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We are still talking 98% survival rate - not that I believe the figures are at all accurate due to unknowns as stated in above posts. So many people apparently are not tested, and many show no symptoms, or very mild ones that go untreated, even un-noticed. If anything, the survivability rate is probably even higher. Everyone is hammering on deaths, cuz that's where the money is. Still ain't going around licking door knobs, myself. You broke your habit?
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Of those totals, there are 52,000 infected in NY and over 700 dead there.
Nothing like that here in flyover country. Hope it stays that way. ...................Yep! NY far more densely populated. Just a couple weeks or so ago, Health officials were telling people it was safe to take the subway. Oops. And Governor Fredo was fighting Trumps international travel.bans INTO New York City.. And Pelosi said Trump was causing folks to die to. And the Talking Heads at CNN asked Biden if Trump had blood on his hands. Where’s the outcries from Libertards to lynch DeBlasio
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Of those totals, there are 52,000 infected in NY and over 700 dead there.
Nothing like that here in flyover country. Hope it stays that way. ...................Yep! NY far more densely populated. BUILD A FENCE
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We will never know the total number of cases unless every person is tested. I don't see that happening.
Confirmed cases are probably way lower than total cases. It seems many cases are so mild they go un-noticed, or just very mild symptoms.
Although we are going to stack up some bodies, I believe it is a safe bet that the actual mortality is far lower than 1.78%
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1.78% of our USA population would be about 5.8 million. Hopefully it will not be anywhere near that bad.
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2575 deaths divided into 144,146 total cases = 0.017843%............Well below 1%..........% has been like that since this began..... Of course it is. It has to be. That's the way biology works. You aren't really that stupid, are you?
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2575 deaths divided into 144,146 total cases = 0.017843%............Well below 1%..........% has been like that since this began..... Of course it is. It has to be. That's the way biology works. You aren't really that stupid, are you? ..............GFY LeeeeeROY! Your dumb stupidity is only surpassed by your blatant lies and hypocrisy!!!
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1.78% of our USA population would be about 5.8 million. Hopefully it will not be anywhere near that bad. ............The virus curve will happen long beforehand....Trump has ordered the FDA to distribute the hydroxychloroquin and that other drug as well.....
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The numbers are compared at the incorrect period in time. Death typically comes weeks into illness. When you're counting those newly ill, that's a starting number. When discussing the dead that's an ending number. Persons who recovered are an ending number. Those numbers, illness onset and illness conclusion, are separated in time. This is especially true where the increase of the disease in the population is nonlinear. When we get a total of confirmed cases, that doesn't tell us when the illness began or whether the illness has concluded.
On March 16, 2020, there were approximately 4500 confirmed cases in the US. Based on the medical communities observations, most of those cases from two weeks ago are winding down with the patient recovering, or not. The new total number of dead today is 2575 in the US. No, that's not appropriate data for a percentage calculation but then neither is dividing today's dead into today's confirmed illness.
Next, two weeks ago, the confirmed cases number was 4500 with 88 dead. Now, it's 146,000 with 2575 dead. Cases have increased 32 fold in two weeks. Deaths have increased 29 fold. If those rates of increase don't change a lot, then in a month, a 100,000 total death toll will look like good times fondly remembered.
For those hoping it has already been around, think again. More than deaths, the hallmark of this nasty bug is the relatively high percentage rate of serious illness resulting in hospitalization. If you think you had it but your local hospitals weren't being crushed with pneumonia cases- then nope, you had the usual garden variety crap.
Let us all hope the current measures slow this thing down. I'm glad I don't live in a densely populated place.
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The numbers are compared at the incorrect period in time. Death typically comes weeks into illness. When you're counting those newly ill, that's a starting number. When discussing the dead that's an ending number. Persons who recovered are an ending number. Those numbers, illness onset and illness conclusion, are separated in time. This is especially true where the increase of the disease in the population is nonlinear. When we get a total of confirmed cases, that doesn't tell us when the illness began or whether the illness has concluded.
On March 16, 2020, there were approximately 4500 confirmed cases in the US. Based on the medical communities observations, most of those cases from two weeks ago are winding down with the patient recovering, or not. The new total number of dead today is 2575 in the US. No, that's not appropriate data for a percentage calculation but then neither is dividing today's dead into today's confirmed illness.
Next, two weeks ago, the confirmed cases number was 4500 with 88 dead. Now, it's 146,000 with 2575 dead. Cases have increased 32 fold in two weeks. Deaths have increased 29 fold. If those rates of increase don't change a lot, then in a month, a 100,000 total death toll will look like good times fondly remembered.
For those hoping it has already been around, think again. More than deaths, the hallmark of this nasty bug is the relatively high percentage rate of serious illness resulting in hospitalization. If you think you had it but your local hospitals weren't being crushed with pneumonia cases- then nope, you had the usual garden variety crap.
Let us all hope the current measures slow this thing down. I'm glad I don't live in a densely populated place.
.....You are correct. But for now, all we have is the tote board as a reference.....And Trump has ordered the distribution of the hydroxychloroquin. So imo, within the next two to three weeks the curve #s you mentioned above will be considerably reduced.
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What is the scale of 1.7% of the population, well it would be the loss in people in Japan, or twice the loss of the UK or Italy. This is in scale to population.
