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Star Tron, "Smurf piss" as my wife likes to call, mix it with a non ethanol gas. http://www.starbrite.com/startron
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Why not just buy ethanol free? Its available here at select gas stations, but there is a small premium over E85.
As well, northerntool has some great steel fuel storage systems.
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I`ve been using this stuff for over 20 years. Have a 300 gal tank fill it every other year with marine gas/PRI-G . Not a problem with any of our gas engines, large and small .Try it you will agree . https://www.batterystuff.com/fuel-treatments/PRIG32oz.html
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Thanks for all the advise guys. Think I'll store 60 gals of non-ethanol with PRI-G for 18 months as an experiment and see how it does.
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Good choice . i began using it after getting my gas generator for when we had power outages.Soon after I started using the 300 gal`s of gas in my chainsaw , weed-whacker , snowblower ,20hp Honda outboard , wifes Subaru Outback , and even my Chevy pick-up . I`m either the luckiest man with his engines,zero issues ,, but my money is its this combo of marine grade fuel + PRI-G Good luck...
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Savatage, are you pulling 300 gallons out of the big tank every year, or is most of it sitting for several years? Thanks.
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Tarquin , we try and use it within 18 months as you plan. Know worries for me and that plan. 20 years , wont change it.
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I have had a Yamaha powered portable generator for 10-12 years that I wired to my house for occasional power outages. I use 87 octane gasoline with ethanol and keep the tank mostly full. With 1 exception, I've always used Sta-bil and have had absolutely no issues. The one time I had problems was when I tried Seafoam as a stabilizer. It corroded the pot metal petcock and caused a float issue in the carburetor bowl.
FWIW, any time I run my generator, I shut it off by closing the petcock and let.the engine run out of fuel rather than hitting the kill switch.
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Tarquin, Here in Northern Mi our gas prices go up in the winter, so we use the majority of it then, and the rest in our tools ect.
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Hard to find ethanol free gas around here, Diesel is also Bio.. Not the same as regular diesel. Rock and a hard spot. Rotate frequently is my only answer. That or Propane.
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Bruinruin , I used to run my engine with the gas-line off and let it stall as you state . Since using the PRI-G I never do that anymore, only exception is my Honda 20 4st outboard .Everything else 2-3 pulls and starts right up .Thats after sitting during the ( off ) season. I truly like the product. My .02
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non ethanol fuel to start with.
Royal purple octane booster because our local non ethanol is low octane. I think it helps the gas live longer too personally.
Seafoam for extending life. Running 2 plus year old gas done that way in the in laws boat motor, Yamaha oil injected 90, and it runs pretty good. I suspect brand new fuel will be better but we run almost the same speed/rpms that I've seen it run with new fuel so there is that. The fuel didn't smell that pretty but it wasn't bad either.
Rotate and you would be good.
Straight up low octane non ethanol fuel lasts an easy 6-9 months here in the heat. Ethanol fuel is crap in about 3-4 months.
I pour startron in our personal gas also but I'm not sure it does that much extra over the seafoam. But we use it in the fire dept for years and it never caused harm anyway.
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I converted my Miller engine drive to run on liquid withdrawal propane. It’s either that or diesel. What do you heat with?
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The Stabil naysayers are either FOS or simply haven’t used it themselves. It started as a simple experiment. I added 16oz of Marine formula Stabil to a full tank of fuel on my generator, and ran it through the carb. I always shut off the fuel cock and run the carb dry before storing. Every 6 months I would add about 6oz of Stabil, after running the generator for 5-20 minutes and then repeat draining the carb and storing.
Repeated this procedure just to see how long the fuel would last and run the generator under load without issues. This year is the 9th year and I’ve had to top off the tank once with about 3 gallons of fuel due to usage. Tank holds 7 gallons. Still starts on the 2nd pull, and will pull a load of 4500 watts without bogging or running rough. The fact that I have it stored in my basement which is temperature stable also helps, but Stabil absolutely works. This is regular pump gas BTW, not ethanol free.
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I buy aviation gas at the local rinkydink airport here in town...for power equipment around the house...
left fuel in the fuel tank on one of my mowers for the last 6 months.... second pull on the pull start and it fired right up and ran like I had just turned it off 5 minutes ago..
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Here in the cold country, Stabil is used in all of the toys that sit thru the winter and the other way around for the snow machines in the summer. It works.
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The Stabil naysayers are either FOS or simply haven’t used it themselves. It started as a simple experiment. I added 16oz of Marine formula Stabil to a full tank of fuel on my generator, and ran it through the carb. I always shut off the fuel cock and run the carb dry before storing. Every 6 months I would add about 6oz of Stabil, after running the generator for 5-20 minutes and then repeat draining the carb and storing.
Repeated this procedure just to see how long the fuel would last and run the generator under load without issues. This year is the 9th year and I’ve had to top off the tank once with about 3 gallons of fuel due to usage. Tank holds 7 gallons. Still starts on the 2nd pull, and will pull a load of 4500 watts without bogging or running rough. The fact that I have it stored in my basement which is temperature stable also helps, but Stabil absolutely works. This is regular pump gas BTW, not ethanol free. Thanks for sharing your experience.
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https://www.pure-gas.org/List of ethanol free gas stations in the US. This is pretty good. I live way out in the country and there is a little bitty gas station 2 miles away that sells only ethanol free. It is on this list.
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I buy aviation gas at the local rinkydink airport here in town...for power equipment around the house...
left fuel in the fuel tank on one of my mowers for the last 6 months.... second pull on the pull start and it fired right up and ran like I had just turned it off 5 minutes ago.. Brother works for a major small engine manufacturer. All they use for testing is av gas. Keep moisture out of it and it will last for nearly ever. Also through their testing stabil is the real deal and does what it claims. Cannot really use too much either he says to use at least double. I am a believer. I had a boat in storage for about a decade. Did everything to ensure the best storage possible. Never intended to store it as long as I did. Anyways I had filled the gas tank full to reduce condensation whole bottle of stabil non ethanol gas. Took it out of storage. Planned to take it to a dealer to have the motor gone through. Dreaded the thought of pulling out 32 gallons of gas. Knew for sure they would charge a ton to dispose of it. Removed the filler cap. Gas smelled as fresh as if it just came out the pump. I was shocked. Figured no way it was still good. Went and backed the boat in the lake. Second hit of the key and she fired right up. Idle was a bit off but it ran just fine, once it had about ten percent throttle ran perfect.
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Some preppers have found that real gasoline stored in airtight containers that displaced the air with propane and sealed them had stabilized fuel for 5 years
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