may years ago might kill small animals, but very few killed large animals in summer. They had no way of preserving the meat. That's why people butchered animals, or harvested big game in the fall and winter months when they could smoke and cure it. I have cleaned deer in September when the weather was close to 100...............most could not do it. The smell, the flies, the filth at the same time your shirt is soaked with sweat.You also have to cool the meat before it goes bad. I can live off beans and rice until cool weather were I could take care of something properly........wow......that was quite the rant I went on.

When should I start eating my neighbors?
Its almost time to start fishing. I like fish and its usually easy to catch a bunch. If times are hard just keep a few more and freeze'em up.
I don't like cleaning deer in warm weather, they're loaded with the ticks.
Heck, I'll just say it, I'm too lazy to clean deer anymore. That might change if I was to get hungry enough.
People will do anything if they're hungry enough, I wouldn't call the man on anybody if I thought they were hungry, I might even give him a fish.
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
No, I think a hoarder buys more than a few extra.

When a store manager sees this, he's part of the problem if he doesn't stop it.

Pic below originally posted by slumlord: Re: No Meat in Stores

Originally Posted by slumlord
They see me rollin....they hatin

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Yup, fishing

Catch what you need, anyone can do it.
You don’t need a pro staff endorsement, to catch a mess of bluegill from the bank.
A shade tree is nice though.





Unlike a deer, you got a 150 lbs of ‘oh shît what now’...


That wouldn’t be me, I have a walkin cooler and complete processing set up.
I grabbed that from Instagram

But I also seen it played out locally, a gal had 6 gallons of milk.
I wanted to ask her if she was raising a litter of niglets or bottle feeding a calf in her living room.
I'm a bank fishing fool. My wife will confirm the fool part.
Just make sure you don't poach and eats BATS!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by Whiptail

When should I start eating my neighbors?


Need pics before we can answer.
Originally Posted by SockPuppet
Originally Posted by Whiptail

When should I start eating my neighbors?


Need pics before we can answer.



Yeah. No schit.

With the Golden Corral shut down, these people might start losing condition.
Originally Posted by SockPuppet
Originally Posted by Whiptail

When should I start eating my neighbors?


Need pics before we can answer.


My first thought as well.
Originally Posted by nealglen37
People that do live in a rural area (that do have at least 1 acre of land, and do not have a garden, chickens, or something..................would not know how to butcher a deer. I think people may years ago might kill small animals, but very few killed large animals in summer. They had no way of preserving the meat. That's why people butchered animals, or harvested big game in the fall and winter months when they could smoke and cure it. I have cleaned deer in September when the weather was close to 100...............most could not do it. The smell, the flies, the filth at the same time your shirt is soaked with swat.You also have to cool the meat before it goes bad. I can live off beans and rice until cool weather were I could take care of something properly........wow......that was quite the rant I went on.
Bullshyt.. There's one household on my road {very rural} that has chickens and maybe a third that grow a garden. The road is about 6 miles long and has 12 residences on it. I know most of them pretty well and some very well. All but three are hunters and know very well how to butcher deer and other game. Two that may not are city transplants and don't hunt. The other is a retired veterinarian who also used to raise beef cattle so I'm pretty sure he'd be fine butchering deer.
Poaching is disgusting- - - -it ruins the taste of the meat. I prefer frying, baking, or BBQ!
Jerry
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Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
Poaching is disgusting- - - -it ruins the taste of the meat. I prefer frying, baking, or BBQ!
Jerry


Exactly


Originally Posted by nealglen37
Just make sure you don't poach and eats BATS!!!!!!!


I do believe that poaching the bats kills the virus. Bat sashimi/tartar, so to speak, is the big no-no.
Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
Poaching is disgusting- - - -it ruins the taste of the meat. I prefer frying, baking, or BBQ!
Jerry


There used to be a restaurant locally that served a steak poached in clarified butter and finished on a grill.
Must not be too bad, saw three fresh road killed deer this morning and no one was stopping to pick them up.
Originally Posted by Crappie_Killer
Must not be too bad, saw three fresh road killed deer this morning and no one was stopping to pick them up.


Neighbors who abut my backyard are asian. When I stop hearing their idiot stupid moronic black lab barking, Maybe I'll begin to worry.
A father who was trying to feed his hungry children....................would not care what random people on an internet forum thought about his actions. "son"......."I would like to feed you".....but I'm not sure if those people on the campfire would still like me.
Legally speaking—the Gov’t does Not own the deer!!
Grandson is raising a pig to auction off at the spring show. If they cancel the show he's already offered his pig to feed the family.

What a good boy eh?
I don’t think that harvesting a hog is “poaching”! However, some my have reservations about “how” I feed my hogs! Just saying! grin memtb
Hummmm... anybody seen my box of spotted owl helper ?
One nice thing I've discovered about getting older is that I don't care about the opinions of others nearly as much as I used to. If I need to kill out of season to feed my family, I will and with the exception of the law, I don't care who has a problem with it.
Originally Posted by dale06

In the first place, there is plenty of food in the USA to feed its people. There may be a day or three where there is not the meat or what ever you want on the shelf. But relax, there is food.

I Won’t need to shoot any of the deer that are on my lawn, most days. But in the extreme odd case that I did, I won’t be checking here for approval.

Get a grip guys.


Best summation of the situation I have read yet. Cheers NC
Originally Posted by cfran
You aren’t running out of food.


+1
LOL yalls [bleep] needs wired a little tighter,, day what? 5-6? panic much? If you need it,harvest it if ya dont leave it be,, shake the sand out of your beavers and go fishing or read a book or somthing,,,
Originally Posted by hosfly
LOL yalls [bleep] needs wired a little tighter,, day what? 5-6? panic much? If you need it,harvest it if ya dont leave it be,, shake the sand out of your beavers and go fishing or read a book or somthing,,,

I don't hear anyone panicking, just tossing around a "what-if?".
Originally Posted by bruinruin
Originally Posted by hosfly
LOL yalls [bleep] needs wired a little tighter,, day what? 5-6? panic much? If you need it,harvest it if ya dont leave it be,, shake the sand out of your beavers and go fishing or read a book or somthing,,,

I don't hear anyone panicking, just tossing around a "what-if?".



Those that do not investigate the “what if’s”, are the ones most subject to panic! I kinda like the what if’s, it makes me explore the options needed to excel during a crisis! There are usually many ways to address a situation.....but, only one best way! memtb
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by slumlord
Isn’t blasting one off of a corn pile already poaching? Or strapped to front of some guide’s jeep bumper?


Illegal in some states, unethical to many, but poaching, not.


Oh, it's all semantics anyway.

Baiting might be considered by many here as "legalized" poaching.

Geno
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by SockPuppet
Originally Posted by Whiptail

When should I start eating my neighbors?


Need pics before we can answer.



Yeah. No schit.

With the Golden Corral shut down, these people might start losing condition.



Yeah, wouldn't want all that good fat being used up to keep them alive and all.

Could be rendered down for candles and such. Greasing boots too, as once the winter gets here again the hoarders will clean the shelves of Obenauf's and SnoSeal.

Geno
Am not worried about meat in the least.

Honestly, w drive through and grocery still open, I'll adjust to not tap into my freezer.

I don't need to eat two venison or other critter steaks every meal.
In fact, I eat about twice a day.

And not that much. Could even get by with less.
Dayamn, got the ol lady a gyro from place down the road.
Stinkin up the whole house.

We hit that joint once a week.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Grocery Stores are running out of food especially meat.

The Hunters freezer may soon run out of last years bounty.

This schit may last all summer, so when will it be OK with the fire to start filling our freezers with out of season game?


How many rolls of TP do you have? Cases of bottled water?

If you need meat after this has lasted "all summer", and you hoarded that non-essential stuff..................you better get to bartering with the folks that hoarded up all the freezers and filled them with the pork loins and family size burger packs when there was no TP and water left to hoard.

And do that bartering BEFORE you start poaching.

Then it will be OK with this 'fire member.

Geno

PS, if you didn't hoard TP and/or water, then barter away some non- essential stuff to those that have meat..........you know, stuff like pictures hanging on the wall, lamps, blankets, etc.
I don't think being uncomfortable to justify poaching.
Even if its easy and you can get by with it.
Its gotta get truly bad before I take critters out of season.
They be making little ones for hunting when things get back to normal.

Shoot a button buck if it comes to it.
Leave does alone.

Hmmmm, not too concerned about folks killing all these %$#@ Canada geese in the parks and retention ponds.
Fuggin poop machines.
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by mjbgalt
Not true. Deer belong to no one. Those groceries are the stores property

The deer belong to the guberment , sonny. 🤨


Not when one hits your vehicle or eats your crops to the ground. I see no reason if you want a deer to eat go and get one, just don't come on my property because I feel the deer belong to me.
Pffft, I don't care a bit what anybody on here thinks about it. If I get low on food somethings gonna die.
I don't think the situation is going to get dire enough that people have to feed themselves through poaching.

But if worst comes to worst buying a beef on the hoof would feed a lot of people.

Lot's of cattlemen around here. 2 or 3 men could get together to buy a beef. Find somebody who could do some decent butchering.

It would cost some money and labor. But there's lots of food out there.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I don't think the situation is going to get dire enough that people have to feed themselves through poaching.

But if worst comes to worst buying a beef on the hoof would feed a lot of people.

Lot's of cattlemen around here. 2 or 3 men could get together to buy a beef. Find somebody who could do some decent butchering.

It would cost some money and labor. But there's lots of food out there.
Where are people going to get money to buy a beef if this thing goes on for months ? Not everybody is retired and collecting pensions/social security and most people I know are out of work right now for an undetermined length of time.
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I don't think the situation is going to get dire enough that people have to feed themselves through poaching.

But if worst comes to worst buying a beef on the hoof would feed a lot of people.

Lot's of cattlemen around here. 2 or 3 men could get together to buy a beef. Find somebody who could do some decent butchering.

It would cost some money and labor. But there's lots of food out there.
Where are people going to get money to buy a beef if this thing goes on for months ? Not everybody is retired and collecting pensions/social security and most people I know are out of work right now for an undetermined length of time.


I wouldn't fault somebody for taking game out of season if it was necessary.

I don't see it getting to be that bad, however.
Damn this is the dumbest thread yet... Is anybody here going hungry yet? It's been a whole week or less since you've been "inconvenienced".

If I get hungry this is the last place I'm gonna give a [bleep] what they think if I kill something.

I agree, get outside, read a book quit dreaming up worst case scenarios and posting your bullshit on here.

I'm out..............
if got really bad i'd do it, plenty of hogs down here, might even know someone when they were a teenager use to walk 10 or more miles into the king ranch.
During times of war, and food rationing, people often had Victory Gardens to supplement their diet. Anyone considering that alternative this spring?
Kentucky and Barkley Lakes are over-run with Asian Carp. Commercial fishermen are pulling multi thousand pounds out of them and it's not even making a dent in their numbers.

The only way they will ever get rid of asian carp is to put them into the Mc Fish burgers.
I told my wife yesterday that when I hear shots in the forest, I'll be going the other way. Guys out of work will be dropping does for meat to save money for beer. That is the way it will be. Probably more of a "want" than a real need. Need is for beer money.
Originally Posted by Spotshooter
The only way they will ever get rid of asian carp is to put them into the Mc Fish burgers.


The posted video shows how to cook the silver carp. (the jumping carp)

They're a different species than most people think of as a carp.

It appears to be a very good fish to eat. The commercial fishermen who work kentucky and barkley lakes bring in huge numbers of them every time they go out. I'm sure if you were around when they brought a boat load in they would sell you a big one for a couple of bucks. In other words, they're cheap and easy to come by. And by all accounts, it's about impossible to fish them out.

There's a lot of food out there.
I haven't heard any shots around here lately so I don't think it's starting yet. Poaching does go on in this area though and always has as far back as I or my father and grandfather could remember. We've got a family up the road that is well known for doing it regularly. Many folks in the area know but don't report it because it's sort of accepted and lots of folks have done it themselves in lean times.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Grocery Stores are running out of food especially meat.





Costco. Noon today:

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We might get a little tired of free range pork, but we wont be going hungry....

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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by mjbgalt
Not true. Deer belong to no one. Those groceries are the stores property

The deer belong to the guberment , sonny. 🤨




Think not! Would love to seen a landowner charged for taking one out of season on their own property. A judge might convict but a juries verdict would take two minutes for not guilty and likely attempt to tar and feather the prosecutor. GW
Originally Posted by Whiptail

When should I start eating my neighbors?



Tomorrow, eat all the Democrats first, beware they will leave a bad taste in your mouth. GW
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No offense meant, but some here could 'waste away' for months and still be overweight.
It was around here until I built on the land and chased a few of them down the road couple of times.
Off for 2 weeks. Anyone every try coyote ?
Couple of things.

The first thing that disappears after societal collapse is game.

Also,it strikes me that most of America would be OK with a 5-6 week fast. Comfortable, no. OK, yes.
Originally Posted by RichardAustin
I've never considered someone feeding their family thru hunting out of season as a poacher.


Not poaching.........subsistence !

TOO much panic. NOT there yet....IF ever.
Originally Posted by RichardAustin
I've never considered someone feeding their family thru hunting out of season as a poacher.


Do you consider someone who steals something that doesnt belong to them a thief?

If you kill something out of season, you are a poacher. Period.

If you want to justify being a poacher, fine. Thats an entirely different conversation.

But lets not redefine things to make ourselves feel better about it. Thats a very DEmocrateIbProgressive thing to do.

I'd poach to feed my family if I exhausted all other legal options. I'd be a poacher, and a dad doing the right thing.
If you need to kill a deer so your family can eat I don't have much to say about it. They problems will start when you trespass onto my property to do it.

And if it ever gets bad enough that cows and livestock start turning up butchered in the fields....well...ranchers have families too and they're not generally the type to just roll over.
Growing up in the 70's I fished farm ponds in my county and in surrounding counties with my dad and a gentleman who would have been about the age of my grandfather. He grew up here and hunted and fished without regulations or licensing. He drove us around in a "68 iImpala with a shotgun in the trunk. I can recall him taking ducks and quail in the spring and fall when we encountered them. I never considered that poaching.

Sadly, there are almost no quail left here anymore. I have a place to hunt in SC that hosts flocks of geese and ducks.

I just wish I preferred duck and geese over quail.
I may have to start eating some of the pigs I catch.
Originally Posted by oldtimer303
Tomorrow, eat all the Democrats first, beware they will leave a bad taste in your mouth. GW
That's what Monica Lewinsky says about Democrats
Originally Posted by horse1
Before you go poaching deer @ 15-30# worth of meat each, maybe hop on the cattleman/stockman Assoc. website for your AO, then call a few and see who's got a giant old bull or dry old cow (turkeys, chickens, pigs, etc) in need of introduction to a grinder. Get a couple of neighbors together and get it paid for and processed. If you've got deer in the yard I guess you're not expending much in terms of effort or resources to harvest them. If one lives in town and is thinking of driving out and hunting, then buying an animal from a producer is going to get you a LOT more for a LOT less.No need to go full-on hunter/gatherer society here folks.
You'll find that a lot of people don't want to have a simple solution to a problem. My family were and still are rural livestock owners. During World War 2 meat was rationed for the proletariat. Our uncles owned a country store. They butchered a beef every week and furnished their small community with beef and in the winter with pork. The rationing didn't apply there. It was parceled out to everyone including a lot on credit. That sort of thing could be done right now in rural communities without a bunch of stealing and poaching.
REDUX - per Subsistence not poaching.





Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Only to stave off hunger, when there's no other option.

