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Link: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htmSome interesting numbers here for those that are willing to dig. Also, note the reporting criteria for covid.
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Things that jump out to me -
For the time periods reported, less Americans are dying than last year overall. Flu cases jumped ~900 off of the average as Covid cases jumped up to ~700. The reporting guidelines do not require a positive test. If you look at the WHO guidance, Covid should be listed not as the main cause but as contributing in any case where suspected. Where are the numbers from our daily shock headlines coming from?
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my suspicion is that any pneumonia,flu,acute cold ....etc, is going to be classified as covid when it comes to the body count.
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Until we have the capacity to test for acute illness and test those who have recovered, drama, fear and political posturing will rule.
How long it takes to get there is how long this is gonna last. Could be a while.
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this. hold on a bit longer.
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Why? What is really happening here?
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[align:center][/align] At Last a RATIONAL comment concerning the IDIOTIC conditions related Covid.
As a 40 yr teacher of Epidemiology I applaud you for going to a recognized reliable data source.
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my suspicion is that any pneumonia,flu,acute cold ....etc, is going to be classified as covid when it comes to the body count. PREZACTLY!!!
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Very interesting data, indeed.
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The libs at the CDC stole it from the Italians.
Everbody was freakin out bout the Italy statistics, and the Italians got pissed and pointed out that just about everbody that dies there was classified as dyin from Covid.
3 days later, the CDC issued its directions to doctors to classify everbody that dies as dyin from Covid, even with no test.
Since that time, "pneumonia" deaths have been down from average about 8-900 per day, and Covid deaths have been up 8-900 per day.
They're stealin dead bodies to fuel the hysteria.
ETA: Saw RNM had already posted the same numbers. Sry bout that.
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The libs at the CDC stole it from the Italians.
Everbody was freakin out bout the Italy statistics, and the Italians got pissed and pointed out that just about everbody that dies there was classified as dyin from Covid.
3 days later, the CDC issued its directions to doctors to classify everbody that dies as dyin from Covid, even with no test.
Since that time, "pneumonia" deaths have been down from average about 8-900 per day, and Covid deaths have been up 8-900 per day.
They're stealin dead bodies to fuel the hysteria. Yep!!!
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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The libs at the CDC stole it from the Italians.
Everbody was freakin out bout the Italy statistics, and the Italians got pissed and pointed out that just about everbody that dies there was classified as dyin from Covid.
3 days later, the CDC issued its directions to doctors to classify everbody that dies as dyin from Covid, even with no test.
Since that time, "pneumonia" deaths have been down from average about 8-900 per day, and Covid deaths have been up 8-900 per day.
They're stealin dead bodies to fuel the hysteria.
ETA: Saw RNM had already posted the same numbers. Sry bout that. Have any links to support any of that? Or was this more of the stuff the purple elephant in the corner told you?
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The libs at the CDC stole it from the Italians.
Everbody was freakin out bout the Italy statistics, and the Italians got pissed and pointed out that just about everbody that dies there was classified as dyin from Covid.
3 days later, the CDC issued its directions to doctors to classify everbody that dies as dyin from Covid, even with no test.
Since that time, "pneumonia" deaths have been down from average about 8-900 per day, and Covid deaths have been up 8-900 per day.
They're stealin dead bodies to fuel the hysteria.
ETA: Saw RNM had already posted the same numbers. Sry bout that. Have any links to support any of that? Or was this more of the stuff the purple elephant in the corner told you? RNM's link has the info.
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From the CDC’s web sight: “* Data include both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 reported to CDC or tested at CDC since January 21, 2020,” https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.htmlPRESUMTIVE means they are Fuqking GUESSING!!!
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Of course they’re guessing.
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The part as classifying everybody who dies, as having dies from covid. You make it sound as if every death in America is being classified as covid, even a heart attack or getting shot in the head. That link is talking about provisional labeling and subject to testing to confirm.
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If Jesse James had actually robbed all the banks and trains he was accused of robbing... he would not have needed to rob banks and trains.
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If Jesse James had actually robbed all the banks and trains he was accused of robbing... he would not have needed to rob banks and trains. PREZACTLY!!!
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Will COVID-19 be the underlying cause? The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate. However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID19 being the underlying cause more often than not." https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/...-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdfThe CDC is sayin, if there's any possible way ta call it Covid, call it Covid. Sanity is out the window.
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Will COVID-19 be the underlying cause? The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate. However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID19 being the underlying cause more often than not." https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/...-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdfThe CDC is sayin, if there's any possible way ta call it Covid, call it Covid. Sanity is out the window. Yep!!!
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