24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 11 of 32 1 2 9 10 11 12 13 31 32
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 32,130
Likes: 1
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 32,130
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by irfubar
This is a last ditch hail mary power play by the global new world order elites. They are losing and backed into a corner, and as we all know a cornered desperate animal is very dangerous.


There’s certainly an element of this in some of the messaging coming from the media and China, but this disease needs to be taken seriously, especially in the immediate present and future.


Originally Posted by 16penny
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty

Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 69,275
Likes: 12
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 69,275
Likes: 12
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by dale06
Originally Posted by BigDave39355
I don’t think it’s a hoax.

But blown out of proportion....

Why not all this back with the ZeroBama was battlin H1n1?


That’s where I’m at. Where were all of you when 30-60,000 Americans died of the flu the past two years.



^^^This^^^

Only a little over 200 Americans have died so far.
It’s the Flu, maybe a highly contagious one, but does not seem to be as deadly as the Fake News Media is making it out to be.


It’s not the flu and it’s a mistake to compare SARS-COV-2 to the flu.


Ok. Flu like virus. 😬


"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"

~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 25,930
Likes: 5
I
Campfire Ranger
Online Happy
Campfire Ranger
I
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 25,930
Likes: 5
Originally Posted by Kyhilljack
Originally Posted by colorado bob
Death count in Italy today was 627. I think yesterday was 375 & that was the highest to date. Give it a couple of weeks------we'll make those numbers look mall.

More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions,0.8% of the total deaths, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.

More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.
The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.

Does that make the fatalities irrelevant? Those lives lost too soon are of no consequence? It is wrong to strive to slow that same loss of life in America?


People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,411
O
Campfire Ranger
OP Offline
Campfire Ranger
O
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,411
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Kyhilljack
Originally Posted by colorado bob
Death count in Italy today was 627. I think yesterday was 375 & that was the highest to date. Give it a couple of weeks------we'll make those numbers look mall.

More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions,0.8% of the total deaths, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.

More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.
The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.

Does that make the fatalities irrelevant? Those lives lost too soon are of no consequence? It is wrong to strive to slow that same loss of life in America?



We have many, many at risk, health compromised people here in the USA and this is gonna slam them hard if the social distancing and isolation doesn’t get observed.


The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.

What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 25,930
Likes: 5
I
Campfire Ranger
Online Happy
Campfire Ranger
I
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 25,930
Likes: 5
Originally Posted by ckat
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter

And "the flu" does not hospitalize 20% of those diagnosed, nor kill 50% of those hospitalized. Nor does the number of those diagnosed with the flu double every four days.

If one does not consider that a signiticant difference, there is little hope.


Please enlighten us to the source of your “facts.” That would be a 10% death rate...

How about this? From https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

Italy
Coronavirus Cases:
47,021
Deaths:
4,032
Recovered:
5,129
Looks pretty darned close to 10% to me.


People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
IC B2

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,411
O
Campfire Ranger
OP Offline
Campfire Ranger
O
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,411
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by ckat
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter

And "the flu" does not hospitalize 20% of those diagnosed, nor kill 50% of those hospitalized. Nor does the number of those diagnosed with the flu double every four days.

If one does not consider that a signiticant difference, there is little hope.


Please enlighten us to the source of your “facts.” That would be a 10% death rate...

How about this? From https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

Italy
Coronavirus Cases:
47,021
Deaths:
4,032
Recovered:
5,129
Looks pretty darned close to 10% to me.



Haven’t heard much of anything about our southern neighbors in Mexico from the talking heads.


The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.

What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 95,720
Likes: 2
J
Campfire Oracle
Online Content
Campfire Oracle
J
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 95,720
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Kyhilljack
Originally Posted by colorado bob
Death count in Italy today was 627. I think yesterday was 375 & that was the highest to date. Give it a couple of weeks------we'll make those numbers look mall.

More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions,0.8% of the total deaths, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.

More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.
The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.

Does that make the fatalities irrelevant? Those lives lost too soon are of no consequence? It is wrong to strive to slow that same loss of life in America?


The younger folks have no regard for the old farts who gave them the richest country on earth and highest standard of living in the history of mankind and ask them to avoid the crowds or bars a couple of weeks and, well.... sheesh.


Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

I Dindo Nuffin
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 23,686
Likes: 1
J
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
J
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 23,686
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by ckat
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter

And "the flu" does not hospitalize 20% of those diagnosed, nor kill 50% of those hospitalized. Nor does the number of those diagnosed with the flu double every four days.