Necessity: A legal defense that permits a person to lawfully act in what would otherwise be a criminal manner when an emergency situation, not of the person's own creation, compels him to act in a criminal manner to avoid greater harm from occurring.


Thnx Hawkeye
I could bag about a zillion big fat gray squirrels in my back yard with a suppressed .22 and save a ton of money on bird food!
Patrick
It sounds like a lot of guys on here are just looking for a reason to poach rather than find a different solution.
Originally Posted by ammoman16
It sounds like a lot of guys on here are just looking for a reason to poach rather than find a different solution.


Gee, you figure?

Geno
Originally Posted by ammoman16
It sounds like a lot of guys on here are just looking for a reason to poach rather than find a different solution.



like become vegetarians?
Originally Posted by nealglen37
People that do live in a rural area (that do have at least 1 acre of land, and do not have a garden, chickens, or something..................would not know how to butcher a deer.


This is about the dumbest and most inaccurate post I've ever seen on the fire.
This early in our "crisis" it should not even be contemplated. poaching, like hoarding, is a crime against our society. GD
Originally Posted by greydog
This early in our "crisis" it should not even be contemplated. poaching, like hoarding, is a crime against our society. GD


Hoarding, a crime? GTFOH
Originally Posted by ammoman16
It sounds like a lot of guys on here are just looking for a reason to poach rather than find a different solution.



Like.....go to the grocery store, maybe?
Originally Posted by ammoman16
It sounds like a lot of guys on here are just looking for a reason to poach rather than find a different solution.


Excellent observation!
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by ammoman16
It sounds like a lot of guys on here are just looking for a reason to poach rather than find a different solution.


Excellent observation!


Yes, funny how some of us can see that !
Originally Posted by New_2_99s
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by ammoman16
It sounds like a lot of guys on here are just looking for a reason to poach rather than find a different solution.


Excellent observation!


Yes, funny how some of us can see that !


Like a beacon in the night!
I poached a ground squirrel yesterday, but it wasn't very tasty. Think I'll grill the next one.
Originally Posted by mirage243
Originally Posted by Boise
The food that was plentiful in all the stores is in homes now. Instead of poaching, stealing from the public, how about targeting those who cleaned out the stores. I would much rather see targeting of the hoarders over stealing of public game. Plus, how many deer are going to get killed by people without a clue of how to process it so the majority of the deer will be wasted.

Next step is hoarding of the public game. I have deer and turkey on my property every day. Should I kill as many as I can fit in my freezer now before someone else get them? This is the hoarder's mentality; a bunch of selfish Aholes.


So you are a socialist? You believe that everyone should have the same amount of food, just divide it all equally? Do you believe that about money also, we all get to have the same amount?


Not a socialist by any means, if you must put me in a bucket then rich capitalist may be the best. I believe some will use this panic as a reason to kill game animals. Like I told the warden who let a kid go, "for poaching a deer to feed his family", why doesn't he sell one of his guns to feed his family? How about the inner city youth's mother who said it wasn't fair to shoot her son when he was only robbing the store to feed his family, he was a good boy?

For the record, I believe:
Hoarding is wrong, hoarding contributes to the very problem you're hoarding to avoid but just making it worse for everyone else.
Game animals are a public asset. Poaching is similar to going to a government building and stealing furniture.
I don't believe everyone should have the same amount of anything except maybe freedom for law abiding citizens and the opportunity to make oneself better (as defined by the individual).
Originally Posted by Boise
The food that was plentiful in all the stores is in homes now. Instead of poaching, stealing from the public, how about targeting those who cleaned out the stores. I would much rather see targeting of the hoarders over stealing of public game.


"Lucy, you gots some 'splainin to do..."
I poached some sardines out of a can before.
Easy....we have some here that think hoarding is one of the highest forms of capitalism....and they brag about it.....
Originally Posted by battue
Easy....we have some here that think hoarding is one of the highest forms of capitalism....and they brag about it.....


What about if a fella hoards money, is that wrong too?
First thought would be money honestly accumulated is money earned and has nothing to do with hoarding. In addition there is a never ending supply of money available for those who know how to honestly make it. Money in that case isn't in short supply.

Cash or inventory. One in the same.
Inventory is only worth what you can turn it for. Boeing right now is sitting on 10's of million dollars of inventory they can't turn, and it is reflected in its current stock price.
Originally Posted by Boise
....

Not a socialist by any means, if you must put me in a bucket then rich capitalist may be the best. I believe some will use this panic as a reason to kill game animals. Like I told the warden who let a kid go, "for poaching a deer to feed his family", why doesn't he sell one of his guns to feed his family? How about the inner city youth's mother who said it wasn't fair to shoot her son when he was only robbing the store to feed his family, he was a good boy?

For the record, I believe:
Hoarding is wrong, hoarding contributes to the very problem you're hoarding to avoid but just making it worse for everyone else.
Game animals are a public asset. Poaching is similar to going to a government building and stealing furniture.
I don't believe everyone should have the same amount of anything except maybe freedom for law abiding citizens and the opportunity to make oneself better (as defined by the individual).


^
Worth reading twice.
Originally Posted by Crockettnj
Originally Posted by Boise
....

Not a socialist by any means, if you must put me in a bucket then rich capitalist may be the best. I believe some will use this panic as a reason to kill game animals. Like I told the warden who let a kid go, "for poaching a deer to feed his family", why doesn't he sell one of his guns to feed his family? How about the inner city youth's mother who said it wasn't fair to shoot her son when he was only robbing the store to feed his family, he was a good boy?

For the record, I believe:
Hoarding is wrong, hoarding contributes to the very problem you're hoarding to avoid but just making it worse for everyone else.
Game animals are a public asset. Poaching is similar to going to a government building and stealing furniture.
I don't believe everyone should have the same amount of anything except maybe freedom for law abiding citizens and the opportunity to make oneself better (as defined by the individual).


^
Worth reading twice.
How do you know the kid had more than one gun ? I've known lots of people who didn't. If you have a need to kill game for food the last thing you want to be doing is selling your one and only gun.
Rock has a good idea. We're not running out of meat, but zapping feral horses (no need for guns) and shipping it to France and Germany would be a mutually beneficial act of international comity.
There are situations where the law may be ignored and real hunger is one of those. Someone who has not experienced real hunger cannot comment on it because he has no understanding. I seriously doubt that anyone who is here on the 'fire is in any danger of starving anytime soon. I would not be surprised to learn that many could skip a few meals with no ill effects. As long as people are getting government money, they don't need to hunt for food. GD
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
If one can "justify" breaking the law for poaching purposes because you're hungry, then you're no different than the guy who shoplifts some food at the C-store because he's hungry, or even robs a bank because he's poorer than he wishes to be.

Once a person can "justify" breaking one law, then they can "justify" breaking them all since they have slipped into teleological thinking at the expense of deontological.

But I also suppose everyone on the 'Fire considers themselves virtuous while the next poacher over is simply vicious.


What a dumbasss thing to say, or believe. Like I said in another thread, if JG and company get hungry, I'm killing something regardless of 24HCF approval.


As I said: "I also suppose everyone on the 'Fire considers themselves virtuous while the next poacher over is simply vicious."
Originally Posted by RichardAustin
I've never considered someone feeding their family thru hunting out of season as a poacher.



How about when they have thousands of dollars of tattoos, 3 thousand dollar rims on their vehicles, kids have diamond earrings, multiple tv's, plenty of money for cigs, booze, weed, atv's, boats etc? Seems to be the case everywhere
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by RichardAustin
I've never considered someone feeding their family thru hunting out of season as a poacher.



How about when they have thousands of dollars of tattoos, 3 thousand dollar rims on their vehicles, kids have diamond earrings, multiple tv's, plenty of money for cigs, booze, weed, atv's, boats etc? Seems to be the case everywhere


Yep, good question.
Originally Posted by ribka
[quote=RichardAustin]I've never considered someone feeding their family thru hunting out of season as a poacher.



. A few of my neighbors with schitbag kids who still lived at home as adults used to say they poached to feed themselves but they always had plenty to buy non essential schit and worked only part time seasonal labor.

They always seem to poach nice bucks and bull elk too. Poor starving souls. I understand their need to poach
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Crockettnj
Originally Posted by Boise
....

Not a socialist by any means, if you must put me in a bucket then rich capitalist may be the best. I believe some will use this panic as a reason to kill game animals. Like I told the warden who let a kid go, "for poaching a deer to feed his family", why doesn't he sell one of his guns to feed his family? How about the inner city youth's mother who said it wasn't fair to shoot her son when he was only robbing the store to feed his family, he was a good boy?

For the record, I believe:
Hoarding is wrong, hoarding contributes to the very problem you're hoarding to avoid but just making it worse for everyone else.
Game animals are a public asset. Poaching is similar to going to a government building and stealing furniture.
I don't believe everyone should have the same amount of anything except maybe freedom for law abiding citizens and the opportunity to make oneself better (as defined by the individual).


^
Worth reading twice.
How do you know the kid had more than one gun ? I've known lots of people who didn't. If you have a need to kill game for food the last thing you want to be doing is selling your one and only gun.


In answer to your question: I had stopped at a remote game check station, per the law, and was being written up for failure to have my hunting license. I had one but not on me. A junker car car pulls in and the couple immediately starts b1tching at the warden about him writing up this kid for poaching a deer; it wasn't their kid. The warden stopped what he was doing, made me wait, and addressed them. First thing he said was he had just recently let the same kid go after catching him poaching a deer. Said the kid was a known poacher and had been on their radar for sometime. From what the warden was being told by others was the kid was killing all sorts of game and not just deer. When the couple said he had to poach deer to feed his family I piped up and asked why he didn't get a job or sell his rifle? If my memory serves me right, I believe my comment ended the conversation and the warden went back to writing me a ticket and the couple left. Before leaving I said something to the effect, so you let the kid get away poaching a deer and you're writing me up for not having my license on me, me a guy in a brand new pick up with a beautiful pointing dog like I'm your biggest problem. I no longer stop at check stations, the wardens aren't my friends they're just there looking for some reason to write you up.
Originally Posted by Boise
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Crockettnj
Originally Posted by Boise
....

Not a socialist by any means, if you must put me in a bucket then rich capitalist may be the best. I believe some will use this panic as a reason to kill game animals. Like I told the warden who let a kid go, "for poaching a deer to feed his family", why doesn't he sell one of his guns to feed his family? How about the inner city youth's mother who said it wasn't fair to shoot her son when he was only robbing the store to feed his family, he was a good boy?

For the record, I believe:
Hoarding is wrong, hoarding contributes to the very problem you're hoarding to avoid but just making it worse for everyone else.
Game animals are a public asset. Poaching is similar to going to a government building and stealing furniture.
I don't believe everyone should have the same amount of anything except maybe freedom for law abiding citizens and the opportunity to make oneself better (as defined by the individual).


^
Worth reading twice.
How do you know the kid had more than one gun ? I've known lots of people who didn't. If you have a need to kill game for food the last thing you want to be doing is selling your one and only gun.


In answer to your question: I had stopped at a remote game check station, per the law, and was being written up for failure to have my hunting license. I had one but not on me. A junker car car pulls in and the couple immediately starts b1tching at the warden about him writing up this kid for poaching a deer; it wasn't their kid. The warden stopped what he was doing, made me wait, and addressed them. First thing he said was he had just recently let the same kid go after catching him poaching a deer. Said the kid was a known poacher and had been on their radar for sometime. From what the warden was being told by others was the kid was killing all sorts of game and not just deer. When the couple said he had to poach deer to feed his family I piped up and asked why he didn't get a job or sell his rifle? If my memory serves me right, I believe my comment ended the conversation and the warden went back to writing me a ticket and the couple left. Before leaving I said something to the effect, so you let the kid get away poaching a deer and you're writing me up for not having my license on me, me a guy in a brand new pick up with a beautiful pointing dog like I'm your biggest problem. I no longer stop at check stations, the wardens aren't my friends they're just there looking for some reason to write you up.
Yeah well maybe that's your story but I've got another one. There was a time in my life when I only had one .22 rifle to my name and despite the fact that I had a full time job sometimes there wasn't enough money to buy groceries. The last thing I would have sold is that .22 rifle as it and a 79 cent box of Remington Mohawk .22 LR's was the only thing standing between me and hunger.
Americans don't know what hunger is. You need to travel and see what hunger really is. I ve worked 3 jobs to to get by so have many others.

Like all starving poachers I bet you were never willing to move for work and still live 10 miles from where you grew up or are living at home with your parents like most poachers.


Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Boise
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Crockettnj
Originally Posted by Boise
....

Not a socialist by any means, if you must put me in a bucket then rich capitalist may be the best. I believe some will use this panic as a reason to kill game animals. Like I told the warden who let a kid go, "for poaching a deer to feed his family", why doesn't he sell one of his guns to feed his family? How about the inner city youth's mother who said it wasn't fair to shoot her son when he was only robbing the store to feed his family, he was a good boy?

For the record, I believe:
Hoarding is wrong, hoarding contributes to the very problem you're hoarding to avoid but just making it worse for everyone else.
Game animals are a public asset. Poaching is similar to going to a government building and stealing furniture.
I don't believe everyone should have the same amount of anything except maybe freedom for law abiding citizens and the opportunity to make oneself better (as defined by the individual).


^
Worth reading twice.
How do you know the kid had more than one gun ? I've known lots of people who didn't. If you have a need to kill game for food the last thing you want to be doing is selling your one and only gun.


In answer to your question: I had stopped at a remote game check station, per the law, and was being written up for failure to have my hunting license. I had one but not on me. A junker car car pulls in and the couple immediately starts b1tching at the warden about him writing up this kid for poaching a deer; it wasn't their kid. The warden stopped what he was doing, made me wait, and addressed them. First thing he said was he had just recently let the same kid go after catching him poaching a deer. Said the kid was a known poacher and had been on their radar for sometime. From what the warden was being told by others was the kid was killing all sorts of game and not just deer. When the couple said he had to poach deer to feed his family I piped up and asked why he didn't get a job or sell his rifle? If my memory serves me right, I believe my comment ended the conversation and the warden went back to writing me a ticket and the couple left. Before leaving I said something to the effect, so you let the kid get away poaching a deer and you're writing me up for not having my license on me, me a guy in a brand new pick up with a beautiful pointing dog like I'm your biggest problem. I no longer stop at check stations, the wardens aren't my friends they're just there looking for some reason to write you up.
Yeah well maybe that's your story but I've got another one. There was a time in my life when I only had one .22 rifle to my name and despite the fact that I had a full time job sometimes there wasn't enough money to buy groceries. The last thing I would have sold is that .22 rifle as it and a 79 cent box of Remington Mohawk .22 LR's was the only thing standing between me and hunger.
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Boise
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Crockettnj
Originally Posted by Boise
....

Not a socialist by any means, if you must put me in a bucket then rich capitalist may be the best. I believe some will use this panic as a reason to kill game animals. Like I told the warden who let a kid go, "for poaching a deer to feed his family", why doesn't he sell one of his guns to feed his family? How about the inner city youth's mother who said it wasn't fair to shoot her son when he was only robbing the store to feed his family, he was a good boy?

For the record, I believe:
Hoarding is wrong, hoarding contributes to the very problem you're hoarding to avoid but just making it worse for everyone else.
Game animals are a public asset. Poaching is similar to going to a government building and stealing furniture.
I don't believe everyone should have the same amount of anything except maybe freedom for law abiding citizens and the opportunity to make oneself better (as defined by the individual).


^
Worth reading twice.
How do you know the kid had more than one gun ? I've known lots of people who didn't. If you have a need to kill game for food the last thing you want to be doing is selling your one and only gun.


