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Lisinopril gave you a dry non-productive cough? Just curious and I know it can affect everyone different but I've been taking 20mg/day for over 10 years with no issues. That is a very common, very well known side effect of lisinopril. I took lisinopril for less than 2 weeks and had a really bad case of the coughs and it lingered for almost a month after I quit taking it. [/quote I also have a dry cough from the medication, it is one of the side effects.
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Almost all the of ones who have died have been in "long term care facilities" (that means places they weren't going to get out of alive.
Hospitals and doctors are busy with hypochondriacs that really wish they had this bug...but don't.
Don't you think the media would be stumbling over themselves to show people dying in the streets?
Where are the sick people? Unfortunately Lt, they are coming. Look at NYC as a valid depiction of the future. And New York is no where even close to the top of the bell curve yet. As Cuomo cries " What are we going to do with 400 ventilators? We need 30,000". You keep moving the goalposts. You posted that the death rate would be exponential. It isn't. You posted that those admitted to the hospital would increase exponentially. It didn't. You posted that the cold virus was more deadly than the flu. It isn't. Hospitalization rate is linear. Death rate is linear. Fatality rate below 1%. Everything you've posted has been wrong.
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Lisinopril gave you a dry non-productive cough? Just curious and I know it can affect everyone different but I've been taking 20mg/day for over 10 years with no issues.[/quote
That is a very common, very well known side effect of lisinopril. I took lisinopril for less than 2 weeks and had a really bad case of the coughs and it lingered for almost a month after I quit taking it.
I find it odd too, as I've been taking it for 6 yrs now, 20mg a day, no problemo. I take 40mg. Occasional cough but not bad.
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Almost all the of ones who have died have been in "long term care facilities" (that means places they weren't going to get out of alive.
Hospitals and doctors are busy with hypochondriacs that really wish they had this bug...but don't.
Don't you think the media would be stumbling over themselves to show people dying in the streets?
Where are the sick people? Unfortunately Lt, they are coming. Look at NYC as a valid depiction of the future. And New York is no where even close to the top of the bell curve yet. As Cuomo cries " What are we going to do with 400 ventilators? We need 30,000". You keep moving the goalposts. You posted that the death rate would be exponential. It isn't. You posted that those admitted to the hospital would increase exponentially. It didn't. You posted that the cold virus was more deadly than the flu. It isn't. Hospitalization rate is linear. Death rate is linear. Fatality rate below 1%. Everything you've posted has been wrong. Fuba Rski MD 1 Idaho Shooter 0
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You keep moving the goalposts.. Everything you've posted has been wrong. Somewhere along the way through his streams of constantly regurgitated pandemic predictions he hedged his bets by slipping in convenient clauses. .. He said it will peak in 3-4 months... then just the Next day or so.. . he changed it out to 8 months! How can one know so little about a novel virus, but make such bold sudden and radical changes to predictions?
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There are none so blind, as those that will not see. For those of you with an open mind, take two minutes to look at this page: Worldometer Coronavirus USA statsCurrent deaths in the USA - 695 Current recovered - 370 Cases without outcome - about 52,300. Just under 1200 of those are serious cases Take a look at all of the graphs. Total cases, total deaths, new cases per day, new deaths per day. All those graphs are on linear scales - but the values being graphed are not rising linearly.
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Almost all the of ones who have died have been in "long term care facilities" (that means places they weren't going to get out of alive.
Hospitals and doctors are busy with hypochondriacs that really wish they had this bug...but don't.
Don't you think the media would be stumbling over themselves to show people dying in the streets?
Where are the sick people? Unfortunately Lt, they are coming. Look at NYC as a valid depiction of the future. And New York is no where even close to the top of the bell curve yet. As Cuomo cries " What are we going to do with 400 ventilators? We need 30,000". You keep moving the goalposts. You posted that the death rate would be exponential. It isn't. You posted that those admitted to the hospital would increase exponentially. It didn't. You posted that the cold virus was more deadly than the flu. It isn't. Hospitalization rate is linear. Death rate is linear. Fatality rate below 1%. Everything you've posted has been wrong. Fuba Rski MD 1 Idaho Shooter 0 Well, except for the fact that Fubarski is wrong on the death rate. And the case fatality rate. Not sure on hospitalization rate. See the Worldometer USA coronavirus page I linked to above. Don't panic and scream that the sky is falling, but very especially do not believe "I survived Covid-19 last November". See the data and analyse for yourself.
