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Posted By: TrueGrit Live free or die? - 04/11/20
http://video.foxnews.com/v/6148696687001/
Tucker makes a bunch of good points like usual.
Posted By: TrueGrit Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
“Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils.” Hopefully people won't give up their guns as easily as they gave up their freedom.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Die, Mofo.
Posted By: whackem_stackem Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.
Posted By: EthanEdwards Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.
When are you starting the revolution? Are you headed to Virginia as we speak?
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.


Are you related to Elkslayer? The one that survived the death panels?
Posted By: 280shooter Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Common sense is not accepted by the panic girls.
Posted By: Flashman Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
With freedom comes responsibilities.
Posted By: deerstalker Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

Patrick Henry, is that you?
best post I have seen on the fire ever.
Posted By: 280shooter Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Flashman
With freedom comes responsibilities.



This thread will clear that up.

All fault lies with the employer
Posted By: 1minute Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Other than a bunch of events being canceled, Cookie and I are pursuing all of our normal in/out door activities.
Posted By: irfubar Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
The chicken littles here at the campfire played right into it... they took me to task for saying it was exaggerated, they accused me of endangering others etc..... I was labeled a denier, a menace to society.
Remember who these people are.....


If it saves one child.....
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

Patrick Henry, is that you?
best post I have seen on the fire ever.


Please raise your standards.
Thanks.
Posted By: Fubarski Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
This country would be stronger if all the covtards died.
Posted By: TrueGrit Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

I couldn't agree more with what your saying. And totally shocked that more Americans don't feel the same way. I feel like a sheep and honestly don't know what to do about it.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

I couldn't agree more with what your saying. And totally shocked that more Americans don't feel the same way. I feel like a sheep and honestly don't know what to do about it.


Let us know when the armed rebellion starts.
Posted By: Fubarski Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

I couldn't agree more with what your saying. And totally shocked that more Americans don't feel the same way. I feel like a sheep and honestly don't know what to do about it.


Let us know when the armed rebellion starts.


So you can get a head start, runnin the other way.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Fubarski
This country would be stronger if all the covtards died.


There are none. You said that the hospitals are empty. Make up your fuggin mind.
Posted By: UPhiker Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

I couldn't agree more with what your saying. And totally shocked that more Americans don't feel the same way. I feel like a sheep and honestly don't know what to do about it.


Let us know when the armed rebellion starts.

He's too busy typing...
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

I couldn't agree more with what your saying. And totally shocked that more Americans don't feel the same way. I feel like a sheep and honestly don't know what to do about it.


Let us know when the armed rebellion starts.


So you can get a head start, runnin the other way.



This from The Patriot.

You could always try to come and chase me ???
Posted By: irfubar Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

I couldn't agree more with what your saying. And totally shocked that more Americans don't feel the same way. I feel like a sheep and honestly don't know what to do about it.


Let us know when the armed rebellion starts.


The resistance fighters need to be sure to wear a mask.... can't be too careful
Posted By: BobMt Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20


good post wackem…...I agree 100%...…bob
Posted By: deerstalker Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

Patrick Henry, is that you?
best post I have seen on the fire ever.


Please raise your standards.
Thanks.

Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

I couldn't agree more with what your saying. And totally shocked that more Americans don't feel the same way. I feel like a sheep and honestly don't know what to do about it.


Let us know when the armed rebellion starts.


So you can get a head start, runnin the other way.



This from The Patriot.

You could always try to come and chase me ???

I certainly will ! ignore button for you is long overdue.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

I couldn't agree more with what your saying. And totally shocked that more Americans don't feel the same way. I feel like a sheep and honestly don't know what to do about it.


Let us know when the armed rebellion starts.


The resistance fighters need to be sure to wear a mask.... can't be too careful


And practice distancing. Don’t want to get hit by friendly fire.
Posted By: Fubarski Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
This from The Patriot.

You could always try to come and chase me ???


No danger to anyone from you.

