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Thats about what I found too.
Seems like it took a lot longer?
It did.
FJB & FJT
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New York 5489 deaths divided by 19,795,791 people = 0.00027%
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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New York 5489 deaths divided by 19,795,791 people = 0.00027%
Actually, 0.00027 is 0.027% when you convert from decimal to percentage, but it is still rather small.
Now with even more aplomb
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but it is still rather small. smaller than this bicycle?
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
MOLON LABE
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Only a little over 399,929 illnesses and at least 12,911 deaths, as of this morning according to FOX News.
The Death Toll is not growing exponentially like most here predicted. Fauci has sold Trump a load of schitt.
And ruined our Economy. Trump is destroying the Fed. He ran the markets up before this hit from the deep state. We would be screwed without that having happened. He will drive the central banks out of the Fed business and nationalize it. Notice, always before .Gov had the Fed printing money and giving it to the Central Bank(ers), ECB, IMF. Now hes going to pay them back. Who is He giving the promissory notes to? Hes giving it to small businesses and the folks. That's why the big banks are balking. The community banks are responding.They see the handwriting on the wall. I think Trump will "Getter Done".
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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Cars?
Toyota shut down KY ops till May, Fiat too.
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What would the death toll be without having shut schiett down including airtravel, hotels, resturants... and imposed social distancing.
Like, what percent of the kids from UT who chartered a plane to Mexico for spring break got it?
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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One small problem...... do you still believe?
Well, heres the CDC official figures as of today... 12754 US deaths That 690 since yesterday The day before they spiked at 3154 So it looks like the tide might be turning...but do you still believe? I'm not thinking the Virus is Armageddon, I'm thinking we've been systematically lied to about a lot of things on a lot of levels.
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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Wife and two daughters work at the Hospital in critical care departments that weren't effected by shutting down elective surgeries.
My family is at extreme risk to catch this viral infection. I believe I already had it in January but thats just hopeful wishing without any proof until the antibody testing becomes widespread. If I don't get infected and die first.
Everyday we go thru a household decontamination procedure of wiping everything down that can be touched. Wife and hospital daughter who lives with us change outback and stuff clothes in outside laundry bag then immediately take showers.
We also pull childcare duty for our grandson three nights a week as other daughter, who works in Radiology and has daily contact with infected and potentially infected patients doesn't want her son going anywhere else when her husband has to work, another essential worker outside of healthcare thank goodness.
I was extremely skeptical in early February of the damage and severity this pathogen could wreak.
That skepticism was gone by late February after spending tens of hours reading pre-Covid19 research, articles and pandemic readiness commission reports from years past.
This for sure is a societal and cultural changing event.
Was this the best plan for attacking this viral problem? Doubtful but there never is a best plan when your behind the bus and its rolling backward with no brakes.
Hindsight sight will always be 20/20, Nature is always trying to kill us every minute of the day.
My "opinion" currently is that distance mitigation and shutdown did help avoid a potential partial societal melt down. It reduced the load on the healthcare infrastructure for ALL morbidities and illnesses needing to be dealt with and built a large slack in the system and time for the US to gain a foothold and momentum to deal with the problem.
Nothings perfect and I might be infected as I write this.
Oh well gotta go shopping now for my parents who have been locked away for the last four weeks.
"Maybe we're all happy."
"Go to the sporting goods store. From the files, obtain form 4473. These will contain descriptions of weapons and lists of private ownership."
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I'd like to know just who is hurting? Or at least more than normally so.
In a household of 3, of which 2 are working, both are still employed. And we were actively employed until yesterday when my wife was referred to the covid 19 test center for a nasal swab test. We are now confined to the property by the county health authority pending results of her test. 4-10 days, supposedly.
Up til yesterday we carried on normal business with the exception of our habit of dining at local establishments. But we still support those establishments by ordering carry-out on a frequent basis. The biggest change for us is not attending regular church services, but we always tithe via online payment and it continues.
Even today, confined to our property we bought lunch for the covid 19 test team at the local hospital using a debit card over the phone. And the drive thru for this deli is busy daily, albeit on reduced hours.
Granted, if my wife is ill with covid 19 she will be the first in our county. And IF SO, I was undoubtedly the vector of illness for her, as I work in a city 60 miles from home and there are several confirmed cases at my place of work. My employer is Critical Defense and Transportation Infrastructure, and has no plans to shut down.
And with all that has gone on I still don't know anyone who has this virus as a confirmed case. My place of work is pretty big with 2500 or so folks working 24/7. Don't even personally know those who are ill there. The passing of Joe Diffie and John Prine has an impact on me. Diffie was a friend of and occasional fishing partner of a co-worker. His song "Ships" could be my personal anthem. Prine reminds us that even those with different world views can have roots like us.
If my wife should perish or become chronically ill, and it be confirmed as covid19 then it would hurt us. Same with friends family, and so on. But that is not the reality yet, and may never be.
Think it's time for the wife and I to sit out in the sun for a bit... Is this a joke? you really can't figure out who is hurting? wtf Guess as long as your government job supplies a paycheck all is ok?Where in the world did you come up with me working a government job? And the only thing shut down within a hundred miles of me are casinos and state parks. If you worked for either one I'd feel sorry for you on the best of days. Who exactly is hurt? Asking again...
