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Had a rifle shipped to my FFL, today. I was number 12,370 in the background check que for just Colorado buyers. 4+ day wait on the background check. Sheesh.

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Don't know where I am in the que, but my LGS reports that as of this morning, wait times are now 4.5 days.

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My FFL got me done in about 45 minutes last night. He had no wait first thing yesterday morning.


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Good to hear you experienced only a minor delay. I guess I should fire my FFL.

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Originally Posted by shinbone
Good to hear you experienced only a minor delay. I guess I should fire my FFL.



But it is easier for a teenager to buy a Glock than get his hands on a computer or even a book. right.🤣



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Originally Posted by shinbone
Good to hear you experienced only a minor delay. I guess I should fire my FFL.


You would do better by firing your state government.

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Also interesting: how many people are going to skip paying use tax on guns bought online for 2020 taxes... there's no way states are going to be able to keep up with it all. Half of them can't under normal circumstances.

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Originally Posted by shinbone
Good to hear you experienced only a minor delay. I guess I should fire my FFL.

Depends on time of day I bet.


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Yet another reason to be glad I live where I do.

Sign the form and out the door.......


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Originally Posted by shinbone
Don't know where I am in the que, but my LGS reports that as of this morning, wait times are now 4.5 days.


Hey Shinbone what do you need another rifle for ?? I know you have a great Win 70 EW 264. ...

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Get a concealed carry permit and skip the check


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That's is a lot of happy firearm owners. Any idea how many background checks they process on a normal day?

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That is crazy... just bought a new .45 this past weekend ( a few days ago) and waited about 30 minutes... and the place was PACKED... hardly standing room... this was Tennessee...


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Originally Posted by Fotis
Get a concealed carry permit and skip the check


I wise that was true everywhere... I have a carry permit in TN and still have to go through the background check and pay $10 for the privilege...


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Originally Posted by shinbone
Good to hear you experienced only a minor delay. I guess I should fire my FFL.

Or move to Missouri.


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Originally Posted by Hesp
Hey Shinbone what do you need another rifle for ?? I know you have a great Win 70 EW 264. ...


Hesp - That was my first, thought, too. My M70 in .264WM sure covers a lot of bases. But, that new rifle was all shiny and purty, so I wasn't able to resist.



Originally Posted by fotis
Get a concealed carry permit and skip the check


I do have a CCW, but in Colorado you still have to do a background check each time you buy a firearm. Doesn't make any sense.

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Originally Posted by dye7barrel
That's is a lot of happy firearm owners. Any idea how many background checks they process on a normal day?


Not sure the number, but usually there is no wait. That's why 4+ day wait is so notable.

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Originally Posted by fotis
Get a concealed carry permit and skip the check


I do have a CCW, but in Colorado you still have to do a background check each time you buy a firearm. Doesn't make any sense.
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The way the loophole works is that if the requirements of getting a concealed carry permit satisfy the same investigatory requirements as an NICS check for a handgun...bearer of said permit doesn't need to submit to a background check. They already passed the background check to get the license.

List of states that ATF recognizes

Last updated: March 3, 2020

Note: Notwithstanding the dates set forth below, permits qualify as alternatives to the background check requirements of the Brady law for no more than 5 years from the date of issuance. The permit must be valid under state law in order to qualify as a Brady alternative.

https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/permanent-brady-permit-chart

State / Territory Qualifying Permits
Alabama None
Alaska Concealed weapons permits marked NICS-Exempt
American Samoa None
Arizona Concealed weapons permits qualify.
Arkansas Concealed weapons permits issued on or after April 1, 1999 qualify. *
California Entertainment Firearms Permit only
Colorado None
Connecticut None
Delaware None *
District of Columbia None *
Florida None *
Georgia Georgia firearms licenses qualify.
Guam None *
Hawaii Permits to acquire and licenses to carry qualify.
Idaho Concealed weapons permits qualify.
Illinois None
Indiana None
Iowa Permits to acquire and permits to carry concealed weapons qualify.
Kansas Concealed handgun licenses issued on or after July 1, 2010 qualify as alternatives to the background check.
Kentucky Concealed Deadly Weapons License (CDW) and Judicial Special Status CDW issued on or after July 12, 2006 qualify.
Louisiana Concealed handgun permits issued on or after March 9, 2015 qualify.
Maine None *
Maryland None *
Massachusetts None *
Michigan Licenses to Purchase a Pistol (LTP) are the only permits that qualify as a NICS alternative.
Minnesota None
Mississippi License to carry concealed pistol or revolver issued to individuals under Miss. Stat. Ann. § 45-9-101 qualify. (NOTE: security guard permits issued under Miss. Stat. Ann. §97-37-7 do not qualify).
Missouri None *
Montana Concealed weapons permits qualify.
Nebraska Concealed handgun permit qualifies as an alternative. Handgun purchase certificates qualify.
Nevada Concealed carry permit issued on or after July 1, 2011, qualify.
New Hampshire None
New Jersey None
New Mexico None
New York None
North Carolina Permits to purchase a handgun and concealed handgun permits qualify.
North Dakota Concealed weapons permits issued on or after December 1, 1999 qualify. *
Northern Mariana Islands None
Ohio Concealed weapons permits issued on or after March 23, 2015, qualifies as an alternative to the background check requirements.
Oklahoma None *
Oregon None *
Pennsylvania None
Puerto Rico None
Rhode Island None
South Carolina Concealed weapons permits qualify.
South Dakota
Gold Card Concealed Pistol Permits and Enhanced Permits to Carry a Concealed Pistol issued on or after January 1, 2017.
Tennessee None
Texas Concealed weapons permits qualify.
U.S. Virgin Islands None
Utah Concealed weapons permits qualify.
Vermont None
Virginia None
Washington None
West Virginia Concealed handgun license issued on or after June 4, 2014 qualify.
Wisconsin None
Wyoming Concealed weapons permits qualify.
* While certain permits issued in these states prior to November 30, 1998 were “grandfathered” as Brady alternatives, none of these grandfathered permits would still be valid under State law as of November 30, 2003.

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Don't know where I am in the que, but my LGS reports that as of this morning, wait times are now 4.5 days.


Hey Shinbone what do you need another rifle for ?? I know you have a great Win 70 EW 264. ...


Lol, I've been trying to buy a Model 70 Ultimate Shadow in .264 for a few days but they keep telling me the wait times are too long. Not too keen on being in a packed store to do teh paperwork anyway, so I am holding off. At least they set it aside for me.

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