You've stated numerous times, you won't engage in any activity that presents more than a 0.00000017 chance of you dyin.

So you would be standin still and be run over.

As it should be.


Posted By: antelope_sniper Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.



This is not the worst it's been in our life times. Perhaps it's the worst it's been HERE, but there are more extreme examples from other regions.

In this clip, Dr. Richard Preston discusses the conditions in Africa during the Ebola outbreak, and how under those conditions families willingly took many actions considered unthinkable in normal times. Fortunately, this outbreak is not Ebola, but it is still real, and needs to be respected.

Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

Patrick Henry, is that you?
best post I have seen on the fire ever.


Please raise your standards.
Thanks.

Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

I couldn't agree more with what your saying. And totally shocked that more Americans don't feel the same way. I feel like a sheep and honestly don't know what to do about it.


Let us know when the armed rebellion starts.


So you can get a head start, runnin the other way.



This from The Patriot.

You could always try to come and chase me ???

I certainly will ! ignore button for you is long overdue.



Ignore.
The mark of, “I can’t stand it !!”

Thanks for your earlier patience which has now expired. I’ll miss your sage commentaries and reparte’.

Now,,,,go to your safe place and be well.
Posted By: BobMt Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20



a-s...….I do agree this should be taken seriously......wackems post is spot on.....we are talking America here....not Africa.

how other countries do things with their citizens should have no bearing on us...…….bob
Posted By: Fubarski Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by BobMt
how other countries do things with their citizens should have no bearing on us...…….bob


Not if you're a globalist.

It's the first answer.

As we can see.
Posted By: wdenike Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

Patrick Henry, is that you?
best post I have seen on the fire ever.


Please raise your standards.
Thanks.

Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

I couldn't agree more with what your saying. And totally shocked that more Americans don't feel the same way. I feel like a sheep and honestly don't know what to do about it.


Let us know when the armed rebellion starts.


So you can get a head start, runnin the other way.



This from The Patriot.

You could always try to come and chase me ???

I certainly will ! ignore button for you is long overdue.







I normally don't even think about the ignore option. Nor directly single a person out personally. But am having second thoughts about both. Because you are right about your thought process. This guy along with about a dozen others are FUGGEN AZZ HOLES.





Take care, Willie
Posted By: boatammo Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Bob You are exactly correct. But the globalists so want us to all be alike so that they won't get shot taking us over. We have a bunch of them here on the fire.
I'm so glad I don't live in the poop-hole cities or either of the coasts. Lots of cidiots here also.
MAGA
Posted By: wdenike Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.




Way to go buddy!!!!!! Unfortunately I believe the country does not have the stomach, or backbone for what needs done.

But...but....but... We can take care of it at the ballot box is what they say. MAIL IN VOTING ANYONE???? LMFAO



Take care, Willie
Posted By: EthanEdwards Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Folks...it seems to me that a lot of people are doing exactly what our enemies wish us to do, and that is turn against each other in troubled times. I will say up front that I have no idea whether the disease is a big scam or is the Apocalypse. I've said it on here many times. You can't trust the big boys, you can't trust the Chinese, you can't trust the government, you can't trust the Dems and you can't trust the MSM. If you can believe ANYTHING in the news, there are a lot of people dying and some of them are the beautiful people. I don't know if the government's response was the right one, but I'm willing to go along with most of it for right now. It's for the most part, not stuff that hasn't been done before.

To me the stuff that happened in California, New York and finally...Virginia, all before the COVID struck, was more worthy of more of a response than it got from us than being for the most part ASKED, to stay home for awhile. If it continues a lot longer, something will blow. Let us all not turn on each other and let us watch closely what is happening, while keeping our families safe from this disease and from those who would ensnare and enslave us.

Happy Easter to all.
Posted By: bowfisher Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Excellent post whackem. It's interesting to see the levels of character here not too mention the levels of fear, in different individuals. Some guys here are so invested in the isolation practices that they are 2 weeks away from putting folks on a train to a concentration camp. Panic ridden, grabbing on to whatever they think will give them some guarantee of safety and a happy ending.