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BSometer's been havin problems lately.
Problems in not bein able to keep the hysteria goin.
They had ta kill their graphs on the USA page at least, because they had exponential erection dysfunction.
They flattened out.
Easy to make things look exponential, when the numbers are small.
But they never took off like the liberals would like, so the graphs hadda go.
Recovered?
BSometer site still shows the Diamond Princess, and the other cruise ship cases as active, but none recovered.
None.
Months later.
Not possible.
1200 serious cases in the entire USA.
Tiny percentage of total cases, which as always is unknown, not the bullshit "confirmed" number they use in their calculation.
And NY needs 40,000 ventilators.
Like a true liberal, call BS on my post, but can't respond with an intelligent argument.
Claim my numbers are wrong, post your own calculations and numbers.
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although they did their damndest to scare the schit out of America with lies and propaganda, they themselves knew it was less of a danger than the common flu. Are you kidding me? It's both more infectious AND substantially more lethal.
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Claim my numbers are wrong, post your own calculations and numbers.
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Lisinopril gave you a dry non-productive cough? Just curious and I know it can affect everyone different but I've been taking 20mg/day for over 10 years with no issues.
That is a very common, very well known side effect of lisinopril. I took lisinopril for less than 2 weeks and had a really bad case of the coughs and it lingered for almost a month after I quit taking it. Thank you, I'd never heard that before.
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Claim my numbers are wrong, post your own calculations and numbers.
One word: Italy. Italy? OK They have nearly twice as much percentage of their population over age 65 compared to the US. (22 %vs. 13%)plus they are all living on top of each other (500 people per square mile vs 100 people per square mile ) compared to the U.S. . Their healthcare system is socialized which means lesser quality.
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Lisinopril gave you a dry non-productive cough? Just curious and I know it can affect everyone different but I've been taking 20mg/day for over 10 years with no issues.
That is a very common, very well known side effect of lisinopril. I took lisinopril for less than 2 weeks and had a really bad case of the coughs and it lingered for almost a month after I quit taking it. Thank you, I'd never heard that before. It's called ACE cough. Usually shows it's head in the late afternoon if you take your meds in the am. There are other alternatives if it's a bother.
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[quote=JTman]
Lisinopril gave you a dry non-productive cough? Just curious and I know it can affect everyone different but I've been taking 20mg/day for over 10 years with no issues. That is a very common, very well known side effect of lisinopril. I took lisinopril for less than 2 weeks and had a really bad case of the coughs and it lingered for almost a month after I quit taking it. [/quote I also have a dry cough from the medication, it is one of the side effects. +1 Moved on from it a few years ago.
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Where are the sick people? Italy? If you kiss everyone you meet on both cheeks, bad things are bound to happen.
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Italy's levelled off, and on the way down.
Never got exponential, in any event.
Liberal disinterest is the only thing growin exponential bout Italy.
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Every person on this board with an IQ above 60 knew exactly what my meaning was...
Why so few of them post, that’s the question.
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There are many, many factors that go into epidemiological modeling. No two hotspots are exactly alike. There are generalizations and there are strong mitigating factors that influence each particular subset. Wuhan isn't exactly like Northern Italy, which isn't like NYC, yet the similarities are cause for concern. Throw in the fact that China may not be very forthcoming with the truth and it skews everything.
So look at history. 1918 flu to be exact. Tale of two cities, Philadelphia and St. Louis. Philly had a parade with over 200K in spite of the fact that the SF was raging among returning soldiers. Within 72 hours hospitals were full and a few days later 2600 were dead. St. L basically shut the city down. Death rate was 1/8th of Phillys.
You might say we have better medicine and infrastructure today. That's true, but we also have far more efficient travel - plane. car, rail. Larger populace, etc. Spanish Flu also had 3 waves. If we're lucky, we'll only have 2. Social distancing can buy time for medical personnel to treat patients and researchers to get out a vaccine and also find meds for those who are actively infected. Italy didn't get that time and NYC is running out of it.
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