In answer to your question: I had stopped at a remote game check station, per the law, and was being written up for failure to have my hunting license. I had one but not on me. A junker car car pulls in and the couple immediately starts b1tching at the warden about him writing up this kid for poaching a deer; it wasn't their kid. The warden stopped what he was doing, made me wait, and addressed them. First thing he said was he had just recently let the same kid go after catching him poaching a deer. Said the kid was a known poacher and had been on their radar for sometime. From what the warden was being told by others was the kid was killing all sorts of game and not just deer. When the couple said he had to poach deer to feed his family I piped up and asked why he didn't get a job or sell his rifle? If my memory serves me right, I believe my comment ended the conversation and the warden went back to writing me a ticket and the couple left. Before leaving I said something to the effect, so you let the kid get away poaching a deer and you're writing me up for not having my license on me, me a guy in a brand new pick up with a beautiful pointing dog like I'm your biggest problem. I no longer stop at check stations, the wardens aren't my friends they're just there looking for some reason to write you up.
Yeah well maybe that's your story but I've got another one. There was a time in my life when I only had one .22 rifle to my name and despite the fact that I had a full time job sometimes there wasn't enough money to buy groceries. The last thing I would have sold is that .22 rifle as it and a 79 cent box of Remington Mohawk .22 LR's was the only thing standing between me and hunger.

Never in my life have I been at the point where I needed to poach. Have been told I was lucky to have been able to work full time while attending the university full time. This poaching kid lived in an area and time where jobs were plentiful but will admit I don't know his entire story. Just know when I was young and growing up there were numerous poachers and they're circumstances didn't dictate their need to poach. I know of two cases where a poacher shot a deer just to try out their new rifle.
Everyone's a poor victim and can justify their criminal and lazy behavior


Originally Posted by Boise
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Boise
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Crockettnj
Originally Posted by Boise
....

Not a socialist by any means, if you must put me in a bucket then rich capitalist may be the best. I believe some will use this panic as a reason to kill game animals. Like I told the warden who let a kid go, "for poaching a deer to feed his family", why doesn't he sell one of his guns to feed his family? How about the inner city youth's mother who said it wasn't fair to shoot her son when he was only robbing the store to feed his family, he was a good boy?

For the record, I believe:
Hoarding is wrong, hoarding contributes to the very problem you're hoarding to avoid but just making it worse for everyone else.
Game animals are a public asset. Poaching is similar to going to a government building and stealing furniture.
I don't believe everyone should have the same amount of anything except maybe freedom for law abiding citizens and the opportunity to make oneself better (as defined by the individual).


^
Worth reading twice.
How do you know the kid had more than one gun ? I've known lots of people who didn't. If you have a need to kill game for food the last thing you want to be doing is selling your one and only gun.


In answer to your question: I had stopped at a remote game check station, per the law, and was being written up for failure to have my hunting license. I had one but not on me. A junker car car pulls in and the couple immediately starts b1tching at the warden about him writing up this kid for poaching a deer; it wasn't their kid. The warden stopped what he was doing, made me wait, and addressed them. First thing he said was he had just recently let the same kid go after catching him poaching a deer. Said the kid was a known poacher and had been on their radar for sometime. From what the warden was being told by others was the kid was killing all sorts of game and not just deer. When the couple said he had to poach deer to feed his family I piped up and asked why he didn't get a job or sell his rifle? If my memory serves me right, I believe my comment ended the conversation and the warden went back to writing me a ticket and the couple left. Before leaving I said something to the effect, so you let the kid get away poaching a deer and you're writing me up for not having my license on me, me a guy in a brand new pick up with a beautiful pointing dog like I'm your biggest problem. I no longer stop at check stations, the wardens aren't my friends they're just there looking for some reason to write you up.
Yeah well maybe that's your story but I've got another one. There was a time in my life when I only had one .22 rifle to my name and despite the fact that I had a full time job sometimes there wasn't enough money to buy groceries. The last thing I would have sold is that .22 rifle as it and a 79 cent box of Remington Mohawk .22 LR's was the only thing standing between me and hunger.

Never in my life have I been at the point where I needed to poach. Have been told I was lucky to have been able to work full time while attending the university full time. This poaching kid lived in an area and time where jobs were plentiful but will admit I don't know his entire story. Just know when I was young and growing up there were numerous poachers and they're circumstances didn't dictate their need to poach. I know of two cases where a poacher shot a deer just to try out their new rifle.
Originally Posted by ribka

Americans don't know what hunger is. You need to travel and see what hunger really is. I ve worked 3 jobs to to get by so have many others.


Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Boise
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Crockettnj
Originally Posted by Boise
....

Not a socialist by any means, if you must put me in a bucket then rich capitalist may be the best. I believe some will use this panic as a reason to kill game animals. Like I told the warden who let a kid go, "for poaching a deer to feed his family", why doesn't he sell one of his guns to feed his family? How about the inner city youth's mother who said it wasn't fair to shoot her son when he was only robbing the store to feed his family, he was a good boy?

For the record, I believe:
Hoarding is wrong, hoarding contributes to the very problem you're hoarding to avoid but just making it worse for everyone else.
Game animals are a public asset. Poaching is similar to going to a government building and stealing furniture.
I don't believe everyone should have the same amount of anything except maybe freedom for law abiding citizens and the opportunity to make oneself better (as defined by the individual).


^
Worth reading twice.
How do you know the kid had more than one gun ? I've known lots of people who didn't. If you have a need to kill game for food the last thing you want to be doing is selling your one and only gun.


In answer to your question: I had stopped at a remote game check station, per the law, and was being written up for failure to have my hunting license. I had one but not on me. A junker car car pulls in and the couple immediately starts b1tching at the warden about him writing up this kid for poaching a deer; it wasn't their kid. The warden stopped what he was doing, made me wait, and addressed them. First thing he said was he had just recently let the same kid go after catching him poaching a deer. Said the kid was a known poacher and had been on their radar for sometime. From what the warden was being told by others was the kid was killing all sorts of game and not just deer. When the couple said he had to poach deer to feed his family I piped up and asked why he didn't get a job or sell his rifle? If my memory serves me right, I believe my comment ended the conversation and the warden went back to writing me a ticket and the couple left. Before leaving I said something to the effect, so you let the kid get away poaching a deer and you're writing me up for not having my license on me, me a guy in a brand new pick up with a beautiful pointing dog like I'm your biggest problem. I no longer stop at check stations, the wardens aren't my friends they're just there looking for some reason to write you up.
Yeah well maybe that's your story but I've got another one. There was a time in my life when I only had one .22 rifle to my name and despite the fact that I had a full time job sometimes there wasn't enough money to buy groceries. The last thing I would have sold is that .22 rifle as it and a 79 cent box of Remington Mohawk .22 LR's was the only thing standing between me and hunger.
Well goody for you you sanctimonious ass hole. In order to work three jobs you've got to be able to find three jobs. That isn't always possible in rural areas, especially in times of recession. At the time I was having difficulty with grocery money I had two small children at home and believe me I didn't give a rats pink ass about your opinion or anybody else's. Frankly I still don't.
I would respectfully suggest that your response indicates that you actually do.
Originally Posted by 5sdad
I would respectfully suggest that your response indicates that you actually do.
Nope I don't give a shYt what anybody here thinks of me. I do get pissed at folks who give their sanctimoNious opinions about something they don't know a goddam thing about. Most of these fuggerS have never really had it hard or been hungry with no food in the house and no money to buy any. It's easy to see that very few here have ever really experienced hard times by how the little puzzies whine about not being able to get this or that or go here or there during this covid outbreak. Aww the poor dears.

Wardens are known to go for low hanging fruit. I had a lot of deer and elk being poached by house and neighbors' live stock were being shot and left. I offered the game wardens to come stay at my house, put a robo deer on my property to catch the poachers. They said too busy. The poaching ring was caught about a year later during a search warrant for meth. Found over 50 deer and elk remains on their property a few big horn sheep skulls. A family on welfare of course with 3 adult boys ( meth heads) still living at home.

Ive been checked fly fishing by wardens to ensure my barbs were pinched on my size 14 ehc. They ticketed my buddy because his barbs were pinched enough. $125 fine. A 100 yards down the river a few families of Mexicans were bait fishing,( not legal) making a mess leaving trash, dirty diapers, empty beer cans everywhere, built a fire which was illegal. and I asked the wardens why they don't ticket and they said they didn't speak Spanish.



Originally Posted by Boise
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Crockettnj
Originally Posted by Boise
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Not a socialist by any means, if you must put me in a bucket then rich capitalist may be the best. I believe some will use this panic as a reason to kill game animals. Like I told the warden who let a kid go, "for poaching a deer to feed his family", why doesn't he sell one of his guns to feed his family? How about the inner city youth's mother who said it wasn't fair to shoot her son when he was only robbing the store to feed his family, he was a good boy?

For the record, I believe:
Hoarding is wrong, hoarding contributes to the very problem you're hoarding to avoid but just making it worse for everyone else.
Game animals are a public asset. Poaching is similar to going to a government building and stealing furniture.
I don't believe everyone should have the same amount of anything except maybe freedom for law abiding citizens and the opportunity to make oneself better (as defined by the individual).


^
Worth reading twice.
How do you know the kid had more than one gun ? I've known lots of people who didn't. If you have a need to kill game for food the last thing you want to be doing is selling your one and only gun.


In answer to your question: I had stopped at a remote game check station, per the law, and was being written up for failure to have my hunting license. I had one but not on me. A junker car car pulls in and the couple immediately starts b1tching at the warden about him writing up this kid for poaching a deer; it wasn't their kid. The warden stopped what he was doing, made me wait, and addressed them. First thing he said was he had just recently let the same kid go after catching him poaching a deer. Said the kid was a known poacher and had been on their radar for sometime. From what the warden was being told by others was the kid was killing all sorts of game and not just deer. When the couple said he had to poach deer to feed his family I piped up and asked why he didn't get a job or sell his rifle? If my memory serves me right, I believe my comment ended the conversation and the warden went back to writing me a ticket and the couple left. Before leaving I said something to the effect, so you let the kid get away poaching a deer and you're writing me up for not having my license on me, me a guy in a brand new pick up with a beautiful pointing dog like I'm your biggest problem. I no longer stop at check stations, the wardens aren't my friends they're just there looking for some reason to write you up.
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by 5sdad
I would respectfully suggest that your response indicates that you actually do.
Nope I don't give a sht what anybody here thinks of me. I do getr pissed at folks who give their sanctimoious opinions about something they don't know a goddam thing about. Most of these fugger have never really had it hard or been hungry with no food in the house and no money to buy any.


I grew up in a town of 700 people in rural NW Wi. I started a paper route at age 8 and worked every summer like my brothers and sister. I knew at the age of 8 there was no future there like my siblings and we all went to college far away ( we all paid for our college) and then joined the military to pay off loans and grad school.

Too lazyy to move to find work and apparently too frightened to join the military to improve your lot in life. Going to set up a go fund me for your poor poor soul. Hope you don't starve to death before I can raise the funds lol

I always buy turkeys after thanksgiving and freeze them. Used to be less than20 cents a pound back in 80's. But I wasn't raised to be a victim and poach
Game Wardens.....Wow....Just fkn’n wow! 😎
Originally Posted by hanco
I may have to start eating some of the pigs I catch.

Could you catch them and feed them like they do feeder pigs in the houses? Would it improve the meat/taste? I guess it might just as cheap to go to the pork outlet and buy the cuts you want.
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by 5sdad
I would respectfully suggest that your response indicates that you actually do.
Nope I don't give a sht what anybody here thinks of me. I do getr pissed at folks who give their sanctimoious opinions about something they don't know a goddam thing about. Most of these fugger have never really had it hard or been hungry with no food in the house and no money to buy any.


Too lazyy to move to find work and apparently too frightened to join the military to improve your lot in life. Going to set up a go fund me for your poor poor soul. Hope you don't starve to death before I can raise the funds lol
Hard to move when you don't even have enough money to buy groceries don't you think ass hole ? And joining the army wasn't high on my list of things to do at the time with two small children. I couldn't join anyway as I'd already tried a couple years prior and was told I could not because of an injury to my achilles tendon which has me listed to this day as partially and permanently disabled. I'm not comp[laining at all now. I have enough in savings to go six months at least without income. This in spite of the fact that I just spent 11k on a vehicle a few weeks ago and paid for it in cash, Not bad considering the fact that I lost my home and 90% of my belongings in 2006 to a flood and had to start over. I have one more mortgage payment due next month and then I am debt free.
I knew to not to get married and start a family until my life and career and saving were established. No one is too blame except for your poor life decisions. Of course now I have to pay for peoples' lack of intelligence with my taxes. Keep on poaching you poor starving soul.


Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by 5sdad
I would respectfully suggest that your response indicates that you actually do.
Nope I don't give a sht what anybody here thinks of me. I do getr pissed at folks who give their sanctimoious opinions about something they don't know a goddam thing about. Most of these fugger have never really had it hard or been hungry with no food in the house and no money to buy any.


Too lazyy to move to find work and apparently too frightened to join the military to improve your lot in life. Going to set up a go fund me for your poor poor soul. Hope you don't starve to death before I can raise the funds lol
Hard to move when you don't even have enogh money to but groceries don't you think ass hole ? And joining the army wasn't high on my list of things to do at the time with two small children. I couldn't join anyway as I'd already tried a couple years prior and was to;d I could not because of an injury to my achilles tendon which has me listed to this day as partially and permanently disabled.
Originally Posted by mjbgalt
Not true. Deer belong to no one. Those groceries are the stores property

BullCookies, the wildlife belongs to all the residents of the state. Poaching is stealing from everyone. I'd turn your ass in.
Originally Posted by ribka
I knew to not to get married and start a family until my life and career and saving were established. No one is too blame except for your poor life decisions. Of course now I have to pay for peoples' lack of intelligence with my taxes. Keep on poaching you poor starving soul.


Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by 5sdad
I would respectfully suggest that your response indicates that you actually do.
Nope I don't give a sht what anybody here thinks of me. I do getr pissed at folks who give their sanctimoious opinions about something they don't know a goddam thing about. Most of these fugger have never really had it hard or been hungry with no food in the house and no money to buy any.


Too lazyy to move to find work and apparently too frightened to join the military to improve your lot in life. Going to set up a go fund me for your poor poor soul. Hope you don't starve to death before I can raise the funds lol
Hard to move when you don't even have enogh money to but groceries don't you think ass hole ? And joining the army wasn't high on my list of things to do at the time with two small children. I couldn't join anyway as I'd already tried a couple years prior and was to;d I could not because of an injury to my achilles tendon which has me listed to this day as partially and permanently disabled.
I had a good job when I got married you stupid f.uck. Life is full of ups and downs for most people. My dad lost his job of 30 years when he was in his mid 50's and the company he worked for closed it;s doors and moved to Mexico. He couldn't find another in his field as a technical writer and ended up having to take a menial job making 1/3 of what he had been to get by till retirement. Not everybody has a silver spoon or lucky star stuck up their ass from birth to death.
I knew to not to get married and start a family until my life and career and saving were established. No one is to blame except for your poor life decisions. Of course now I have to pay for peoples' lack of intelligence with my taxes. Keep on poaching you poor starving soul.


I wish I only had achilles tendon problems. Thats a minor health problem compared who Ive went through and others. My neighbor has had MS for 10 years, wheelchair bound now for past 4 years, college Econ professor at local university. Cant use his right side of body now. His wife drives him to work every day. He's an immigrant who came from a communist country and understands what poor and starving is. I still take him out every elk season in his wheelchair. He would never poach.