"Chances Will Be Taken"
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The county meat wagon is making three passes a day now.
Actually there have been 4 verified cases in the entire county. In the last week 3 have been moved to the "recovered" column.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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Literally thousands of bars and restaurants and their employees in WI.
I know - I'm friends with almost every one of them in my town. They're barely treading water but given that this is the time of year they need to make $$ to get them through winter - they're going to go under.
They might limp through this summer but next fall/winter without this summer's revenue will kill them.
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Bad....but, far from apocalyptic, like many predicted! I’m sure that the extreme measures that were taken has helped tremendously. But, the destruction of the growing American economy.....was a cost that will be with us for years. And....potentially putting us at a position of being “more” dependent upon the “chicoms”! memtb
Agreed, except the last part. I think it will be an eye opener for America to build some stuff here. This put a great big dagger in the heart of "Global Economy" - the Democratic dream child.
A true sportsman counts his achievements in proportion to the effort involved and fairness of the sport. - S. Pope
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We changed our actions, and that's changing the results: My "opinion" currently is that distance mitigation and shutdown did help avoid a potential partial societal melt down. It reduced the load on the healthcare infrastructure for ALL morbidities and illnesses needing to be dealt with and built a large slack in the system and time for the US to gain a foothold and momentum to deal with the problem.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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Sooo, with fairly extraordinary precautions and actions....we limit things to a fairly terrible flu year?
Just to understand....through taking extraordinary actions....we keep it to a moderately dull roar? Dammit Jim - they're graphic illustrations of the Dunning-Kruger effect, not doctors!
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Sooo, with fairly extraordinary precautions and actions....we limit things to a fairly terrible flu year?
Just to understand....through taking extraordinary actions....we keep it to a moderately dull roar? Dammit Jim - they're graphic illustrations of the Dunning-Kruger effect, not doctors! Ok genuis, share your bona fides........ lets compare Many geniuses share my theories..... do they suffer from Dunning /Kruger? Fuuuckin tool
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Dammit....now I am gonna have to look up Dunning/Kruger.......aren't I?
I am MAGA.
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Sooo, with fairly extraordinary precautions and actions....we limit things to a fairly terrible flu year?
Just to understand....through taking extraordinary actions....we keep it to a moderately dull roar? Dammit Jim - they're graphic illustrations of the Dunning-Kruger effect, not doctors! Oh and dumbass, share your solutions, you haven't so I assume you go along with the experts? A clue moron , if you research my post I have stated alternatives to what has been done. I will repeat them for you. 1. Identify the vulnerable 2. quarantine the vulnerable 3. Identify resources of the vulnerable 3. No resources the government should help 4. If necessary commandeer motels/hotels to house them 5. Identify hot spots Basically put resources where the problem is and let young healthy people work and move about..... One size fits all approach is plain stupid So genius your turn You may want to get evaluated for Dunning/Kruger
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Dammit....now I am gonna have to look up Dunning/Kruger.......aren't I? Too stupid to know what they don't know Jim
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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I'd like to know just who is hurting? Or at least more than normally so.
In a household of 3, of which 2 are working, both are still employed. And we were actively employed until yesterday when my wife was referred to the covid 19 test center for a nasal swab test. We are now confined to the property by the county health authority pending results of her test. 4-10 days, supposedly.
Up til yesterday we carried on normal business with the exception of our habit of dining at local establishments. But we still support those establishments by ordering carry-out on a frequent basis. The biggest change for us is not attending regular church services, but we always tithe via online payment and it continues.
Even today, confined to our property we bought lunch for the covid 19 test team at the local hospital using a debit card over the phone. And the drive thru for this deli is busy daily, albeit on reduced hours.
Granted, if my wife is ill with covid 19 she will be the first in our county. And IF SO, I was undoubtedly the vector of illness for her, as I work in a city 60 miles from home and there are several confirmed cases at my place of work. My employer is Critical Defense and Transportation Infrastructure, and has no plans to shut down.
And with all that has gone on I still don't know anyone who has this virus as a confirmed case. My place of work is pretty big with 2500 or so folks working 24/7. Don't even personally know those who are ill there. The passing of Joe Diffie and John Prine has an impact on me. Diffie was a friend of and occasional fishing partner of a co-worker. His song "Ships" could be my personal anthem. Prine reminds us that even those with different world views can have roots like us.
If my wife should perish or become chronically ill, and it be confirmed as covid19 then it would hurt us. Same with friends family, and so on. But that is not the reality yet, and may never be.
Think it's time for the wife and I to sit out in the sun for a bit... Is this a joke? you really can't figure out who is hurting? wtf Guess as long as your government job supplies a paycheck all is ok?Where in the world did you come up with me working a government job? And the only thing shut down within a hundred miles of me are casinos and state parks. If you worked for either one I'd feel sorry for you on the best of days. Who exactly is hurt? Asking again... The part where you said "critical defense & transportation"..... so you don't deal in government contracts? As far as who is suffering, every non essential small business and the employee's of said business, you really don't get that? Small business account for 44% of the US economy, now they are an endangered species thanks to the experts "models" junk science, and those of you in the scientific community better start policing your own. If you don't , you lose credibility along with the junk peddlers.
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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