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Yes, a friend has a Dillon, and you will invest a lot of time and effort getting the press setup and learning how it runs. Changing from rifle to pistol is another learning curve. I like things simple and like seeing each step easily. A Turret press is very simple to use and operate.
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All a turret press saves is the time to screw in the dies, a small time saver *before* Hornady lock and load bushings.
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On my Lee, I just leave all the dies locked in the head for pistol calibers. Now that it's set up I throw the head in the press, set up my powder drop, double check weights a few times, and I'm good to go in 5 minutes. It may not be ideal for pistol match reloads, but for plinking it's fine.
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Really?
You guys cant save money by reloading? We don’t all get to use unauthorized child labor to work the press
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So now I am looking at a different color. Looks like they have a similar five-station machine for about $1300, with a case feeder, but they also include a bullet feeder, which is an extra $500 with the first color. Also, caliber swaps seem much easier, without the need for multiple preset assemblies, and more along the lines of swapping dies. And my experience with the second color is all good in therms of quality.
Looking for downsides ...
It better not be red.  Difficulty of switching between calibers is generally overblown IME, and while it is slower on an auto-indexing machine, it isn't a lot slower. You make that time back in the first 40 handle pulls.
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How much is 'Flave's bail? $1308.91?
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$1300 bucks? I ain't gettin it.
$450 bucks for a Hornady L-n-L from Grafs. 35 bucks for a shell plate. 80 or 90 bucks for a huge box of once fired brass from gunbroker. All same brand. 60 bucks for 2000 primers.
We are at $600. Good gosh that leaves a pile of cash for bullets & powder.
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$1300 bucks? I ain't gettin it.
$450 bucks for a Hornady L-n-L from Grafs. 35 bucks for a shell plate. 80 or 90 bucks for a huge box of once fired brass from gunbroker. All same brand. 60 bucks for 2000 primers.
We are at $600. Good gosh that leaves a pile of cash for bullets & powder. A buddy has a LNL and has had a case of buyers remorse just after buying it...........Reds cheaper but it never will come close to blue!
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Them bullets start lookin' awful tasty after a couple hundred rounds of pistol on a single stage, and I fear I might eat one. 
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I know that I've not heard a bad word about blue, & I don't know anything about a L-n-L, but everytime I sit down in front of my 25 year old Pro Jector I wonder about all the re builds on the Blues.
I guess just don't load a much as the guys on the blues. I would like to try one some day, but my PJ hasn't given me a reason.
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Yes, a friend has a Dillon, and you will invest a lot of time and effort getting the press setup and learning how it runs. Changing from rifle to pistol is another learning curve. I like things simple and like seeing each step easily. A Turret press is very simple to use and operate. Progressive 5 hole.....1000 rounds = 1005 pulls Turret 4 hole........1000 rounds = 4000 pulls
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I like to practice with the loads I use in the field.. and that good sir is pricey unless you reload.
There is no way I could save money reloading cheapo rounds.
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$1300 bucks? I ain't gettin it.
$450 bucks for a Hornady L-n-L from Grafs. 35 bucks for a shell plate. 80 or 90 bucks for a huge box of once fired brass from gunbroker. All same brand. 60 bucks for 2000 primers.
We are at $600. Good gosh that leaves a pile of cash for bullets & powder. A buddy has a LNL and has had a case of buyers remorse just after buying it...........Reds cheaper but it never will come close to blue! I own two Hornady AP LnL presses and niether has ever missed a lick
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I like to practice with the loads I use in the field.. and that good sir is pricey unless you reload.
There is no way I could save money reloading cheapo rounds.
I reload .223 for seventeen cents per round
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I guess one could do the math and figure out what the cost is per pull. Unless I start shooting a bunch more I can afford more pulls than $$.
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I have owned both blue and red. You cannot go wrong owning a blue machine. However I prefer red over the blue 650. Primer set up, use of bushings and there is a reason why some blue owners use a red powder measure set up. Red is much more capable at loading larger rifle cases.
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"What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as freedom should not be highly rated." Thomas Paine
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have had the primer tube on the Dillon go off once.
God bless Texas-----------------------
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I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull
Its not how you pick the booger..
but where you put it !!
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