Acknowledging and submitting to a 2 week period of isolation for the betterment of the group is one thing, blindly listening to gov't officials that don't know their head from their ass, and considering every word gospel, is quite another. The narrative changes by the day.....most of them know very little of what's actually happening and cannot project with any level of accuracy. Elected officials that have shown, during this time of testing, to be completely inadequate. But yet, grown men, who should know better hang off their every word. It's embarrassing to watch.

It will be interesting to see, now that even the simpleton understands that actions have consequences, how many of these folks will keep the same level of fervor as we move forward, with regard to natural occurrence and the future political narrative.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
This from The Patriot.

You could always try to come and chase me ???


No danger to anyone from you.

You've stated numerous times, you won't engage in any activity that presents more than a 0.00000017 chance of you dyin.

So you would be standin still and be run over.

As it should be.




Make up your fuggin mind, Alice.

What did your last hospital ‘Courtesy Tour ‘ yield for you ? You still in with the ‘in crowd’ when others are forbidden to enter ?

Please,,,tell me your latest escapade and what you determined.
Posted By: whackem_stackem Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.



This is not the worst it's been in our life times. Perhaps it's the worst it's been HERE, but there are more extreme examples from other regions.

In this clip, Dr. Richard Preston discusses the conditions in Africa during the Ebola outbreak, and how under those conditions families willingly took many actions considered unthinkable in normal times. Fortunately, this outbreak is not Ebola, but it is still real, and needs to be respected.



This isn't Africa. This is the USA and that's what I'm talking about.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by wdenike
Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

Patrick Henry, is that you?
best post I have seen on the fire ever.


Please raise your standards.
Thanks.

Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

I couldn't agree more with what your saying. And totally shocked that more Americans don't feel the same way. I feel like a sheep and honestly don't know what to do about it.


Let us know when the armed rebellion starts.


So you can get a head start, runnin the other way.



This from The Patriot.

You could always try to come and chase me ???

I certainly will ! ignore button for you is long overdue.







I normally don't even think about the ignore option. Nor directly single a person out personally. But am having second thoughts about both. Because you are right about your thought process. This guy along with about a dozen others are FUGGEN AZZ HOLES.





Take care, Willie


Ignore is your friend.

Take care, Willie.
Toot
Posted By: Fubarski Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
What did your last hospital ‘Courtesy Tour ‘ yield for you ? You still in with the ‘in crowd’ when others are forbidden to enter ?

Please,,,tell me your latest escapade and what you determined.


Only need to go once.

Wanted ta make certain things was the way I thought they were, before I started callin out Covtards like you.

Posted that the hospital was mostly empty. Later confirmed by other hospital reports here on the fire.

Posted that people weren't bein given Covid-Y2K tests, unless they were bein admitted to the hospital. Later confirmed by other hospital reports here on the fire.

Posted that the hospital wasn;t overwhelmed by those needin treatment. Later confirmed by other hospital reports here on the fire.

Everthing I posted was accurate.

The other Covtards have given up on fantasizing bout there bein an error reported regarding my visit, but feel free to be my biggest fan.
Posted By: pete53 Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
i live in the country still do as i want,i never want to go too town anyway,except for beer ,gas maybe some groceries once or twice a month.daughter brings my little grandkids over for the week days ,because they both have to work and these little sweethearts keep me extra busy .
Posted By: whackem_stackem Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
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Posted By: wdenike Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
LMFAO







Take care, Willie
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
What did your last hospital ‘Courtesy Tour ‘ yield for you ? You still in with the ‘in crowd’ when others are forbidden to enter ?

Please,,,tell me your latest escapade and what you determined.


Only need to go once.

Wanted ta make certain things was the way I thought they were, before I started callin out Covtards like you.

Posted that the hospital was mostly empty. Later confirmed by other hospital reports here on the fire.