If one does not consider that a signiticant difference, there is little hope.


Please enlighten us to the source of your “facts.” That would be a 10% death rate...

How about this? From https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

Italy
Coronavirus Cases:
47,021
Deaths:
4,032
Recovered:
5,129
Looks pretty darned close to 10% to me.


Confirmed cases. With the shortage of test kits available the actual number infected would be much higher than confirmed cases they list. Therefore death rate would be much less than 10%.

Cable news makes money from one source. Advertisers.
Cost of advertising rises in correlation with the number of viewers. Sensationalism brings viewership up.
The media has every reason to blow this out of proportion.
Couple that with their undying hatred for Trump and desperation to unseat him in an election year and you have what we're seeing now. A dangerous situation being used to push an agenda. No doubt about it, measures need taken, but crashing the global economy seems a pretty extreme measures to save even a few hundred thousand lives



Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 32,130
Likes: 1
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 32,130
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by jackmountain


Confirmed cases. With the shortage of test kits available the actual number infected would be much higher than confirmed cases they list. Therefore death rate would be much less than 10%.

Cable news makes money from one source. Advertisers.
Cost of advertising rises in correlation with the number of viewers. Sensationalism brings viewership up.
The media has every reason to blow this out of proportion.
Couple that with their undying hatred for Trump and desperation to unseat him in an election year and you have what we're seeing now. A dangerous situation being used to push an agenda. No doubt about it, measures need taken, but crashing the global economy seems a pretty extreme measures to save even a few hundred thousand lives



Trump has been a media boon.


Originally Posted by 16penny
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 13,090
Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 13,090
Likes: 2
I wonder why People with AIDS weren't quarantined and sequestered when it was discovered to be incurable, fatal, and at that time was confined in a very careless and identified population. While I'm sure sneezing doesn't readily spread aids it was known to be contagious and readily transmissible. In 2018 there were about 38,000,000 infected people worldwide who are recruiting way over a million new cases a year. And this is a disease that kills without very expensive lifelong treatment. Treatment which only arrests symptoms and leaves the patient feeling good enough to get out without restriction and spread the joy. This corona thing I guess doesn't bring stigma on a protected group and is being used as a basis to destroy a world economy even though over 90 % will survive just fine and by the time it's over the human race will be immune and probably richer if we wouldn't up our national mortgage to mollify a bunch of scaredy cat people.


Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
IC B3

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 10,964
M
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
M
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 10,964
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Kyhilljack
Originally Posted by colorado bob
Death count in Italy today was 627. I think yesterday was 375 & that was the highest to date. Give it a couple of weeks------we'll make those numbers look mall.

More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions,0.8% of the total deaths, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.

More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.
The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.

Does that make the fatalities irrelevant? Those lives lost too soon are of no consequence? It is wrong to strive to slow that same loss of life in America?



One life lost to disease, illness, drugs, etc. is too many. However, the “criminality” of it all, is the response to this virus coupled with the Russian started “oil-war”. These two things together, have “tanked” the world economy, and conveniently just prior to the US presidential election! The “hypocrisy” of the media’s actions on this event , are very relevant when hundreds of thousands (worldwide) die annually to the flu, tuberculosis, and assorted other diseases and yet are barely mentioned in the press. memtb


You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel

“I’d like to be a good rifleman…..but, I prefer to be a good hunter”! memtb 2024
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,411
O
Campfire Ranger
OP Offline
Campfire Ranger
O
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,411
Originally Posted by memtb
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Kyhilljack
Originally Posted by colorado bob
Death count in Italy today was 627. I think yesterday was 375 & that was the highest to date. Give it a couple of weeks------we'll make those numbers look mall.

More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions,0.8% of the total deaths, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.

More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.
The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.

Does that make the fatalities irrelevant? Those lives lost too soon are of no consequence? It is wrong to strive to slow that same loss of life in America?



One life lost to disease, illness, drugs, etc. is too many. However, the “criminality” of it all, is the response to this virus coupled with the Russian started “oil-war”. These two things together, have “tanked” the world economy, and conveniently just prior to the US presidential election! The “hypocrisy” of the media’s actions on this event , are very relevant when hundreds of thousands (worldwide) die annually to the flu, tuberculosis, and assorted other diseases and yet are barely mentioned in the press. memtb


How would you have responded to the virus if you were in trump’s position? What actions would you have taken ?