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2575 deaths divided into 144,146 total cases = 0.017843%............Well below 1%..........% has been like that since this began..... Of course it is. It has to be. That's the way biology works. You aren't really that stupid, are you? ..............GFY LeeeeeROY! Your dumb stupidity is only surpassed by your blatant lies and hypocrisy!!! Yup, you really are that stupid. Look at oklahunter's post and try, just try to digest it. Among concluded cases, mortality is double digits high. The vast majorit of cases are still pending. What's so hard to understand about this? Oh, yeah, you are moron, even by 24hrhypocrisy standards. Congratulations.
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2575 deaths divided into 144,146 total cases = 0.017843%............Well below 1%..........% has been like that since this began..... Of course it is. It has to be. That's the way biology works. You aren't really that stupid, are you? ..............GFY LeeeeeROY! Your dumb stupidity is only surpassed by your blatant lies and hypocrisy!!! Yup, you really are that stupid. Look at oklahunter's post and try, just try to digest it. Among concluded cases, mortality is double digits high. The vast majorit of cases are still pending. What's so hard to understand about this? Oh, yeah, you are moron, even by 24hrhypocrisy standards. Congratulations. ......You are the classic hit and then run artist. I know exactly what is going on you idiot!........The tote is only a reference. Oh and by the way genius, there is a "y" on the end of MAJORITY..... So when do you plan on giving us the reasons why Rush is an enemy of America and an enemy of the the US Constitution? AY CLOWN??? Specific laws broken please!! AY CLOWN???......Yep! You hit, then run, and when confronted?? Silence!!! And don't tell me you liar that you have not seen this question... C'mon LeeeeeRoy.... Use your Constitutional wizardry to site specific laws that Rush Limbaugh has broken, making him an enemy of America and an enemy of the US Constitution.......Constitutional wizardry??? What a laugh!.................... Time to back yourself up....When the lights come on, cockroaches usually run and hide.
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2575 deaths divided into 144,146 total cases = 0.017843%............Well below 1%..........% has been like that since this began..... Of course it is. It has to be. That's the way biology works. You aren't really that stupid, are you? ..............GFY LeeeeeROY! Your dumb stupidity is only surpassed by your blatant lies and hypocrisy!!! Yup, you really are that stupid. Look at oklahunter's post and try, just try to digest it. Among concluded cases, mortality is double digits high. The vast majorit of cases are still pending. What's so hard to understand about this? Oh, yeah, you are moron, even by 24hrhypocrisy standards. Congratulations. ......You are the classic hit and then run artist. I know exactly what is going on you idiot!........The tote is only a reference. Oh and by the way genius, there is a "y" on the end of MAJORITY..... So when do you plan on giving us the reasons why Rush is an enemy of America and an enemy of the the US Constitution? AY CLOWN??? Specific laws broken please!! AY CLOWN???......Yep! You hit, then run, and when confronted?? Silence!!! And don't tell me you liar that you have not seen this question... C'mon LeeeeeRoy.... Use your Constitutional wizardry to site specific laws that Rush Limbaugh has broken, making him an enemy of America and an enemy of the US Constitution.......Constitutional wizardry??? What a laugh!.................... Time to back yourself up....When the lights come on, cockroaches usually run and hide. Then you care the classic troll, looking for a fight, and not really caring about the facts. Rush lied, continues to lie and does everything he can to stir up dissension in America. He does exactly what Putin does. In fact, Rush was probably the inspiration for Putin's new cold war.
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2575 deaths divided into 144,146 total cases = 0.017843%............Well below 1%..........% has been like that since this began..... Of course it is. It has to be. That's the way biology works. You aren't really that stupid, are you? ..............GFY LeeeeeROY! Your dumb stupidity is only surpassed by your blatant lies and hypocrisy!!! Yup, you really are that stupid. Look at oklahunter's post and try, just try to digest it. Among concluded cases, mortality is double digits high. The vast majorit of cases are still pending. What's so hard to understand about this? Oh, yeah, you are moron, even by 24hrhypocrisy standards. Congratulations. ......You are the classic hit and then run artist. I know exactly what is going on you idiot!........The tote is only a reference. Oh and by the way genius, there is a "y" on the end of MAJORITY..... So when do you plan on giving us the reasons why Rush is an enemy of America and an enemy of the the US Constitution? AY CLOWN??? Specific laws broken please!! AY CLOWN???......Yep! You hit, then run, and when confronted?? Silence!!! And don't tell me you liar that you have not seen this question... C'mon LeeeeeRoy.... Use your Constitutional wizardry to site specific laws that Rush Limbaugh has broken, making him an enemy of America and an enemy of the US Constitution.......Constitutional wizardry??? What a laugh!.................... Time to back yourself up....When the lights come on, cockroaches usually run and hide. Then you care the classic troll, looking for a fight, and not really caring about the facts. Rush lied, continues to lie and does everything he can to stir up dissension in America. He does exactly what Putin does. In fact, Rush was probably the inspiration for Putin's new cold war. ........Not good enough IDIOT...Your F'd up opinions do NOT make your case. Opinions and heresay are not allowed within any court of law....You have not made your case against Rush either using the laws or using the Constitution.....You are a pitiful clown!!! And a lousy prosecutor!!...Nice try MORON!!!
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