Posted that people weren't bein given Covid-Y2K tests, unless they were bein admitted to the hospital. Later confirmed by other hospital reports here on the fire.

Posted that the hospital wasn;t overwhelmed by those needin treatment. Later confirmed by other hospital reports here on the fire.

Everthing I posted was accurate.

The other Covtards have given up on fantasizing bout there bein an error reported regarding my visit, but feel free to be my biggest fan.



Actually, what you initially posted was a fuggin lie. From that lie you continued to build upon it and yet persist.

Ignore is your friend too.
Posted By: Fubarski Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Actually, what you initially posted was a fuggin lie. From that lie you continued to build upon it and yet persist.

Ignore is your friend too.


Typical Covtard.

Every response is SYJMU.
Posted By: memtb Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20

I suspect that this is possibly a test, by many governments across the globe ....to determine just how easily it is to remove all freedoms from it’s citizens. If this is truly a “test”....it appears that they’ve successfully proved what “sheep” most people are, and how willing we are to void our rights! Below is information pertaining to an experiment by our government during the ‘50’s to ascertain the “gullibility” of the American public! memtb


“Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.” Benjamin Franklin


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Actually, what you initially posted was a fuggin lie. From that lie you continued to build upon it and yet persist.

Ignore is your friend too.


Typical Covtard.

Every response is SYJMU.


Yeah. Your lies just won’t go away, will they ?
Try ignore. That’ll help you if you can’t see it z
Posted By: whackem_stackem Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by deerstalker

Patrick Henry, is that you?

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Posted By: antelope_sniper Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by BobMt



a-s...….I do agree this should be taken seriously......wackems post is spot on.....we are talking America here....not Africa.

how other countries do things with their citizens should have no bearing on us...…….bob


Bob,

Pathogens don't care about arbitrary labels such as American vs. African. The American Flag is not a magical barrier against viruses.

Besides, Wackem's engaging in his own kind of fear mongering. Dairy farmer being told to sell their herds over COVID? Really. The problem with the dairy industry has nothing to do wit COVID, it's that we are over supplied with dairy products.

Hotlines and new forms to report violators? Haven't seen any of that here.

Yes, we have some temporary rules that you can't be stupid and congregate, especially in ways more likely to spread the virus. Limits of personal actions that affect others is nothing new. Your second amendment rights don't give you the right to shoot into a crowd, nor do your right to exercise religious liberties give you the right to infect that same crowd. We have real examples of this virus spreading like wild fire through religious events, such as the Church of Spitter in Korea, and the Presbyterian Choir practice in Washington.

Yes, our medical system is being stressed, and this leads to difficult decisions being made. Yes, most elective (that's a key word) surgeries are postponed, and risks and benefits of other surgeries must be weighted. Here's an interesting data point for you. In China, 40% of traceable transmissions happened in hospitals. So, you're a doctor. You have a patient who's 80 years old and needs a surgery. To receive it, they have to come to a location were you KNOW the virus exists, and it they contract it, just based on their age alone, there's a 30% change they don't survive. Add in the risk factors related to the needed surgery, well.... Do you get the picture?

As for rounding up families on cattle cars, what did I say about fear mongering?

Keep in mind, you're just being asked to say home for awhile, and spend sometime with your families. We are not being sent to island hop the Pacific, but for some of you, I imagine tour in Tet between 67 and 69 would be preferable to a month with your families.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Let’s see.

All of you self righteous, chest beating, flag waving patriots here,,, you gonna vote against Trump in November?

He is the globalist architect of all this according to you geniuses.

Whatcha gonna do, ladies ? The floor is open.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Let’s see.

All of you self righteous, chest beating, flag waving patriots here,,, you gonna vote against Trump in November?

He is the globalist architect of all this according to you geniuses.

Whatcha gonna do, ladies ? The floor is open.



Ladies, no pontificators here ?

What’s happened to all of the “it’s black or it’s white cadre” ?

Surely there’s amongst you someone who’ll step forward ?
Posted By: Salty303 Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
1900 died of CV19 in the US yesterday up about an 11% increase from the previous days total and trending up . Sure hope the trend flattens and starts to reverse soon.
Posted By: deerstalker Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Salty303
1900 died of CV19 in the US yesterday up about an 11% increase from the previous days total and trending up . Sure hope the trend flattens and starts to reverse soon.

how many abortions? how many drunk driving? how many drunks falling down and drowning in their own vomit, because they are locked down? yes this [bleep] is bad but I see overreaction x10
was at the DR's office yesterday. door locked. they came out masked to your car. checked for a fever. took you in. soon masks came off and they admitted it was for show. take normal precautions, don't swap spit with strangers, clean your hands after running the shopping cart and odds are with you.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Salty303
1900 died of CV19 in the US yesterday up about an 11% increase from the previous days total and trending up . Sure hope the trend flattens and starts to reverse soon.


Some claim, carelessly, that Co-19 doesn’t recognize official borders.

Imagine that.
Posted By: TrueGrit Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Let’s see.

All of you self righteous, chest beating, flag waving patriots here,,, you gonna vote against Trump in November?

He is the globalist architect of all this according to you geniuses.

Whatcha gonna do, ladies ? The floor is open.

Trump beats anything that's available. He really pizzed me off when he signed the $2+ trillion dollar relief package. As a man you stand for what you believe in and don't suck a willie for a vote or a dollar. But I can see where some men don't feel that way, or are they really ladies?
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by Salty303
1900 died of CV19 in the US yesterday up about an 11% increase from the previous days total and trending up . Sure hope the trend flattens and starts to reverse soon.

how many abortions? how many drunk driving? how many drunks falling down and drowning in their own vomit, because they are locked down? yes this [bleep] is bad but I see overreaction x10



Obviously all of what you listed is highly contagious.

But you can’t read this. Ignore.
Posted By: Fubarski Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Salty303
1900 died of CV19 in the US yesterday up about an 11% increase from the previous days total and trending up . Sure hope the trend flattens and starts to reverse soon.


"New cases" were reported.

"New cases", means cases that weren't reported before.

Liberal states, using the "new" CDC guilelines that mandate that everbody that dies had Covid, are now recategorizing deaths from earlier months as Covid, to keep the "new" numbers up.

This is on top of approximately 6-700 people a day that were previously listed as dying of pneumonia, that are now listed as dying from Covid.

Gotta keep pumpin up the hysteria.
Posted By: EthanEdwards Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Salty303
1900 died of CV19 in the US yesterday up about an 11% increase from the previous days total and trending up . Sure hope the trend flattens and starts to reverse soon.
Just fake news. Just a hoax.
Posted By: TrueGrit Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Salty303
1900 died of CV19 in the US yesterday up about an 11% increase from the previous days total and trending up . Sure hope the trend flattens and starts to reverse soon.

I sure hope and pray that this China flu starts laying out myself.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Let’s see.

All of you self righteous, chest beating, flag waving patriots here,,, you gonna vote against Trump in November?

He is the globalist architect of all this according to you geniuses.

Whatcha gonna do, ladies ? The floor is open.

Trump beats anything that's available. He really pizzed me off when he signed the $2+ trillion dollar relief package. As a man you stand for what you believe in and don't suck a willie for a vote or a dollar. But I can see where some men don't feel that way, or are they really ladies?



Ohhh,,,now I see. Let’s split the difference, eh ?

Milquetoast. Neither hot nor cold.

What happened to the staunch, right down the line patriot ?
Posted By: TrueGrit Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by Salty303
1900 died of CV19 in the US yesterday up about an 11% increase from the previous days total and trending up . Sure hope the trend flattens and starts to reverse soon.
Just fake news. Just a hoax.

Do you personally know anyone that's died from the China virus? I don't.
Posted By: jacksprat Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

Patrick Henry, is that you?
best post I have seen on the fire ever.