No sympathy for you and your poaching. Gonna guess you didn't study too hard in HS. That seems to be a recurring theme with poachers too.


Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by 5sdad
I would respectfully suggest that your response indicates that you actually do.
Nope I don't give a sht what anybody here thinks of me. I do getr pissed at folks who give their sanctimoious opinions about something they don't know a goddam thing about. Most of these fugger have never really had it hard or been hungry with no food in the house and no money to buy any.


Too lazyy to move to find work and apparently too frightened to join the military to improve your lot in life. Going to set up a go fund me for your poor poor soul. Hope you don't starve to death before I can raise the funds lol
Hard to move when you don't even have enogh money to but groceries don't you think ass hole ? And joining the army wasn't high on my list of things to do at the time with two small children. I couldn't join anyway as I'd already tried a couple years prior and was to;d I could not because of an injury to my achilles tendon which has me listed to this day as partially and permanently disabled.
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Nope I don't give a shYt what anybody here thinks of me. I do get pissed at folks who give their sanctimoNious opinions about something they don't know a goddam thing about. Most of these fuggerS have never really had it hard or been hungry with no food in the house and no money to buy any. It's easy to see that very few here have ever really experienced hard times by how the little puzzies whine about not being able to get this or that or go here or there during this covid outbreak. Aww the poor dears.


There is some truth to this,maybe alot...

To start with,I am against wasteful poaching and have turned some in with some tense moments...

Example:
Years ago the North Idaho Silver Valley mines just shut down without much or no warning..Hundreds were without a paycheck immediately,some did not qualify for unemployment and most did not qualify for welfare with a man in the household but the families still needed to eat and feed the kids..I lived there then working green chain at a mill up the river at the time...We all talked about the need for them to feed there families and those that could help..Did...

Would I have turned one of them in for taking a game animal out of season to feed there kids...HELL NO....

But that's just me and most everyone one there at the time that new what really happened not was was put on the news by the mines...
Originally Posted by ribka
I knew to not to get married and start a family until my life and career and saving were established. No one is to blame except for your poor life decisions. Of course now I have to pay for peoples' lack of intelligence with my taxes. Keep on poaching you poor starving soul.


I wish I only had achilles tendon problems. Thats a minor health problem compared who Ive went through and others. My neighbor has had MS for 10 years, wheelchair bound now for past 4 years, college Econ professor at local university. Cant use his right side of body now. His wife drives him to work every day. He's an immigrant who came from a communist country and understands what poor and starving is. I still take him out every elk season in his wheelchair. He would never poach.

No sympathy for you and your poaching. Gonna guess you didn't study too hard in HS. That seems to be a recurring theme with poachers too.


Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by 5sdad
I would respectfully suggest that your response indicates that you actually do.
Nope I don't give a sht what anybody here thinks of me. I do getr pissed at folks who give their sanctimoious opinions about something they don't know a goddam thing about. Most of these fugger have never really had it hard or been hungry with no food in the house and no money to buy any.


Too lazyy to move to find work and apparently too frightened to join the military to improve your lot in life. Going to set up a go fund me for your poor poor soul. Hope you don't starve to death before I can raise the funds lol
Hard to move when you don't even have enogh money to but groceries don't you think ass hole ? And joining the army wasn't high on my list of things to do at the time with two small children. I couldn't join anyway as I'd already tried a couple years prior and was to;d I could not because of an injury to my achilles tendon which has me listed to this day as partially and permanently disabled.
You are one dumb, judgemental son of a bitch ! My achilles tendon was nearly cut in half on the job. I could have stayed on disabilty for my entire adult life and did not. In fact against my doctors advice I went back to work less than a year later and had to sign a waiver stating I knew the risks { Tendons never heal fully and if I broke it I'd lose control of my foot and be wearing a brace from the knee down for the rest of my life} and was willing to do so against the advice of an orthopedic specialist. That was almost 40 years ago and I've been working ever since, despite the fact that I now have several more health issues that would easily qualify me for disability, so stick it in your ass you cock sucker.
Did they put money away every paycheck to prepare for down times or did they live pay check to paycheck and have new trucks they couldn't afford, atv's, boats, tattoos, new tv's every years, every kid have a new cell phone etc? Every logging and mining area in the PNW where I live you see a lot of toys, boats, atv's new trucks in everyone's yard.

You see this every year in the oil patch. Making 6 figures, buying 60 k pick ups, going out to eat every day, no saving and goes bust and have to sell everything.

I lived on cans of expired tuna and ramen noodles in college and worked 30 hours a week carrying a full load.




Originally Posted by logcutter
Quote
Nope I don't give a shYt what anybody here thinks of me. I do get pissed at folks who give their sanctimoNious opinions about something they don't know a goddam thing about. Most of these fuggerS have never really had it hard or been hungry with no food in the house and no money to buy any. It's easy to see that very few here have ever really experienced hard times by how the little puzzies whine about not being able to get this or that or go here or there during this covid outbreak. Aww the poor dears.


There is some truth to this,maybe alot...

To start with,I am against wasteful poaching and have turned some in with some tense moments...

Example:
Years ago the North Idaho Silver Valley mines just shut down without much or no warning..Hundreds were without a paycheck immediately,some did not qualify for unemployment and most did not qualify for welfare with a man in the household but the families still needed to eat and feed the kids..I lived there then working green chain at a mill up the river at the time...We all talked about the need for them to feed there families and those that could help..Did...

Would I have turned one of them in for taking a game animal out of season to feed there kids...HELL NO....

But that's just me and most everyone one there at the time that new what really happened not was was put on the news by the mines...

Being a disabled combat vet I have no idea how much you suffered lol

I wish I only suffered an achilles tendon issue

Id still turn you in for poaching


Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by ribka
I knew to not to get married and start a family until my life and career and saving were established. No one is to blame except for your poor life decisions. Of course now I have to pay for peoples' lack of intelligence with my taxes. Keep on poaching you poor starving soul.


I wish I only had achilles tendon problems. Thats a minor health problem compared who Ive went through and others. My neighbor has had MS for 10 years, wheelchair bound now for past 4 years, college Econ professor at local university. Cant use his right side of body now. His wife drives him to work every day. He's an immigrant who came from a communist country and understands what poor and starving is. I still take him out every elk season in his wheelchair. He would never poach.

No sympathy for you and your poaching. Gonna guess you didn't study too hard in HS. That seems to be a recurring theme with poachers too.


Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by 5sdad
I would respectfully suggest that your response indicates that you actually do.
Nope I don't give a sht what anybody here thinks of me. I do getr pissed at folks who give their sanctimoious opinions about something they don't know a goddam thing about. Most of these fugger have never really had it hard or been hungry with no food in the house and no money to buy any.


Too lazyy to move to find work and apparently too frightened to join the military to improve your lot in life. Going to set up a go fund me for your poor poor soul. Hope you don't starve to death before I can raise the funds lol
Hard to move when you don't even have enogh money to but groceries don't you think ass hole ? And joining the army wasn't high on my list of things to do at the time with two small children. I couldn't join anyway as I'd already tried a couple years prior and was to;d I could not because of an injury to my achilles tendon which has me listed to this day as partially and permanently disabled.
You are one dumb, judgemental son of a bitch ! My achilles tendon was nearly cut in half on the job. I could have stayed on ss disabilty for my entire adult life and did not. In fact against my doctors advice I went back to work less than a year later and had to sign a waiver staing I knew the risks and was willing to do so against the advice of an orthopedic specialist to do so. That was almost 40 years ago and I've been working ever since, despite the fact that I now have several more health issues that would easily qualify me for disability, so stick it in your ass you cock sucker.

Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by 5sdad
I would respectfully suggest that your response indicates that you actually do.
Nope I don't give a sht what anybody here thinks of me. I do getr pissed at folks who give their sanctimoious opinions about something they don't know a goddam thing about. Most of these fugger have never really had it hard or been hungry with no food in the house and no money to buy any.


Too lazyy to move to find work and apparently too frightened to join the military to improve your lot in life. Going to set up a go fund me for your poor poor soul. Hope you don't starve to death before I can raise the funds lol
Hard to move when you don't even have enough money to buy groceries don't you think ass hole ? And joining the army wasn't high on my list of things to do at the time with two small children. I couldn't join anyway as I'd already tried a couple years prior and was told I could not because of an injury to my achilles tendon which has me listed to this day as partially and permanently disabled. I'm not comp[laining at all now. I have enough in savings to go six months at least without income. This in spite of the fact that I just spent 11k on a vehicle a few weeks ago and paid for it in cash, Not bad considering the fact that I lost my home and 90% of my belongings in 2006 to a flood and had to start over. I have one more mortgage payment due next month and then I am debt free.


What about your mountain hunting exploits?
Originally Posted by ribka
Did they put money away every paycheck to prepare for down times or did they live pay check to paycheck and have new trucks they couldn't afford, atv's, boats, tattoos, new tv's every years, every kid have a new cell phone etc? Every logging and mining area in the PNW where I live you see a lot of toys, boats, atv's new trucks in everyone's yard.

You see this every year in the oil patch. Making 6 figures, buying 60 k pick ups, going out to eat every day, no saving and goes bust and have to sell everything.

I lived on cans of expired tuna and ramen noodles in college and worked 30 hours a week carrying a full load.




Originally Posted by logcutter
Quote
Nope I don't give a shYt what anybody here thinks of me. I do get pissed at folks who give their sanctimoNious opinions about something they don't know a goddam thing about. Most of these fuggerS have never really had it hard or been hungry with no food in the house and no money to buy any. It's easy to see that very few here have ever really experienced hard times by how the little puzzies whine about not being able to get this or that or go here or there during this covid outbreak. Aww the poor dears.


There is some truth to this,maybe alot...

To start with,I am against wasteful poaching and have turned some in with some tense moments...

Example:
Years ago the North Idaho Silver Valley mines just shut down without much or no warning..Hundreds were without a paycheck immediately,some did not qualify for unemployment and most did not qualify for welfare with a man in the household but the families still needed to eat and feed the kids..I lived there then working green chain at a mill up the river at the time...We all talked about the need for them to feed there families and those that could help..Did...

Would I have turned one of them in for taking a game animal out of season to feed there kids...HELL NO....

But that's just me and most everyone one there at the time that new what really happened not was was put on the news by the mines...

Yeah, nobody's ever had it as tough as you. You want a medal ?
Originally Posted by GregW
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by 5sdad
I would respectfully suggest that your response indicates that you actually do.
Nope I don't give a sht what anybody here thinks of me. I do getr pissed at folks who give their sanctimoious opinions about something they don't know a goddam thing about. Most of these fugger have never really had it hard or been hungry with no food in the house and no money to buy any.


Too lazyy to move to find work and apparently too frightened to join the military to improve your lot in life. Going to set up a go fund me for your poor poor soul. Hope you don't starve to death before I can raise the funds lol
Hard to move when you don't even have enough money to buy groceries don't you think ass hole ? And joining the army wasn't high on my list of things to do at the time with two small children. I couldn't join anyway as I'd already tried a couple years prior and was told I could not because of an injury to my achilles tendon which has me listed to this day as partially and permanently disabled. I'm not comp[laining at all now. I have enough in savings to go six months at least without income. This in spite of the fact that I just spent 11k on a vehicle a few weeks ago and paid for it in cash, Not bad considering the fact that I lost my home and 90% of my belongings in 2006 to a flood and had to start over. I have one more mortgage payment due next month and then I am debt free.


What about your mountain hunting exploits?
What about it you shythead mother f.ucker ?
five hip replacements, shot in back, IED explosion, helicopter crash, fused neck ( lost use of left arm due to nerve damage in neck for a year have 50 per cent use now) , hit by a car chasing a drug dealer, shot during a search warrant in a drug house in Philadelphia, from the military and 27 years in law enforcement and still moving after years of PT. Plus all the dead bodies and smells you never forget. And Pt and stretching every day. I dtake a single achilles tendon issue and day and an easy life like greg's.

I work now doing volunteer work with wounded vets taking them hunting and fly fishing. They have a lot worse than me so am thankful I am still somewhat mobile. I have to use hiking poles when I walk and hike because my balance is plugged up. I hunted in elk camp five years on crutches just to get out. I have no handicap sticker on truck even though qualify and could qualify for handicap license and get special hunts, reduced license which I feel I don't qualify.

And I beat colon cancer in Dec 2018. Still have a few stomach issues.

I'd trade places with you Greg in a second

Originally Posted by GregW
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by 5sdad
I would respectfully suggest that your response indicates that you actually do.
Nope I don't give a sht what anybody here thinks of me. I do getr pissed at folks who give their sanctimoious opinions about something they don't know a goddam thing about. Most of these fugger have never really had it hard or been hungry with no food in the house and no money to buy any.


Too lazyy to move to find work and apparently too frightened to join the military to improve your lot in life. Going to set up a go fund me for your poor poor soul. Hope you don't starve to death before I can raise the funds lol
Hard to move when you don't even have enough money to buy groceries don't you think ass hole ? And joining the army wasn't high on my list of things to do at the time with two small children. I couldn't join anyway as I'd already tried a couple years prior and was told I could not because of an injury to my achilles tendon which has me listed to this day as partially and permanently disabled. I'm not comp[laining at all now. I have enough in savings to go six months at least without income. This in spite of the fact that I just spent 11k on a vehicle a few weeks ago and paid for it in cash, Not bad considering the fact that I lost my home and 90% of my belongings in 2006 to a flood and had to start over. I have one more mortgage payment due next month and then I am debt free.


What about your mountain hunting exploits? Snork...
Originally Posted by ribka
Being a disabled combat vet I have no idea how much you suffered lol

I wish I only suffered an achilles tendon issue

Id still turn you in for poaching


Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by ribka
I knew to not to get married and start a family until my life and career and saving were established. No one is to blame except for your poor life decisions. Of course now I have to pay for peoples' lack of intelligence with my taxes. Keep on poaching you poor starving soul.


I wish I only had achilles tendon problems. Thats a minor health problem compared who Ive went through and others. My neighbor has had MS for 10 years, wheelchair bound now for past 4 years, college Econ professor at local university. Cant use his right side of body now. His wife drives him to work every day. He's an immigrant who came from a communist country and understands what poor and starving is. I still take him out every elk season in his wheelchair. He would never poach.

No sympathy for you and your poaching. Gonna guess you didn't study too hard in HS. That seems to be a recurring theme with poachers too.


Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by 5sdad
I would respectfully suggest that your response indicates that you actually do.
Nope I don't give a sht what anybody here thinks of me. I do getr pissed at folks who give their sanctimoious opinions about something they don't know a goddam thing about. Most of these fugger have never really had it hard or been hungry with no food in the house and no money to buy any.


Too lazyy to move to find work and apparently too frightened to join the military to improve your lot in life. Going to set up a go fund me for your poor poor soul. Hope you don't starve to death before I can raise the funds lol
Hard to move when you don't even have enogh money to but groceries don't you think ass hole ? And joining the army wasn't high on my list of things to do at the time with two small children. I couldn't join anyway as I'd already tried a couple years prior and was to;d I could not because of an injury to my achilles tendon which has me listed to this day as partially and permanently disabled.
You are one dumb, judgemental son of a bitch ! My achilles tendon was nearly cut in half on the job. I could have stayed on ss disabilty for my entire adult life and did not. In fact against my doctors advice I went back to work less than a year later and had to sign a waiver staing I knew the risks and was willing to do so against the advice of an orthopedic specialist to do so. That was almost 40 years ago and I've been working ever since, despite the fact that I now have several more health issues that would easily qualify me for disability, so stick it in your ass you cock sucker.