The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.

What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 28,142
Likes: 2
A
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
A
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 28,142
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by Kyhilljack
Originally Posted by colorado bob
Death count in Italy today was 627. I think yesterday was 375 & that was the highest to date. Give it a couple of weeks------we'll make those numbers look mall.

More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions,0.8% of the total deaths, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.

More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.
The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.

They were already on the doorstep and the Corona virus gave them a good kick in the a ss .


[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,411
O
Campfire Ranger
OP Offline
Campfire Ranger
O
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,411
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Kyhilljack
Originally Posted by colorado bob
Death count in Italy today was 627. I think yesterday was 375 & that was the highest to date. Give it a couple of weeks------we'll make those numbers look mall.

More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions,0.8% of the total deaths, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.

More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.
The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.

They were already on the doorstep and the Corona virus gave them a good kick in the a ss .


Your point?

I guess their immune system failed them or it didn’t get the message that a virus was upon them.


The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.

What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 31,428
M
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
M
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 31,428
My wife is social distancing me! I am going to have to take matters into my own hands.... whistle


"I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!"
--- Kid Rock 2022


Holocaust Deniers, the ultimate perverted dipchits: Bristoe, TheRealHawkeye, stophel, Ghostinthemachine, anyone else?
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 28,142
Likes: 2
A
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
A
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 28,142
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Kyhilljack
Originally Posted by colorado bob
Death count in Italy today was 627. I think yesterday was 375 & that was the highest to date. Give it a couple of weeks------we'll make those numbers look mall.

More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions,0.8% of the total deaths, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.

More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.
The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.

They were already on the doorstep and the Corona virus gave them a good kick in the a ss .


Your point?

I guess their immune system failed them or it didn’t get the message that a virus was upon them.

Are you that dumb? Why should the Corona virus get all the blame if they were about to die in 2 months without getting it?


[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 45,203
Likes: 18
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Content
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 45,203
Likes: 18
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
My wife is social distancing me! I am going to have to take matters into my own hands.... whistle

eek

Not to worry,

it's like riding a bicycle.

Geno


The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)

member of the cabal of dysfunctional squirrels?
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 133
R
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
R
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 133
Originally Posted by BigDave39355
Does everyone that comes in contact get it?

I’m not the tinfoil type. But believe the media is making this 10x worse than what needs to be.


I’m in this camp, it’s not wide spread like they say and not worthy of such panicking, it’s not on every state but people are scared like it’s walking around on its own infecting people, too many movies I guess.

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 28,142
Likes: 2
A
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
A
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 28,142
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by Romulus
Originally Posted by BigDave39355
Does everyone that comes in contact get it?

I’m not the tinfoil type. But believe the media is making this 10x worse than what needs to be.


I’m in this camp, it’s not wide spread like they say and not worthy of such panicking, it’s not on every state but people are scared like it’s walking around on its own infecting people, too many movies I guess.

So it’s not like an STD?


[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 45,203
Likes: 18
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Content
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 45,203
Likes: 18
Originally Posted by Hastings
I wonder why People with AIDS weren't quarantined and sequestered when it was discovered to be incurable, fatal, and at that time was confined in a very careless and identified population. While I'm sure sneezing doesn't readily spread aids it was known to be contagious and readily transmissible. In 2018 there were about 38,000,000 infected people worldwide who are recruiting way over a million new cases a year. And this is a disease that kills without very expensive lifelong treatment. Treatment which only arrests symptoms and leaves the patient feeling good enough to get out without restriction and spread the joy. This corona thing I guess doesn't bring stigma on a protected group and is being used as a basis to destroy a world economy even though over 90 % will survive just fine and by the time it's over the human race will be immune and probably richer if we wouldn't up our national mortgage to mollify a bunch of scaredy cat people.


That holds true to some extent in our country, at the beginning of the AIDS epidemic.

Not so in other parts of the world where it was/is spread by everyday folks doing everyday things.

Geno


The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)

member of the cabal of dysfunctional squirrels?
Page 11 of 32 1 2 9 10 11 12 13 31 32

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

526 members (260madman, 1OntarioJim, 260Remguy, 264magnum, 1minute, 257 roberts, 60 invisible), 2,369 guests, and 1,166 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,192,426
Posts18,489,191
Members73,970
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.099s Queries: 55 (0.017s) Memory: 0.9391 MB (Peak: 1.0698 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-04 18:03:31 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS