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Hard core liberty lover here. All this covid crap, including the trillions of spending of money out of thin air, pisses me off severely. As did the follow on effects of 9/11. As did the murders of Sammy and Vicky Weaver, the Branch Davidians, Lavoy Finicum, and others. As does the capacity of fellow Americans to sit on their collective asses and bitch, but expect some miracle to come from above and fix everything, rather than get up and do anything about it.

I do not speak as one come lately to this, nor as one who has watched it from a chair. I have been involved in forming and been on the boards of various political action organizations for decades. I have associated with militia units when I felt there were solid people in them. I have worked with local candidates, the central committees in my area, and been the regional coordinator for a presidential campaign. Been a delegate to county, district and state caucuses and conventions. Have spent time in the state capitol and been on a first name basis with representatives and senators. Have one US Senator who will avoid me like the plague when we happen to be in the same room. He should. He is a snake in the grass crook. Like most of the rest of them.

All this has shown me the utter futility of expecting any sort of good to come from the state houses or the nation’s capitol. If we want liberty, we will absolutely have to get up and get it for ourselves. If we do stand up, there will be no quarter given, none expected. It is win or lose. If we win, we get to try to run what we took over without running it into the ground. If we fail at that, we end up worse than we started. If we lose, it’s just an unmarked grave. But liberty is not achieved by men in suits. It is achieved in spite of them.

Local folks were asking me to run for the state rep office. I told them I wasn’t their guy, unless they were looking for busted heads at the capitol. If I had to work in that den of snakes every day, there would absolutely be violence in the workplace. I am ready to fight for liberty, absolutely. But we have no clear leadership, no clear strategy, no clear mission, and may lack the support of the population at large. As long as America is comfortable, they will tolerate tyranny. Take away the comfort, and a percentage will fight for liberty, and a percentage will simply want whatever brings the comfort back. You guess what the spread is...

I think the comfort lovers outnumber the liberty lovers by a large margin. And I have no interest in being that “lone gunman” while the rest of America sits back and talks about where I went wrong. Ask Lavoy Finicum or Randy Weaver how that works. So all y’all on that high horse, asking folks like Whackem, True Grit, Bobmt, and I why we haven’t got the ball rolling? It’s because we are not going to pledge our lives, fortunes and sacred honor to a bunch of dual personality cheerleaders who fully intend to watch the fight from their lazyboy recliner, and cut us to ribbons before, during and after we make the play.

Wisdom. Naked, unadulterated wisdom.

As someone whom is on the edge of having a bad outcome with C-19 I think it would be better to get the virus and retain all freedom than live with what is going on now.

Even a blind pig finds an acorn now and again......

Toot laid out a challenge and I felt obligated to step up.....

Hard core liberty lover here. All this covid crap, including the trillions of spending of money out of thin air, pisses me off severely. As did the follow on effects of 9/11. As did the murders of Sammy and Vicky Weaver, the Branch Davidians, Lavoy Finicum, and others. As does the capacity of fellow Americans to sit on their collective asses and bitch, but expect some miracle to come from above and fix everything, rather than get up and do anything about it.

I do not speak as one come lately to this, nor as one who has watched it from a chair. I have been involved in forming and been on the boards of various political action organizations for decades. I have associated with militia units when I felt there were solid people in them. I have worked with local candidates, the central committees in my area, and been the regional coordinator for a presidential campaign. Been a delegate to county, district and state caucuses and conventions. Have spent time in the state capitol and been on a first name basis with representatives and senators. Have one US Senator who will avoid me like the plague when we happen to be in the same room. He should. He is a snake in the grass crook. Like most of the rest of them.

All this has shown me the utter futility of expecting any sort of good to come from the state houses or the nation’s capitol. If we want liberty, we will absolutely have to get up and get it for ourselves. If we do stand up, there will be no quarter given, none expected. It is win or lose. If we win, we get to try to run what we took over without running it into the ground. If we fail at that, we end up worse than we started. If we lose, it’s just an unmarked grave. But liberty is not achieved by men in suits. It is achieved in spite of them.

Local folks were asking me to run for the state rep office. I told them I wasn’t their guy, unless they were looking for busted heads at the capitol. If I had to work in that den of snakes every day, there would absolutely be violence in the workplace. I am ready to fight for liberty, absolutely. But we have no clear leadership, no clear strategy, no clear mission, and may lack the support of the population at large. As long as America is comfortable, they will tolerate tyranny. Take away the comfort, and a percentage will fight for liberty, and a percentage will simply want whatever brings the comfort back. You guess what the spread is...

I think the comfort lovers outnumber the liberty lovers by a large margin. And I have no interest in being that “lone gunman” while the rest of America sits back and talks about where I went wrong. Ask Lavoy Finicum or Randy Weaver how that works. So all y’all on that high horse, asking folks like Whackem, True Grit, Bobmt, and I why we haven’t got the ball rolling? It’s because we are not going to pledge our lives, fortunes and sacred honor to a bunch of dual personality cheerleaders who fully intend to watch the fight from their lazyboy recliner, and cut us to ribbons before, during and after we make the play.

We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

Sniper.... thanks that part went right over my head.... I don't recall Virginia being in the question?
To complete the survey.... no I am not going to Virginia, I have been told to shelter in place... or else granny's death is on my shoulders...

We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

Hard core liberty lover here. All this covid crap, including the trillions of spending of money out of thin air, pisses me off severely. As did the follow on effects of 9/11. As did the murders of Sammy and Vicky Weaver, the Branch Davidians, Lavoy Finicum, and others. As does the capacity of fellow Americans to sit on their collective asses and bitch, but expect some miracle to come from above and fix everything, rather than get up and do anything about it.

I do not speak as one come lately to this, nor as one who has watched it from a chair. I have been involved in forming and been on the boards of various political action organizations for decades. I have associated with militia units when I felt there were solid people in them. I have worked with local candidates, the central committees in my area, and been the regional coordinator for a presidential campaign. Been a delegate to county, district and state caucuses and conventions. Have spent time in the state capitol and been on a first name basis with representatives and senators. Have one US Senator who will avoid me like the plague when we happen to be in the same room. He should. He is a snake in the grass crook. Like most of the rest of them.

All this has shown me the utter futility of expecting any sort of good to come from the state houses or the nation’s capitol. If we want liberty, we will absolutely have to get up and get it for ourselves. If we do stand up, there will be no quarter given, none expected. It is win or lose. If we win, we get to try to run what we took over without running it into the ground. If we fail at that, we end up worse than we started. If we lose, it’s just an unmarked grave. But liberty is not achieved by men in suits. It is achieved in spite of them.

Local folks were asking me to run for the state rep office. I told them I wasn’t their guy, unless they were looking for busted heads at the capitol. If I had to work in that den of snakes every day, there would absolutely be violence in the workplace. I am ready to fight for liberty, absolutely. But we have no clear leadership, no clear strategy, no clear mission, and may lack the support of the population at large. As long as America is comfortable, they will tolerate tyranny. Take away the comfort, and a percentage will fight for liberty, and a percentage will simply want whatever brings the comfort back. You guess what the spread is...

I think the comfort lovers outnumber the liberty lovers by a large margin. And I have no interest in being that “lone gunman” while the rest of America sits back and talks about where I went wrong. Ask Lavoy Finicum or Randy Weaver how that works. So all y’all on that high horse, asking folks like Whackem, True Grit, Bobmt, and I why we haven’t got the ball rolling? It’s because we are not going to pledge our lives, fortunes and sacred honor to a bunch of dual personality cheerleaders who fully intend to watch the fight from their lazyboy recliner, and cut us to ribbons before, during and after we make the play.

Absolutely spot on! I couldn't agree more!

I thought Whackem was spot on, then I saw this. I'm with you 100%. I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

I thought Whackem was spot on, then I saw this. I'm with you 100%. I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

whackem_stackem, agree with you 100%.

What’s been proven is that the vast majority of the people will indeed trade essentaqil liberty for a little safety. As Ben Franklin said, thus we deserve neither.

We need to remember and vote out those governors and others who have shown their tyrannical intentions and proclivities.

Remember, however, that only 3% of Colonials took the field in the 1776-1783 era. True patriots make a difference.

Ol Toot, refer to your sig line before asking others how they will vote, will you? The degree of others’ privacy is no business of yours. No flame intended, just pointing out the hypocrisy of the post when compared against your signature line.