You want my kidney disease too ? How about my degenerative bone disease ? I've already had cartilege replacent in my left knee and am overdue on the right. You ain't the only one who goes to work every day with issues dummy.
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I lived on cans of expired tuna and ramen noodles in college and worked 30 hours a week carrying a full load.


Were you raising a family also buying school cloths/meals/shoes etc...

You are putting everyone in one basket saying that all miners/loggers etc do nothing but buy expensive toys and that is not true..Some do,yes..But not all..We all make choices and sometimes it works out great and other times,not so much...You sound military..lol..Not a bad thing mostly..I grew up a military brat and served my timebut the mentality of the upper ranks,leaves alot to be desired sometimes..Again,not all of them are jerks with stripes or brass...
Ol' Blackie is always a breath of fresh air isn't he?
Her's a pic of my leg after my 4th hip replacement 4 years ago.. My incompetent PT dislocated it during therapy. The PT said she dint dislocate it and I was fine. You can't imagine the pain. My friend drove me t to emergency room and was told my hip was not dislocated and sent me home. A day later the hospital called and said they plugged up and my hip was dislocated and they put back in. Once it dislocates once youre screwed and it come out easily. Two weeks after this happened I was at archery elk camp on crutches. . I hit PT hard but had so much tendon and muscle damage it dislocated 4 more times. Then a 5th hip replacement with special cup. Lost partial use of right leg. Still trying to get back strength by hiking and riding bike as much as I can.

I still won't poach though.

Take a look greg


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pic of me and local task force we seized an anti air craft gun ( fully functional) from a Mexican drug cartel who were going to use it to take out rivals and police. They were almost able to obtain rounds for it believe it or not.

8 days after my 5th hip replacement.

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still won't poach
Telling how some dipshyts get all bent out of shape over something that happened back in the 1980's. I never even said what I shot to eat back then. Mostly small game, birds and woodchucks. Many a time supper was woodchuck or rabbit and dandelion greens. There is still poaching that goes on around here every year though I haven't needed to myself since way back then. It doesn't bother me and I wouldn't report it unless it was obvious it was somebody out to take big bucks. That's the only thing that really concerns most of you boobs cuz you're afraid somebody might kill your next wall hanger. I don't worry about it. There's always been deer left out in these woods come deer season and I've always been able to fill my tags.
Originally Posted by ribka
Her's a pic of my leg after my 4th hip replacement 4 years ago.. My incompetent PT dislocated it during therapy. The PT said she dint dislocate it and I was fine. You can't imagine the pain. My friend drove me t to emergency room and was told my hip was not dislocated and sent me home. A day later the hospital called and said they plugged up and my hip was dislocated and they put back in. Once it dislocates once youre screwed and it come out easily. Two weeks after this happened I was at archery elk camp on crutches. . I hit PT hard but had so much tendon and muscle damage it dislocated 4 more times. Then a 5th hip replacement with special cup. Lost partial use of right leg. Still trying to get back strength by hiking and riding bike as much as I can.

I still won't poach though.

Take a look greg


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Looks about like mine before I had my knee surgery. It was so swollen I had to wear sweats because my knee wouldn't fit in my jeans. They drained over a quart of fluid out of it before the surgery.
You were the mountain hunting expert I thought only to let us all know you have been disabled for decades. Pardon my confusion.

You can't make this stuff up.
Many here are sure they are worse off or better than the other guy. As far as buying what you need when/ if things went to hell, it won't happen. There would be nothing to buy. No gas to travel, no power at the home, you could have money and get nothing. Is poaching the way to feed your family, probably not. Unless the critters are in your front yard, you would never reach them. If necessary the community would pull together, like the stories my folks told about the depression! This would work in most small communities, in the big cities it's always been dog eat dog! I would donate my time and gill net to the effort, even help drive game, and yes shoot. That would be for survival. To accept poaching because some dip chit, didn't take care of business his whole life is bs! Most of us worked hard all our lives, because some had a harder paper route than the others, or choose a more dangerous profession is just a personal problem. Symphony comes between [bleep] and syphilis in websters. Not a reason to think one is better than the next. Yes there are real dirtbags out there, but their already committing crimes against society! Light'n up!!!!
I poached today.My wife caught me and asked how many did I poach.I learned long ago to never lie to my wife,so I told her the truth.I poached four.

Four,she exclaimed,do you know how much cholesterol is in four eggs?
Originally Posted by GregW
You were the mountain hunting expert I thought only to let us all know you have been disabled for decades. Pardon my confusion.

You can't make this stuff up.

You sure are a dumbphuck ! Too stupid to see where I already said I didn't let it slow me down or keep me from going back to work less than a year after it happened. How the hell do you manage to live when it's obvious you have the IQ of a root vegetable ?
Originally Posted by GregW
You were the mountain hunting expert I thought only to let us all know you have been disabled for decades. Pardon my confusion.

You can't make this stuff up.



who said I was a mountain expert ? I used to do a lot of back country hunting since I was a kid into early 2000's before my surgeries. . Now I can get in maybe 2 miles and friends help me out. Is that something to be ashamed of?
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by GregW
You were the mountain hunting expert I thought only to let us all know you have been disabled for decades. Pardon my confusion.

You can't make this stuff up.



who said I was a mountain expert ? I used to do a lot of back country hunting since I was a kid into late 90's. Now I can get in maybe 2 miles and friends help me out. Is that something to be ashamed of?


Not you. Blackheart.
I won't poach either but if I absolutely had to,from un-forseen circumstances, to keep my family alive and well...I would not hesitate...

There are to many that have not been there done that..There are also to many military brass that has never been an E-1 through E-4 because they started out as an E-5..There are some awesome law enforcement out there but in the same breath,there are some real duds that break the law often and stick up for those that do also..

So while I am against poaching, I do see where it may be the lessor of two evils to feed the family in a time of crisis..
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by GregW
You were the mountain hunting expert I thought only to let us all know you have been disabled for decades. Pardon my confusion.

You can't make this stuff up.

You sure are a dumbphuck ! Too stupid to see where I already said I didn't let it slow me down or keep me from going back to work less than a year after it happened. How the hell do you manage to live when it's obvious you have the IQ of a root vegetable ?


Why mention it then?
Originally Posted by GregW
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by GregW
You were the mountain hunting expert I thought only to let us all know you have been disabled for decades. Pardon my confusion.

You can't make this stuff up.



who said I was a mountain expert ? I used to do a lot of back country hunting since I was a kid into late 90's. Now I can get in maybe 2 miles and friends help me out. Is that something to be ashamed of?


Not you. Blackheart.
And I answered your carrot brained ass.
Originally Posted by GregW
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by GregW
You were the mountain hunting expert I thought only to let us all know you have been disabled for decades. Pardon my confusion.

You can't make this stuff up.

You sure are a dumbphuck ! Too stupid to see where I already said I didn't let it slow me down or keep me from going back to work less than a year after it happened. How the hell do you manage to live when it's obvious you have the IQ of a root vegetable ?


Why mention it then?
You're the one who brought it back up to isinuate that I'm a liar. Just being your usual pissant self. Pathetic.
Poaching is fine . We poached a 550 lb Beef calf last week. It sure tastes good.
Life aint a walk in the rose garden. And you cant be a victim and complain all the time end give up. Pick yourself up and go back at it cause life can change quickly and frequently does, and it ends just as quickly then you're gone and forgotten.

You want perspective regarding being a helpless victim with no control of your destiny go into a vet's hospital and see the guys with missing limbs, face and fingers burned off in constant excruciating pain and worrying about the future of their marriages and families or a children's cancer ward in a hospital.

I feel blessed every day I wake in America despite this temporary virus
I am looking for what he said about poaching in these times,but he kinda nailed it way back when......LOL

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Originally Posted by ribka
Life aint a walk in the rose garden. And you cant be a victim and complain all the time end give up. Pick yourself up and go back at it cause life can change quickly and frequently does, and it ends just as quickly then you're gone and forgotten.

You want perspective regarding being a helpless victim with no control of your destiny go into a vet's hospital and see the guys with missing limbs, face and fingers burned off in constant excruciating pain and worrying about the future of their marriages and families or a children's cancer ward in a hospital.

I feel blessed every day I wake in America despite this temporary virus

Amen
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Ol' Blackie is always a breath of fresh air isn't he?

I guess some law breaking poachers never run out of excuses to steal wildlife from law abiding hunters.
Well, I got the schits once from swimming in a hot springs.


Checkmate.
Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Ol' Blackie is always a breath of fresh air isn't he?

I guess some law breaking poachers never run out of excuses to steal wildlife from law abiding hunters.
And yet JGRaider himself said if he and his family get hungry somethings gonna die. I guess as usual it just depends on WHO it is that gets hungry as to whether it's acceptable or not. And you, you sanctimonious ass hole, can go f.uck yourself !
When I was a kid, we lived in a logging camp, upriver from Pierce, Idaho. This was a pretty tough year in the timber industry. Prices were way down and sawyers who usually made upwards of 800 dollars a month (this was sixty years ago, understand) were earning less than 200. By the end of July, things were getting a little tight and the men decided the community should take a couple elk to supply the camp. This, they did. They took the two elk (a cow and a yearling calf) into a bunkhouse which was not in use to cut them up.
Now, the sheriff would come out now and then just to take a drive, I suspect (we were about 30 miles from Pierce), and he just happened to come out on this Saturday when the elk were being cut up. He noticed the activity at the bunkhouse and went in to see what was up. He took a minute for his eyes to adjust then walked back to where the guys were butchering. "You know", he said, "Times being what they are, it really makes sense to go together and buy a young beef and cut it up yourselves. Saves a lot of money".
With that, he apologized for having to rush off but he had some miles to drive and he left. Neither he nor any of the men mentioned the elk in subsequent visits. In another month, the season was open, prices were up, and the poaching was in the past. GD
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Ol' Blackie is always a breath of fresh air isn't he?

I guess some law breaking poachers never run out of excuses to steal wildlife from law abiding hunters.
And yet JGRaider himself said if he and his family get hungry somethings gonna die. I guess as usual it just depends on WHO it is that gets hungry as to whether it's acceptable or not. And you, you sanctimonious ass hole, can go f.uck yourself !

Right back at ya you f. hucking criminal.
Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Ol' Blackie is always a breath of fresh air isn't he?

I guess some law breaking poachers never run out of excuses to steal wildlife from law abiding hunters.
And yet JGRaider himself said if he and his family get hungry somethings gonna die. I guess as usual it just depends on WHO it is that gets hungry as to whether it's acceptable or not. And you, you sanctimonious ass hole, can go f.uck yourself !

Right back at ya you f. hucking criminal.
In the coming weeks and months you might want to watch who you call criminal. When the covid gets bad enough lots of folks are going to do things they wouldn't do under normal circumstances. Sanctimonious ass holes like you might even shoot something out of season rather than go hungry. Or you might still be stupid enough to call somebody who did a criminal and they might just rip your head off and shyt down your neck.
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Ol' Blackie is always a breath of fresh air isn't he?

I guess some law breaking poachers never run out of excuses to steal wildlife from law abiding hunters.
And yet JGRaider himself said if he and his family get hungry somethings gonna die. I guess as usual it just depends on WHO it is that gets hungry as to whether it's acceptable or not. And you, you sanctimonious ass hole, can go f.uck yourself !

Right back at ya you f. hucking criminal.
In the coming weeks and months you might want to watch who you call criminal. When the covid gets bad enough lots of folks are going to do things they wouldn't do under normal circumstances. Sanctimonious ass holes like you might even shoot something out of season rather than go hungry. Or you might still be stupid enough to call somebody who did a criminal and they might just rip your head off and shyt down your neck.


Oh boy, you are a very scary man. 🙄🙄
Originally Posted by mirage243
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Ol' Blackie is always a breath of fresh air isn't he?

I guess some law breaking poachers never run out of excuses to steal wildlife from law abiding hunters.
And yet JGRaider himself said if he and his family get hungry somethings gonna die. I guess as usual it just depends on WHO it is that gets hungry as to whether it's acceptable or not. And you, you sanctimonious ass hole, can go f.uck yourself !

Right back at ya you f. hucking criminal.
In the coming weeks and months you might want to watch who you call criminal. When the covid gets bad enough lots of folks are going to do things they wouldn't do under normal circumstances. Sanctimonious ass holes like you might even shoot something out of season rather than go hungry. Or you might still be stupid enough to call somebody who did a criminal and they might just rip your head off and shyt down your neck.


Oh boy, you are a very scary man. 🙄🙄
Just as an FYI to everybody my wife and I heard a shot from close by late last night. I believe somebody was out getting some meat already. This will become more common as people out of work run low on money or they just don't want to take the risk of going to the store. We did not call the warden.
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Just need a good recipe for coyote stew. No poaching necessary.
Our year-old miniature Dachshund stalked (by nose) a moose bedded down in the yard, but couldn't get the shot he wanted. Hard to see over 30 inches of powder snow when you are only 6 inches high, plowing your way from moose step to moose step.

Funny as hell, but i guess we are still safe from the warden.

He had to settle for surf and turf that night - legally taken salmon and caribou .
Probably about the same time this year as last, when the rabbits start topping out the plants in the garden.
Originally Posted by ribka

Wardens are known to go for low hanging fruit. I had a lot of deer and elk being poached by house and neighbors' live stock were being shot and left. I offered the game wardens to come stay at my house, put a robo deer on my property to catch the poachers. They said too busy. The poaching ring was caught about a year later during a search warrant for meth. Found over 50 deer and elk remains on their property a few big horn sheep skulls. A family on welfare of course with 3 adult boys ( meth heads) still living at home.

Ive been checked fly fishing by wardens to ensure my barbs were pinched on my size 14 ehc. They ticketed my buddy because his barbs were pinched enough. $125 fine. A 100 yards down the river a few families of Mexicans were bait fishing,( not legal) making a mess leaving trash, dirty diapers, empty beer cans everywhere, built a fire which was illegal. and I asked the wardens why they don't ticket and they said they didn't speak Spanish.






Apparently those wardens never saw Butch and Sundance?

Manos arriba!




Geno
When I get hungry!
Originally Posted by steve4102
Grocery Stores are running out of food especially meat.

The Hunters freezer may soon run out of last years bounty.

This schit may last all summer, so when will it be OK with the fire to start filling our freezers with out of season game?



It is OK now to poach and fill freezers with out-of-season game. Just be willing to spend some time in jail, pay a fine and, loose hunting privileges.
I'll do what I have to if it comes down to it, to feed my wife and I.
Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by steve4102
Grocery Stores are running out of food especially meat.

The Hunters freezer may soon run out of last years bounty.

This schit may last all summer, so when will it be OK with the fire to start filling our freezers with out of season game?



It is OK now to poach and fill freezers with out-of-season game. Just be willing to spend some time in jail, pay a fine and, loose hunting privileges.

They will take your gun and vehicle here if both used to poach.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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Is that for Blackie?
I dont wanna say.

I might get my head ripped off and someone might schit down my neck you know......
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Ol' Blackie is always a breath of fresh air isn't he?

I guess some law breaking poachers never run out of excuses to steal wildlife from law abiding hunters.
And yet JGRaider himself said if he and his family get hungry somethings gonna die. I guess as usual it just depends on WHO it is that gets hungry as to whether it's acceptable or not. And you, you sanctimonious ass hole, can go f.uck yourself !

Jay-sus! Smoke a doober or take a double shot ! 😳
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I dont wanna say.

I might get my head ripped off and someone might schit down my neck you know......

😂or grill you on your Skills and knowledge At being an employer!
Its a tough schitting place to hang out!
worse than bein' a white fella drinkin' behind the C store on the Rez!

