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Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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No offense meant, but some here could 'waste away' for months and still be overweight.
Broncos are officially the worst team in the nation this year.
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It was around here until I built on the land and chased a few of them down the road couple of times.
We pray our sights be straight
and our aim be true
We pray for no pain
to the game we pursue
We thank you Lord
for this land
We thank you for the sights
from our stands
We pray for safety, one and all
We pray we may return next fall
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Off for 2 weeks. Anyone every try coyote ?
We pray our sights be straight
and our aim be true
We pray for no pain
to the game we pursue
We thank you Lord
for this land
We thank you for the sights
from our stands
We pray for safety, one and all
We pray we may return next fall
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Couple of things.
The first thing that disappears after societal collapse is game.
Also,it strikes me that most of America would be OK with a 5-6 week fast. Comfortable, no. OK, yes.
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I've never considered someone feeding their family thru hunting out of season as a poacher. Not poaching.........subsistence ! TOO much panic. NOT there yet....IF ever.
jwall- *** 3100 guy***
A Flat Trajectory is Never a Handicap
Speed is Trajectory's Friend !!
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I've never considered someone feeding their family thru hunting out of season as a poacher. Do you consider someone who steals something that doesnt belong to them a thief? If you kill something out of season, you are a poacher. Period. If you want to justify being a poacher, fine. Thats an entirely different conversation. But lets not redefine things to make ourselves feel better about it. Thats a very DEmocrateIbProgressive thing to do. I'd poach to feed my family if I exhausted all other legal options. I'd be a poacher, and a dad doing the right thing.
Quit giving in inch by inch then looking back to lament the mile behind ya and wonder how to preserve those few feet left in front of ya. They'll never stop until they're stopped. That's a fact.
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If you need to kill a deer so your family can eat I don't have much to say about it. They problems will start when you trespass onto my property to do it.
And if it ever gets bad enough that cows and livestock start turning up butchered in the fields....well...ranchers have families too and they're not generally the type to just roll over.
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Growing up in the 70's I fished farm ponds in my county and in surrounding counties with my dad and a gentleman who would have been about the age of my grandfather. He grew up here and hunted and fished without regulations or licensing. He drove us around in a "68 iImpala with a shotgun in the trunk. I can recall him taking ducks and quail in the spring and fall when we encountered them. I never considered that poaching.
Sadly, there are almost no quail left here anymore. I have a place to hunt in SC that hosts flocks of geese and ducks.
I just wish I preferred duck and geese over quail.
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I may have to start eating some of the pigs I catch.
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Tomorrow, eat all the Democrats first, beware they will leave a bad taste in your mouth. GW That's what Monica Lewinsky says about Democrats
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
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Before you go poaching deer @ 15-30# worth of meat each, maybe hop on the cattleman/stockman Assoc. website for your AO, then call a few and see who's got a giant old bull or dry old cow (turkeys, chickens, pigs, etc) in need of introduction to a grinder. Get a couple of neighbors together and get it paid for and processed. If you've got deer in the yard I guess you're not expending much in terms of effort or resources to harvest them. If one lives in town and is thinking of driving out and hunting, then buying an animal from a producer is going to get you a LOT more for a LOT less.No need to go full-on hunter/gatherer society here folks. You'll find that a lot of people don't want to have a simple solution to a problem. My family were and still are rural livestock owners. During World War 2 meat was rationed for the proletariat. Our uncles owned a country store. They butchered a beef every week and furnished their small community with beef and in the winter with pork. The rationing didn't apply there. It was parceled out to everyone including a lot on credit. That sort of thing could be done right now in rural communities without a bunch of stealing and poaching.
Last edited by Hastings; 03/19/20. Reason: added answer
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
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REDUX - per Subsistence not poaching. Only to stave off hunger, when there's no other option.
Necessity: A legal defense that permits a person to lawfully act in what would otherwise be a criminal manner when an emergency situation, not of the person's own creation, compels him to act in a criminal manner to avoid greater harm from occurring. Thnx Hawkeye
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I could bag about a zillion big fat gray squirrels in my back yard with a suppressed .22 and save a ton of money on bird food!
Patrick
Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left....
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It sounds like a lot of guys on here are just looking for a reason to poach rather than find a different solution.
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It sounds like a lot of guys on here are just looking for a reason to poach rather than find a different solution. Gee, you figure? Geno
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
member of the cabal of dysfunctional squirrels?
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It sounds like a lot of guys on here are just looking for a reason to poach rather than find a different solution. like become vegetarians?
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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People that do live in a rural area (that do have at least 1 acre of land, and do not have a garden, chickens, or something..................would not know how to butcher a deer. This is about the dumbest and most inaccurate post I've ever seen on the fire.
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This early in our "crisis" it should not even be contemplated. poaching, like hoarding, is a crime against our society. GD
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This early in our "crisis" it should not even be contemplated. poaching, like hoarding, is a crime against our society. GD Hoarding, a crime? GTFOH
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