Geno
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I dont wanna say.

I might get my head ripped off and someone might schit down my neck you know......

😂or grill you on your Skills and knowledge At being an employer!
That's just because he's full of shyt and folks can see it.
Oh shut up. You might wear out the tennis balls on your walker if you get too riled up.
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Ol' Blackie is always a breath of fresh air isn't he?

I guess some law breaking poachers never run out of excuses to steal wildlife from law abiding hunters.
And yet JGRaider himself said if he and his family get hungry somethings gonna die. I guess as usual it just depends on WHO it is that gets hungry as to whether it's acceptable or not. And you, you sanctimonious ass hole, can go f.uck yourself !

Jay-sus! Smoke a doober or take a double shot ! 😳
I don't smoke or drink alcohol.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Oh shut up. You might wear out the tennis balls on your walker if you get too riled up.
LOL....Advice straight from the fingertips of the laziest most overweight farmer alive.
Easy gramps.....dont want your kidneys to flare up....
I can see your arteries clogging up from inactivity from here.
Why dont you list some more of your health problems?
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Why dont you list some more of your health problems?

I already did. Your fat lazy ass will have a lot more than me in another 20 years. If you're still alive. On the plus side you're unlikely to get any injuries sitting in front of a computer screen 24/7.
Have some more fiber grandpa and try not to kill your boss. I wonder if he knows what kind of danger he is in........
I'm in better shape than you are by the looks of things. At least I'm nowhere near as overweight.
You got it killer.
This thread is hilarious!
Be careful....you might get hit with an empty jar of prunes.
It's just like the movie Grumpy Old Men when they go into the bait shop and bitch about who's got more ailments! grin
I'm not shooting deer in the summer...I've got a lake full of catfish if my freezers run dry.
Shingles......schmingles.
Oh I guess it was the pharmacy:

Looking forward to the new European mounts in a few months...

Guys Be Like, “Yeah this 170” buck was the hardest stalk I’ve ever done in March”....😂😎
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Looking forward to the new European mounts in a few months...

Guys Be Like, “Yeah this 170” buck was the hardest stalk I’ve ever done in March”....😂😎



"It was sooooooo muddy, dude!"
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Looking forward to the new European mounts in a few months...

Guys Be Like, “Yeah this 170” buck was the hardest stalk I’ve ever done in March”....😂😎
No antlers this time of year. People killing them now are doing it for food.
Originally Posted by Rooster7
It's just like the movie Grumpy Old Men when they go into the bait shop and bitch about who's got more ailments! grin
Grumpy Old Men is my all time favorite movie.
Originally Posted by ringworm
I'm not shooting deer in the summer...I've got a lake full of catfish if my freezers run dry.

Man cannot live by fish alone.

Geno
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by ringworm
I'm not shooting deer in the summer...I've got a lake full of catfish if my freezers run dry.

Man cannot live by fish alone.

Geno


You done it every friday for years probably.
Poaching is never acceptable, killing to eat and feed your loved ones is and the 2 are not mutually exclusive.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Have some more fiber grandpa and try not to kill your boss. I wonder if he knows what kind of danger he is in........


You there...........................Stop disparaging Old Folks.................

Don't forget..................WE built this country...........and before us it was "The Greatest Generation"...........


What have you Millenials given us? Hot Pockets, and World of Warcraft?

Just wait until YOU get old and the GenC (for Corona) turns on you and starts with the rude comments.

Geno

PS did YOU ever have a paper route and push a lawnmower around to get money for your family?
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by ringworm
I'm not shooting deer in the summer...I've got a lake full of catfish if my freezers run dry.

Man cannot live by fish alone.

Geno


You done it every friday for years probably.


Well, being the good Italian family we were...............we had pasta too.

Loads of tuna noodle casserole (hot dish for you Midwesterners). To the point I couldn't eat it once I got out of my folks house.

Now I kinda like it and it brings back fond memories.

Geno

PS, I still hate fuggin frozen fish sticks tho. Godawful things.
I’ve never known true hunger...Sure, popcorn and Ramen hunger from being young and broke, but not see my liver moving through my skin hunger.

I’m not judging anyone who needs to eat...

Fûcks that shoot up our game for bone and internet bragging rights - out of season....Sure, toss em away. 😎
We call it casserole Geno.

I think the cutoff might be western NoDak.


Generation C! I like that.

Did you see where Greta said she had the Covid?
Originally Posted by Beaver10
I’ve never known true hunger...Sure, popcorn and Ramen hunger from being young and broke, but not see my liver moving through my skin hunger.

I’m not judging anyone who needs to eat...

Fûcks that shoot up our game for bone and internet bragging rights. Sure, toss em away. 😎


Like you, I've been hungry to the point of losing a bit of weight.

Even then, every week or two there was a food bank to go too. And my advisor in college called me "the optimum forager". Them mussels off the rocks below the marine lab sure were tasty for a starving student. Berries in the woods and roadsides, chanterelles too.

But, if push came to shove and this slightly overweight American got down towards having to eat my leather accoutrements like the Corps of Discovery............then poaching is an option.

Besides............we own dogs! Skinny little whippets................wish we had a Lab or Newfie I guess.

Geno
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
We call it casserole Geno.

I think the cutoff might be western NoDak.


Generation C! I like that.

Did you see where Greta said she had the Covid?


Well scheidt............I feel sorry for the poor gal................as long as she isn't blaming it on us Boomers...............


ND it is, I wonder if that carries down thru towards NM and such. Probably a southern border at the KS/MO line.

Geno
Food Bank, Geno?

BTDT myself
My wife grew up in a large family on a farm, few cows, few pigs, few this, few that, lots of kids. She claims she was 16 before she knew you could gut a deer in the daylight. That was in the 1970's. My dads family was dirt poor and if you saw a deer you shot it. They didn't get many, but enough to survive. Back then there was a lot more small game, birds and waterfowl. You've heard the stories, go to the hardware store buy 5 .410 shells, and you'd better come home with 5 animals. The main game getter was a Savage over under, in .410 and .22. One of his favorite stories was when was pretty young (10-12) he happened to stumble upon a decent buck in the woods without the deer noticing him first. He lined up on it and then couldn't decide if he should shoot in with the .22 or .410 (he had a slug in the gun). By the time he made up his mind the deer was tired of standing there and ran off. He couldn't even tell anybody he saw a deer as they would be upset that he didn't even shoot.
Originally Posted by slumlord
Food Bank, Geno?

BTDT myself
Don't you still go ? I don't know if there were any food banks around here when I was young and poor or not. Never asked, nor did I ever ask for any gov't handouts of any kind. I know there are food banks around now but pretty sure they rely on donated food, which I doubt like hell thy're going to be getting much of right now.
Originally Posted by mnmarlin
My wife grew up in a large family on a farm, few cows, few pigs, few this, few that, lots of kids. She claims she was 16 before she knew you could gut a deer in the daylight. That was in the 1970's. My dads family was dirt poor and if you saw a deer you shot it. They didn't get many, but enough to survive. Back then there was a lot more small game, birds and waterfowl. You've heard the stories, go to the hardware store buy 5 .410 shells, and you'd better come home with 5 animals. The main game getter was a Savage over under, in .410 and .22. One of his favorite stories was when was pretty young (10-12) he happened to stumble upon a decent buck in the woods without the deer noticing him first. He lined up on it and then couldn't decide if he should shoot in with the .22 or .410 (he had a slug in the gun). By the time he made up his mind the deer was tired of standing there and ran off. He couldn't even tell anybody he saw a deer as they would be upset that he didn't even shoot.
I've known several families like that around here. Not as many now but lots back when I was young.
Wife said “Go make food”....Her way of telling me to leave her alone and go away.

Food being made...4 more before Beav can rest...😎

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Rooster tail!?
Oh God damn, I finally read the last 7 pages, I haven't laughed so hard in a long time!!! Haha 😂😂😂
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Wife said “Go make food”....Her way of telling me to leave her alone and go away.

Food being made...4 more before Beav can rest...😎

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I wish my wife was as mean as your wife, Beav! smile
Originally Posted by slumlord
Food Bank, Geno?

BTDT myself


hells yeah.

couple of big russet taters in the bottom of the bag, some canned green beans I gave to the neighbor lady, usually a bag of rice and some pasta of some sort. Every once in awhile some Govt Cheese!. Fresh veggies in season.

Was always good to find a box of mac and cheese too!

Never any Fruit Loops though.

Geno
Originally Posted by Rooster7
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Wife said “Go make food”....Her way of telling me to leave her alone and go away.

Food being made...4 more before Beav can rest...😎

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I wish my wife was as mean as your wife, Beav! smile


You’re lucky Rooster, mines a swinger, too. Both fists flying and soccer thighs kicking my ass out the door. Laffin 😂😎
Originally Posted by Certifiable
Rooster tail!?


Rooster tail #7. Kidding, but, yes. It’s a RT. 😎
2 Fish for the village 😎

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Trout season open there already?

Dang,

Jealous here.

Wonder how a Mepp's Black Fury would work?

Geno
I’m poaching Geno....Wouldn’t be right to be fishing legal and posting under this thread...Beav’s an outlaw!

Yes...It’s always open here for ponds. Streams, rivers for fresh run Cutts. Heck no. We have seasons for those tasty fish and a 2 a day limit. 😎
I use three Mepps spinners.


Black Fury, Red and White and Black and white.


If they wont bite on one of those three.....they were not interested in spinners.
Originally Posted by Beaver10
I’m poaching Geno....Wouldn’t be right to be fishing legal and posting under this thread...Beav’s an outlaw!

Yes...It’s always open here for ponds. Streams, rivers for fresh run Cutts. Heck no. We have seasons for those tasty fish and a 2 a day limit. 😎


I think we have some similar reg about lakes and such, but they're still frozen some on the edges and the streams open up next month.

Cutts are fun to catch, for sure.

Geno

PS, if you're poaching..........why stop at 4?
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I use three Mepps spinners.


Black Fury, Red and White and Black and white.


If they wont bite on one of those three.....they were not interested in spinners.


Time to try a kastmaster or crocodile spoon then........

when those fail....................


use some freakin' worms!

Geno
It’s a 6 to 6 bite here....6AM until 7AM and 6PM to dark they’re hitting most anything. In between, your throwing a lot to pick up a few.

😎
Good ole Red and White DareDevil!




Some of the best for rainbows and kamaloops..........http://www.jakeslures.com/lures/



http://www.jakeslures.com/lures/


Hmmmm......cant get the link to post.



Check out Jakes Lures.
Trot line them mofo,s Beaver10
Big ole night crawlers on treble hooks suspended about a foot off the bottom.
That pole stuff looks like work.


Lol!!!
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I use three Mepps spinners.


Black Fury, Red and White and Black and white.


If they wont bite on one of those three.....they were not interested in spinners.


Time to try a kastmaster or crocodile spoon then........

when those fail....................


use some freakin' worms!

Geno


G,
Kastmaster hooked up 4 nice 13” last night.

Now, they aren’t touching it or worms. The White RT saw a little success as you saw....Back to a worm. I need to sit for a spell. 😎
Originally Posted by renegade50
Trot line them mofo,s Beaver10
Big ole night crawlers on treble hooks suspended about a foot off the bottom.
That pole stuff looks like work.


Lol!!!


Indeed....I need a beer 🍺😎
The source for fin food.....😎

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Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I use three Mepps spinners.


Black Fury, Red and White and Black and white.


If they wont bite on one of those three.....they were not interested in spinners.


Time to try a kastmaster or crocodile spoon then........

when those fail....................


use some freakin' worms!

Geno


G,
Kastmaster hooked up 4 nice 13” last night.

Now, they aren’t touching it or worms. The White RT saw a little success as you saw....Back to a worm. I need to sit for a spell. 😎


Try some Velveeta. Corn is probably illegal there now too?

Another trick was a size 16 gold treble hook, a Pautzke's Balls O Fire egg on each point, and a mini marshmallow slid down the line to cover the top of the hook and keep it off the bottom............almost always worked.

Geno
Originally Posted by Beaver10
The source for fin food.....😎

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If I was smart I'd check to see if that pic has a geotag on it!

Come and swoop on all your fish one night.

Renegade will help me with the trotlines!

Geno
Trout magnets are killer.
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I use three Mepps spinners.


Black Fury, Red and White and Black and white.


If they wont bite on one of those three.....they were not interested in spinners.


Time to try a kastmaster or crocodile spoon then........

when those fail....................


use some freakin' worms!

Geno


G,
Kastmaster hooked up 4 nice 13” last night.

Now, they aren’t touching it or worms. The White RT saw a little success as you saw....Back to a worm. I need to sit for a spell. 😎

Hook tied to line
Worm
No swivel
No sinker

Drift down from upstream into pools or behind rock eddies


How brookies in maine had ta have schitt presented to em after they got educated and conditioned to everything else.
EZ there hombre,

Hitting a man’s honey hole is fighting words...Well, if Ren’s coming with you it’s okay cuz he’s a mean mofo that has weapons of destruction he spins together in his basement - all black ops and top secret shît.

Come on over...Pull up a cooler G

😎
Originally Posted by Beaver10
The source for fin food.....😎

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Any inlet and outlet in the pond?

Water looks nice and clear.
Fish might be smart to people on the bank also.
Renny,

Yep, straight to the ocean bay. Limited run of Cutts make it up into the pond. About 1/4 mile fish swim is all.

Good eyes on that 😎
Same here. Small garden worm hooked once, no swivel, no sinker, drift under overhanging banks/roots. Can't do it now here or you're a poacher and risk campfire scorn. Good thing I still have a freezer full of venison or I might starve. JC ain't gotta worry. Could live 6 months from fat reserves.
I’ve fished this pond for 48 years...Some of Pops ashes are in her.

Aside from the mountains to my East. This is one of the only places I find some feeling of peace.

It’s been a great little pond for giving a man or kid a good time with a bobber or spinner.

😎
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Same here. Small garden worm hooked once, no swivel, no sinker, drift under overhanging banks/roots. Can't do it now here or you're a poacher and risk campfire scorn. Good thing I still have a freezer full of venison or I might starve. JC ain't gotta worry. Could live 6 months from fat reserves.



I am sure you could just beat up the Food service guys and take their stuff.


Right killer?
If I ever make it up that way again I'd love to see your mini refuge.

Nice place for Dad!

Geno
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Geno, can you find these on the shelves?



Nice pond Beaver. We had a nice pond like that too. Several dry years and then a hard winder took care of that.


We basically lived down there, Grandpa and I.
I used ta hate latching into 5 6 7 ft alantic eels in the penobscot river.

Hated them muthaphugga,s.

Had one bite the bottom of my foot when I was 12 swimming 1 day


My dumb azz standing on an engine block out by the boat bouy in pushaw lake.
Coksucka was inside it.
Fugga,s got some type of anticoagulant in their pieholes.
Had ta go to eastern maine med center get the bite cauterized and got 2 pints of blood .
Cauterize was not fun....

All my friends cut their lines if they hooked an eel.
I got a fancy belt hatchet just for them fugging things.
Never let one go after I got bit from one of those pricks
Chop them bytches toss the parts in the fire.
All my buds laffin their azz,s off while Im chopping the things up.
We was stoned and drunk out weekend camping all the time anyways.
Eels didnt get a pass with me.

Some of them fugga,s get big .
Like calf width on a man 6 ft or better long
Stupid little bowtie fins on their heads...


Hate them fugging things.

Their used to be eel wiers in rivers to catch em en masse
Ship em to boston, new york and other schitholes.
Skins for attire wear and supposedly the Puerto Ricans eat em.

Round #2

😎
Originally Posted by Valsdad
If I ever make it up that way again I'd love to see your mini refuge.

Nice place for Dad!

Geno


G,

We got a couple houses in this neighborhood to let you and your wife rest and enjoy the area...Happy to put a fishing pole and beverage in your paws anytime.

😎
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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Geno, can you find these on the shelves?



Nice pond Beaver. We had a nice pond like that too. Several dry years and then a hard winder took care of that.


We basically lived down there, Grandpa and I.




Big Jim,
You’ll never forget those years, at least I haven’t, obviously 🙄😎
Ren,

Beaver’s don’t do eels, ever bro! That’s for hardcore rednecks that enjoy fisting big blue catfish.

Give me a pole, hook and bait...Not my Damn Arm! 😎
Teach them eels a lesson.


Eat em.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Same here. Small garden worm hooked once, no swivel, no sinker, drift under overhanging banks/roots. Can't do it now here or you're a poacher and risk campfire scorn. Good thing I still have a freezer full of venison or I might starve. JC ain't gotta worry. Could live 6 months from fat reserves.



I am sure you could just beat up the Food service guys and take their stuff.


Right killer?
I'm sure you could too if'n you weren't so fat. Tough to move fast carryin all that extra lard.
Just be careful after your dialysis appointment.

Do you tell your opponents all your infirmaries before you kill them?
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Just be careful after your dialysis appointment.

Do you tell your opponents all your infirmaries before you kill them?



I'm still a long ways from dialysis dummy. How many cases of moon pies per day does it take to maintain that Michelin Man figure ?
Blackheart is still fighting with everybody, weird.
I guess because he cant kill his boss.........and keep getting his paycheck. He would have killed him years ago.....but his whole family lives with him in his trailer. They cant go anywhere.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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Geno, can you find these on the shelves?



Nice pond Beaver. We had a nice pond like that too. Several dry years and then a hard winder took care of that.


We basically lived down there, Grandpa and I.





Not sure about the shelves here Jim.


But thanks to some guy in MT, it appears I can find them on my 'puter.

I may have to try a couple.

Just like firearms, one can never have enough lures.

Like Beav's story about them not eating certain things today that the did yesterday, I've got too many stories of going through 10-15 lures before I find the right one.

Thanks for the link.

G
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by Valsdad
If I ever make it up that way again I'd love to see your mini refuge.

Nice place for Dad!

Geno


G,

We got a couple houses in this neighborhood to let you and your wife rest and enjoy the area...Happy to put a fishing pole and beverage in your paws anytime.

😎


Muchas gassy asses Beav.

If the self quarantine is ever lifted I'll be sure and have my wife keep her eye open for dog events in your area. Give her something to do while I fish!

Or maybe I put in for an OR elk tag some fall and skip AZ?

I'm RETIRED and can do what I want now.................as long as I clear it with the Boss.

Geno
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Teach them eels a lesson.


Eat em.


fuggin A!

B,C and D too.

I loves me some unagi.

We'll invite Kamo_Gari too.

Geno
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Ren,

Beaver’s don’t do eels, ever bro! That’s for hardcore rednecks that enjoy fisting big blue catfish.

Give me a pole, hook and bait...Not my Damn Arm! 😎


Then eels that tried to eat ol' renegade are a bit different than the "eels" that come up your rivers and creeks Beaver. Maybe you know that, but a lot of folks think and "eel" is just an "eel".

Now, if you're ever fishing the coast and hook into a wolf eel, I hear they are tasty too. Just check first, they may be listed now and off limits..................




until it's poaching time.


Geno
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I guess because he cant kill his boss.........and keep getting his paycheck. He would have killed him years ago.....but his whole family lives with him in his trailer. They cant go anywhere.
Nobody ever said I wanted to kill anybody, leastwise my boss but putting words in other peoples mouths is all you've got ain't it fat boy ? It's just me and my wife and the dogs here. And unlike you, we both work full time year round. Laziness comes easily to you obviously and the fruit won't fall far from the tree.
What about seals and sea lions and such Geno?



You could drive your Rascal right up to one of them and club it.
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I guess because he cant kill his boss.........and keep getting his paycheck. He would have killed him years ago.....but his whole family lives with him in his trailer. They cant go anywhere.
Nobody ever said I wanted to kill anybody, leastwise my boss but putting words in other peoples mouths is all you've got ain't it fat boy ? It's just me and my wife and the dogs here. And unlike you, we both work full time year round. Laziness comes easily to you obviously and the fruit won't fall far from the tree.



Are ya working right now killer?
Love me some trout fish in mark.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I guess because he cant kill his boss.........and keep getting his paycheck. He would have killed him years ago.....but his whole family lives with him in his trailer. They cant go anywhere.
Nobody ever said I wanted to kill anybody, leastwise my boss but putting words in other peoples mouths is all you've got ain't it fat boy ? It's just me and my wife and the dogs here. And unlike you, we both work full time year round. Laziness comes easily to you obviously and the fruit won't fall far from the tree.



Are ya working right now killer?
The whole State is on lock down fat boy. Was working every day up till then, which is obviously more than you can say.
Big jim, what kinda spinner is that? Looks panther Martin-ish
Btw ate eel 1 time, that was enough!! Haha
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Teach them eels a lesson.


Eat em.

sick
Chop em up
Kill em

Throw the parts in the fire
Let em burn and suffer for a looooong time.

Fling the burnt fugga,s back the river the next day
Big ole northern snapping turtles gotta eat too.
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Ren,

Beaver’s don’t do eels, ever bro! That’s for hardcore rednecks that enjoy fisting big blue catfish.

Give me a pole, hook and bait...Not my Damn Arm! 😎


Then eels that tried to eat ol' renegade are a bit different than the "eels" that come up your rivers and creeks Beaver. Maybe you know that, but a lot of folks think and "eel" is just an "eel".

Now, if you're ever fishing the coast and hook into a wolf eel, I hear they are tasty too. Just check first, they may be listed now and off limits..................




until it's poaching time.


Geno

Alantic eels are a mofo.
4 yr travel cycle young and mature ones go down rivers hit the gulf stream to europe then to the carribean back up gulf stream to new england and maritime canada rivers to spawn
Repeat


Coksukka,s.....

Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I guess because he cant kill his boss.........and keep getting his paycheck. He would have killed him years ago.....but his whole family lives with him in his trailer. They cant go anywhere.
Nobody ever said I wanted to kill anybody, leastwise my boss but putting words in other peoples mouths is all you've got ain't it fat boy ? It's just me and my wife and the dogs here. And unlike you, we both work full time year round. Laziness comes easily to you obviously and the fruit won't fall far from the tree.



Are ya working right now killer?
The whole State is on lock down fat boy. Was working every day up till then, which is obviously more than you can say.



Too bad there gramps.

Maybe WalMart needs a mop boy or something.
They eat alright Jud. Wife loves them. Hence, I’m still here trying to fill a limit...3 more! Come-on fish, bite Gawt dammit! 😬😎
Originally Posted by Judman
Big jim, what kinda spinner is that? Looks panther Martin-ish



Called a Jake"s Spin A Lure.


Sometimes thats all they will bite.
Ok I got some jakes spin a lures, they're like a spoon. Don't work for shiit for me. 😂😂😂
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I guess because he cant kill his boss.........and keep getting his paycheck. He would have killed him years ago.....but his whole family lives with him in his trailer. They cant go anywhere.
Nobody ever said I wanted to kill anybody, leastwise my boss but putting words in other peoples mouths is all you've got ain't it fat boy ? It's just me and my wife and the dogs here. And unlike you, we both work full time year round. Laziness comes easily to you obviously and the fruit won't fall far from the tree.



Are ya working right now killer?
The whole State is on lock down fat boy. Was working every day up till then, which is obviously more than you can say.



Too bad there gramps.

Maybe WalMart needs a mop boy or something.
Maybe you should go check with Wal-Mart seein as how you've always got lots of free time ?
Ordering...

Jake’s Spin A Lure

Feedback to follow.
Like these here, bought $200 worth of em before I went to Idaho last year, didn’t catch shiit!!! 😂😂

Caught a bunch on panther Martin and rooster tails though
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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
What about seals and sea lions and such Geno?



You could drive your Rascal right up to one of them and club it.

Gotta get me some ice tires first.

Don't want the scooter goin' off the edge of a floe.

Geno

PS, never tried them. Have friends and coworkers that have. I'd likely pass.........................until it was time to go poaching, that is.
It looks like Jim’s is a Stream-a-lure.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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Geno, can you find these on the shelves?



Nice pond Beaver. We had a nice pond like that too. Several dry years and then a hard winder took care of that.


We basically lived down there, Grandpa and I.




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Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Ren,

Beaver’s don’t do eels, ever bro! That’s for hardcore rednecks that enjoy fisting big blue catfish.

Give me a pole, hook and bait...Not my Damn Arm! 😎


Then eels that tried to eat ol' renegade are a bit different than the "eels" that come up your rivers and creeks Beaver. Maybe you know that, but a lot of folks think and "eel" is just an "eel".

Now, if you're ever fishing the coast and hook into a wolf eel, I hear they are tasty too. Just check first, they may be listed now and off limits..................




until it's poaching time.


Geno

Alantic eels are a mofo.
4 yr travel cycle young and mature ones go down rivers hit the gulf stream to europe then to the carribean back up gulf stream to new england and maritime canada rivers to spawn
Repeat


Coksukka,s.....




Just a bit turned around there. Atlantic eels swim upriver as elvers (little eels), grow, and go downriver to the ocean to spawn in the Sargasso Sea. Couple of different populations, one American, the other Euro eels.

Complete opposite of salmon.

Japanese eels the same way. Grow to adulthood in fresh water.


But you have one thing right for sure............big ones will bite folks in ponds, lakes, and rivers they live in.
Geno
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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Geno, can you find these on the shelves?



Nice pond Beaver. We had a nice pond like that too. Several dry years and then a hard winder took care of that.


We basically lived down there, Grandpa and I.




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Wahooo!!

Geno
Originally Posted by Judman
Btw ate eel 1 time, that was enough!! Haha

Judman,

being as how you're on the west coast..............did you eat eel or lamprey?

Two completely different critters with way different taste.

Way Way different.

Geno
I've got two big tackle boxes full of lures. Panther Martins, Mepp's and Rooster Tails in every size and color. None catches trout like trout magnets.
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Ren,

Beaver’s don’t do eels, ever bro! That’s for hardcore rednecks that enjoy fisting big blue catfish.

Give me a pole, hook and bait...Not my Damn Arm! 😎


Then eels that tried to eat ol' renegade are a bit different than the "eels" that come up your rivers and creeks Beaver. Maybe you know that, but a lot of folks think and "eel" is just an "eel".

Now, if you're ever fishing the coast and hook into a wolf eel, I hear they are tasty too. Just check first, they may be listed now and off limits..................




until it's poaching time.


Geno

Alantic eels are a mofo.
4 yr travel cycle young and mature ones go down rivers hit the gulf stream to europe then to the carribean back up gulf stream to new england and maritime canada rivers to spawn
Repeat


Coksukka,s.....




Just a bit turned around there. Atlantic eels swim upriver as elvers (little eels), grow, and go downriver to the ocean to spawn in the Sargasso Sea. Couple of different populations, one American, the other Euro eels.

Complete opposite of salmon.

Japanese eels the same way. Grow to adulthood in fresh water.


But you have one thing right for sure............big ones will bite folks in ponds, lakes, and rivers they live in.
Geno


Getting Atlantic eels on a hook in the surf in the dark can be a little knacky. Stripers love them.
Cool thread....Blacky and Conrad are swapping blows all day with no sign of either tiring...

I’m fishing a historical honey hole for a damn trout to prove I can still make food to my wife...

Geno, is looking for his fishing regs so he can make food, but admitting he’d poach my pond if he was closer.

Renny, well, it’s Ren and he’s slaying eels with a tomahawk or spear, idk.

Now Jud, Kingston and Styx want to buy the hottest lures available.

Times are dark folks...LAFFIN 😎
Originally Posted by Blackheart
I've got two big tackle boxes full of lures. Panther Martins, Mepp's and Rooster Tails in every size and color. None catches trout like trout magnets.


Post a pic, never seen\heard of one.
Kingston’s fishing pole is 1000 miles away. frown frown frown
[quote=Beaver10]Cool thread....Blacky and Conrad are swapping blows all day with no sign of either tiring...

I’m fishing a historical honey hole for a damn trout to prove I can still make food to my wife...

Geno, is looking for his fishing regs so he can make food, but admitting he’d poach my pond if he was closer.

Renny, well, it’s Ren and he’s slaying eels with a tomahawk or spear, idk.

Now Jud, Kingston and Styx want to buy the hottest lures available.

Times are dark folks...LAFFIN 😎[/quote

Has anyone brought up the ghost of flave yet?

Geno

PS, I'm a boomer on the edge of dementia, so someone remind me if I already did.
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Judman
Btw ate eel 1 time, that was enough!! Haha

Judman,

being as how you're on the west coast..............did you eat eel or lamprey?

Two completely different critters with way different taste.

Way Way different.

Geno


Geno it was at a sushi bar in florida, probably the best sushi we've had, but damn that eel, we didn't care for it.
Originally Posted by kingston
Kingston’s fishing pole is 1000 miles away. frown frown frown


Aren't fishin' pole stores "essential" where you are?

Geno
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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Geno, can you find these on the shelves?



Nice pond Beaver. We had a nice pond like that too. Several dry years and then a hard winder took care of that.


We basically lived down there, Grandpa and I.




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Wahooo!!

Geno


my buddys did good on the wahoo sunday 6 total.

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Originally Posted by kingston
Kingston’s fishing pole is 1000 miles away. frown frown frown


You do live too far away...😎
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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Geno, can you find these on the shelves?



Nice pond Beaver. We had a nice pond like that too. Several dry years and then a hard winder took care of that.


We basically lived down there, Grandpa and I.




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Wahooo!!

Geno


my buddys did good on the wahoo sunday 6 total.

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Roger,
We’re doing pond trout today, ok. Worms, Roostertails-trout. Sheesh!

Got any shark pictures? Love me some shark steaks 😎
Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Judman
Btw ate eel 1 time, that was enough!! Haha

Judman,

being as how you're on the west coast..............did you eat eel or lamprey?

Two completely different critters with way different taste.

Way Way different.

Geno


Geno it was at a sushi bar in florida, probably the best sushi we've had, but damn that eel, we didn't care for it.


Really, not FL, but sushi bars is where I developed a real taste for unagi (smoked eel).

I can hardly go and not order some.................even when I want to spend all my money on ahi, hamachi, toro, and others.

Geno
Originally Posted by steve4102
Grocery Stores are running out of food especially meat.

The Hunters freezer may soon run out of last years bounty.

This schit may last all summer, so when will it be OK with the fire to start filling our freezers with out of season game?

If poaching becomes OK, when does robbing corner stores make it to the same OK list?
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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Geno, can you find these on the shelves?



Nice pond Beaver. We had a nice pond like that too. Several dry years and then a hard winder took care of that.


We basically lived down there, Grandpa and I.




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Wahooo!!

Geno


my buddys did good on the wahoo sunday 6 total.

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Roger,
We’re doing pond trout today, ok. Worms, Roostertails-trout. Sheesh!

Got any shark pictures? Love me some shark steaks 😎
i dis but they were on laptop that was stolen, haven't done much shark fishing the last few years. black tip is damn goog eating, i have some scalloped hammerhead in the freezer caught a 6 footer offshore 4-5 months ago it was pretty good also.
i'm going to do some freshwater fishing this summer probably only fished freshwater 3-4 times in the last 30 something yrs. i'd like to catch a mess of bream.
Originally Posted by SuperCub
Originally Posted by steve4102
Grocery Stores are running out of food especially meat.

The Hunters freezer may soon run out of last years bounty.

This schit may last all summer, so when will it be OK with the fire to start filling our freezers with out of season game?

If poaching becomes OK, when does robbing corner stores make it to the same OK list?


Obviously you believe the game belongs to the state and not the people. The corner grocery stores sheit belongs to the man that owns the store.
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Ren,

Beaver’s don’t do eels, ever bro! That’s for hardcore rednecks that enjoy fisting big blue catfish.

Give me a pole, hook and bait...Not my Damn Arm! 😎


Then eels that tried to eat ol' renegade are a bit different than the "eels" that come up your rivers and creeks Beaver. Maybe you know that, but a lot of folks think and "eel" is just an "eel".

Now, if you're ever fishing the coast and hook into a wolf eel, I hear they are tasty too. Just check first, they may be listed now and off limits..................




until it's poaching time.


Geno

Alantic eels are a mofo.
4 yr travel cycle young and mature ones go down rivers hit the gulf stream to europe then to the carribean back up gulf stream to new england and maritime canada rivers to spawn
Repeat


Coksukka,s.....




Just a bit turned around there. Atlantic eels swim upriver as elvers (little eels), grow, and go downriver to the ocean to spawn in the Sargasso Sea. Couple of different populations, one American, the other Euro eels.

Complete opposite of salmon.

Japanese eels the same way. Grow to adulthood in fresh water.


But you have one thing right for sure............big ones will bite folks in ponds, lakes, and rivers they live in.
Geno

They call the little coksucka,s alwives.
NA,s fish em in new england.
Get all upset when limits( tonnage are put on em)
I say kill em all
I was mistsken in their cycle crap.

Still coksukka s.....
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Cool thread....Blacky and Conrad are swapping blows all day with no sign of either tiring...

I’m fishing a historical honey hole for a damn trout to prove I can still make food to my wife...

Geno, is looking for his fishing regs so he can make food, but admitting he’d poach my pond if he was closer.

Renny, well, it’s Ren and he’s slaying eels with a tomahawk or spear, idk.

Now Jud, Kingston and Styx want to buy the hottest lures available.

Times are dark folks...LAFFIN 😎

Used ta be a hatchet.
Cool one too
Leather sheath for it on my belt
Kept that fugga razor sharp
Shave hair off my arm with it.
Slice and dice a fugging eel up real good.

Lol!!!
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Ren,

Beaver’s don’t do eels, ever bro! That’s for hardcore rednecks that enjoy fisting big blue catfish.

Give me a pole, hook and bait...Not my Damn Arm! 😎


Then eels that tried to eat ol' renegade are a bit different than the "eels" that come up your rivers and creeks Beaver. Maybe you know that, but a lot of folks think and "eel" is just an "eel".

Now, if you're ever fishing the coast and hook into a wolf eel, I hear they are tasty too. Just check first, they may be listed now and off limits..................




until it's poaching time.


Geno

Alantic eels are a mofo.
4 yr travel cycle young and mature ones go down rivers hit the gulf stream to europe then to the carribean back up gulf stream to new england and maritime canada rivers to spawn
Repeat


Coksukka,s.....




Just a bit turned around there. Atlantic eels swim upriver as elvers (little eels), grow, and go downriver to the ocean to spawn in the Sargasso Sea. Couple of different populations, one American, the other Euro eels.

Complete opposite of salmon.

Japanese eels the same way. Grow to adulthood in fresh water.


But you have one thing right for sure............big ones will bite folks in ponds, lakes, and rivers they live in.
Geno

They call the little coksucka,s alwives.
NA,s fish em in new england.
Get all upset when limits( tonnage are put on em)
I say kill em all
I was mistsken in their cycle crap.

Still coksukka s.....

I know a guy up there, that made 30000-40000
a night catch those elvers and selling them to the Chinese, illegal as hell
I poached a button buck the other day......only cost a fender, drivers door, headlight bucket and a radiator. Damn deer!
Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by Blackheart
I've got two big tackle boxes full of lures. Panther Martins, Mepp's and Rooster Tails in every size and color. None catches trout like trout magnets.


Post a pic, never seen\heard of one.
Just google trout magnet.
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Ren,

Beaver’s don’t do eels, ever bro! That’s for hardcore rednecks that enjoy fisting big blue catfish.

Give me a pole, hook and bait...Not my Damn Arm! 😎


Then eels that tried to eat ol' renegade are a bit different than the "eels" that come up your rivers and creeks Beaver. Maybe you know that, but a lot of folks think and "eel" is just an "eel".

Now, if you're ever fishing the coast and hook into a wolf eel, I hear they are tasty too. Just check first, they may be listed now and off limits..................




until it's poaching time.


Geno

Alantic eels are a mofo.
4 yr travel cycle young and mature ones go down rivers hit the gulf stream to europe then to the carribean back up gulf stream to new england and maritime canada rivers to spawn
Repeat


Coksukka,s.....




Just a bit turned around there. Atlantic eels swim upriver as elvers (little eels), grow, and go downriver to the ocean to spawn in the Sargasso Sea. Couple of different populations, one American, the other Euro eels.

Complete opposite of salmon.

Japanese eels the same way. Grow to adulthood in fresh water.


But you have one thing right for sure............big ones will bite folks in ponds, lakes, and rivers they live in.
Geno

They call the little coksucka,s alwives.
NA,s fish em in new england.
Get all upset when limits( tonnage are put on em)
I say kill em all
I was mistsken in their cycle crap.

Still coksukka s.....

I know a guy up there, that made 30000-40000
a night catch those elvers and selling them to the Chinese, illegal as hell

He needed to catch more.

They need ta overfish them coksuka,s.

Used ta see pools full of the little bastards in kenduskeag stream

Fugging drop boulders on em
Kill or fugg up a dozen at a time
1000,s survive
Move up to next pool
Smoke a doobie
Repeat.

Coksuka,s.

I will never forget how it felt getting the bottom of my foot cauterized

Benzoine tincture and basically a medical soldering iron .
They had ta stop the bleeding before they put 2 pints in me.

Fugging little bowtie finned muthaphugga,s


LOL!!!
Looking back on it now.
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Ren,

Beaver’s don’t do eels, ever bro! That’s for hardcore rednecks that enjoy fisting big blue catfish.

Give me a pole, hook and bait...Not my Damn Arm! 😎


Then eels that tried to eat ol' renegade are a bit different than the "eels" that come up your rivers and creeks Beaver. Maybe you know that, but a lot of folks think and "eel" is just an "eel".

Now, if you're ever fishing the coast and hook into a wolf eel, I hear they are tasty too. Just check first, they may be listed now and off limits..................




until it's poaching time.


Geno

Alantic eels are a mofo.
4 yr travel cycle young and mature ones go down rivers hit the gulf stream to europe then to the carribean back up gulf stream to new england and maritime canada rivers to spawn
Repeat


Coksukka,s.....




Just a bit turned around there. Atlantic eels swim upriver as elvers (little eels), grow, and go downriver to the ocean to spawn in the Sargasso Sea. Couple of different populations, one American, the other Euro eels.

Complete opposite of salmon.

Japanese eels the same way. Grow to adulthood in fresh water.


But you have one thing right for sure............big ones will bite folks in ponds, lakes, and rivers they live in.
Geno

They call the little coksucka,s alwives.
NA,s fish em in new england.
Get all upset when limits( tonnage are put on em)
I say kill em all
I was mistsken in their cycle crap.

Still coksukka s.....

I know a guy up there, that made 30000-40000
a night catch those elvers and selling them to the Chinese, illegal as hell

He needed to catch more.

They need ta overfish them coksuka,s.

Used ta see pools full of the little bastards in kenduskeag stream

Fugging drop boulders on em
Kill or fugg up a dozen at a time
1000,s survive
Move up to next pool
Smoke a doobie
Repeat.

Coksuka,s.

I will never forget how it felt getting the bottom of my foot cauterized

Benzoine tincture and basically a medical soldering iron .
They had ta stop the bleeding before they put 2 pints in me.

Fugging little bowtie finned muthaphugga,s


LOL!!!
Looking back on it now.
think he said the chinese were paying 3-4 thousand a lb for them live, they were trying to start their own fishery for them over there.
Originally Posted by Slickdually
I poached a button buck the other day......only cost a fender, drivers door, headlight bucket and a radiator. Damn deer!

They are h ell on a vehicle 😏
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by Blackheart
I've got two big tackle boxes full of lures. Panther Martins, Mepp's and Rooster Tails in every size and color. None catches trout like trout magnets.


Post a pic, never seen\heard of one.
Just google trout magnet.


This ??
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Originally Posted by mirage243
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Ol' Blackie is always a breath of fresh air isn't he?

I guess some law breaking poachers never run out of excuses to steal wildlife from law abiding hunters.
And yet JGRaider himself said if he and his family get hungry somethings gonna die. I guess as usual it just depends on WHO it is that gets hungry as to whether it's acceptable or not. And you, you sanctimonious ass hole, can go f.uck yourself !

Right back at ya you f. hucking criminal.
In the coming weeks and months you might want to watch who you call criminal. When the covid gets bad enough lots of folks are going to do things they wouldn't do under normal circumstances. Sanctimonious ass holes like you might even shoot something out of season rather than go hungry. Or you might still be stupid enough to call somebody who did a criminal and they might just rip your head off and shyt down your neck.


Oh boy, you are a very scary man. 🙄🙄

Yeah. On the computer and typing on a keyboard he's a real fearsome beast.
Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by Blackheart
I've got two big tackle boxes full of lures. Panther Martins, Mepp's and Rooster Tails in every size and color. None catches trout like trout magnets.


Post a pic, never seen\heard of one.
Just google trout magnet.


This ??
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]rafael nadal height weight
Yes. I have lots of different colors. Usually buy them in the 9 packs. Get yourself some of the 1/64 oz in mealworm gold if nothing else. Lots of ways to fish them with or without a bobber. Put some action into them for best results. Several videos on youtube showing how. They are KILLER once you get the hang of them.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Judman
Big jim, what kinda spinner is that? Looks panther Martin-ish


Called a Jake"s Spin A Lure.
Sometimes thats all they will bite.



Originally Posted by Judman
Ok I got some jakes spin a lures, they're like a spoon. Don't work for shiit for me. 😂😂😂


grin grin

That's kinda like the Stripers & Hydrids here.

I catch the fool out of them on shad Zara Puppy (s). Other guys & Ive had 2 diff guys in the boat W/me, CAN'T get em to
hit the puppy for money.

Some guys can't Walk the Puppy ! laugh
Originally Posted by mirage243
Originally Posted by SuperCub
Originally Posted by steve4102
Grocery Stores are running out of food especially meat.

The Hunters freezer may soon run out of last years bounty.

This schit may last all summer, so when will it be OK with the fire to start filling our freezers with out of season game?

If poaching becomes OK, when does robbing corner stores make it to the same OK list?


Obviously you believe the game belongs to the state and not the people. The corner grocery stores sheit belongs to the man that owns the store.

I'm talking about breaking laws, not who owns stuff.

Without laws and adherence to those laws, public order breaks down and you then have a state of anarchy.
Originally Posted by SuperCub
Originally Posted by mirage243
Originally Posted by SuperCub
Originally Posted by steve4102
Grocery Stores are running out of food especially meat.

The Hunters freezer may soon run out of last years bounty.

This schit may last all summer, so when will it be OK with the fire to start filling our freezers with out of season game?

If poaching becomes OK, when does robbing corner stores make it to the same OK list?


Obviously you believe the game belongs to the state and not the people. The corner grocery stores sheit belongs to the man that owns the store.

I'm talking about breaking laws, not who owns stuff.

Without laws and adherence to those laws, public order breaks down and you then have a state of anarchy.


Kind of like Chicago or Baltimore, where white privilege, supported by laws and regulations has destroyed the lives of millions of black people! smile
I wonder if the truth be known, how many of the ones here that are eager to start poaching, gave their game away last year, because they did not want to clean and proccess it, because they were too damn lazy. I also heard a man say a long time ago that He threw everything but the hams and backstrap away. Did not mention the tenderloin, so I figured that He did not even know they existed. frown miles
Originally Posted by kingston
It looks like Jim’s is a Stream-a-lure.

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]



Yep. Thats the one.

I was wrong when I called it the spin a lure.




We call the Spin a Lure the money clip.........the spinner(Stream A Lure) is much more effective for me.




Sorry for the confusion.
You got some good trout fishin close Jimbo?
The “money clip” is supposed to be lights out, I’ll give them another chance, as I’ve got about 75 of em!!! 😂😂
Originally Posted by milespatton
I wonder if the truth be known, how many of the ones here that are eager to start poaching, gave their game away last year, because they did not want to clean and proccess it, because they were too damn lazy. I also heard a man say a long time ago that He threw everything but the hams and backstrap away. Did not mention the tenderloin, so I figured that He did not even know they existed. frown miles


Or the hunters who pay to have their game processed only to allow it to sit in the freezer several years before tossing it for freezer burn. I was guilty of feeding last year's left overs to the dog. Now that I've become more proficient at processing my own I find it's a struggle to make two deer last my wife and I the full year. This year I have three in the freezer but am already half way through the sausage and jerky. I need to stop giving jerky away. Yesterday I offered to give my neighbor some venison for his family, he said it wasn't needed.
Originally Posted by Judman
You got some good trout fishin close Jimbo?



Yes and no. Ha! 20 mins or so to the closest pond.....distance goes up from there.


The only flowing creeks are south in the mountains. Some of them have some decent brookies in them. Little guys mostly.


We mostly fish ponds and reservoirs.


Sometimes they are great! My friend has a nice little mountain pond plumb full of cutthroat. Beautiful scenery and good 10 inch cutts.


Most trout are caught in hot, unshaded farm and range ponds.


Our trout pond froze out years ago.


I am lucky because I like can eat a pond caught rainbow at any time of the year. Some people quit fishing in summer time. I still like them.







I am not sure if I have ever caught a fish with a money clip....or one of those Luhr Jensen Krocodile spoons either.



The Spinner (stream a lure) in either gold or silver has been good for me.
Copy that. You ever fish the Missouri?
Down south of ya?
No. Never did do any Missouri fishing.


Never did much river fishing......never knew how!



I recently purchased some river frontage with a couple good bends in it. Quarter mile or so?



Milk River. There is a well worn foot path to the water.......good fishing spot apparently.


We are gonna try learning there this summer.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
No. Never did do any Missouri fishing.


Never did much river fishing......never knew how!



12 pack of keystone
A few old spark plugs (for sinkers)
2//0 hooks
Zebco 33

Tub of livers
Sounds easy enough!
Originally Posted by SuperCub
Originally Posted by mirage243
Originally Posted by SuperCub
Originally Posted by steve4102
Grocery Stores are running out of food especially meat.

The Hunters freezer may soon run out of last years bounty.

This schit may last all summer, so when will it be OK with the fire to start filling our freezers with out of season game?

If poaching becomes OK, when does robbing corner stores make it to the same OK list?


Obviously you believe the game belongs to the state and not the people. The corner grocery stores sheit belongs to the man that owns the store.

I'm talking about breaking laws, not who owns stuff.

Without laws and adherence to those laws, public order breaks down and you then have a state of anarchy.
Get off your high horse. Everybody here breaks laws. EVERYBODY. Anybody who says they don't or never have is a goddam liar.
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