Did someone say Patrick Henry?
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by Salty303
1900 died of CV19 in the US yesterday up about an 11% increase from the previous days total and trending up . Sure hope the trend flattens and starts to reverse soon.


"New cases" were reported.

"New cases", means cases that weren't reported before.

Liberal states, using the "new" CDC guilelines that mandate that everbody that dies had Covid, are now recategorizing deaths from earlier months as Covid, to keep the "new" numbers up.

This is on top of approximately 6-700 people a day that were previously listed as dying of pneumonia, that are now listed as dying from Covid.

Gotta keep pumpin up the hysteria.



You forgot (as usual and conveniently) that distancing doesn’t work.
Posted By: EthanEdwards Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by Salty303
1900 died of CV19 in the US yesterday up about an 11% increase from the previous days total and trending up . Sure hope the trend flattens and starts to reverse soon.

how many abortions? how many drunk driving? how many drunks falling down and drowning in their own vomit, because they are locked down? yes this [bleep] is bad but I see overreaction x10
Can I ask you a genuine question? Which in your opinion is worse, a Dem governor who has shut down a lot of businesses TEMPORARILY, not including gun stores in essential services and having them shut down for awhile, or the laws just passed in Virginia, including a Red Flag Law, etc.? Bear in mind, variants on these are already in effect in California and New York state. Probably elsewhere too. Simple question without elaboration.
Posted By: TrueGrit Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Let’s see.

All of you self righteous, chest beating, flag waving patriots here,,, you gonna vote against Trump in November?

He is the globalist architect of all this according to you geniuses.

Whatcha gonna do, ladies ? The floor is open.

Trump beats anything that's available. He really pizzed me off when he signed the $2+ trillion dollar relief package. As a man you stand for what you believe in and don't suck a willie for a vote or a dollar. But I can see where some men don't feel that way, or are they really ladies?



Ohhh,,,now I see. Let’s split the difference, eh ?

Milquetoast. Neither hot nor cold.

What happened to the staunch, right down the line patriot ?

I just call things the way I see them, not how someone else tells me to see them. I'm not use to being told what to do, I divorced that one 36 years ago.
Posted By: RUM7 Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
So is Trump part of the Cabal or fighting against it?
It's so hard to keep up these days.
Posted By: Salty303 Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by Salty303
1900 died of CV19 in the US yesterday up about an 11% increase from the previous days total and trending up . Sure hope the trend flattens and starts to reverse soon.


"New cases" were reported.

"New cases", means cases that weren't reported before.

Liberal states, using the "new" CDC guilelines that mandate that everbody that dies had Covid, are now recategorizing deaths from earlier months as Covid, to keep the "new" numbers up.

This is on top of approximately 6-700 people a day that were previously listed as dying of pneumonia, that are now listed as dying from Covid.

Gotta keep pumpin up the hysteria.

The 1900 new cases are people that died yesterday that tested positive for covid 19. There are probably other deaths yesterday that haven't yet been confirmed as covid 19 yet that are, but they obviously wouldn't be included in the 1900.
Posted By: deerstalker Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by Salty303
1900 died of CV19 in the US yesterday up about an 11% increase from the previous days total and trending up . Sure hope the trend flattens and starts to reverse soon.

how many abortions? how many drunk driving? how many drunks falling down and drowning in their own vomit, because they are locked down? yes this [bleep] is bad but I see overreaction x10
Can I ask you a genuine question? Which in your opinion is worse, a Dem governor who has shut down a lot of businesses TEMPORARILY, not including gun stores in essential services and having them shut down for awhile, or the laws just passed in Virginia, including a Red Flag Law, etc.? Bear in mind, variants on these are already in effect in California and New York state. Probably elsewhere too. Simple question without elaboration.

EE, the problem is we don't KNOW that these shutdowns are temporary do we? how many temporary actions after 911 are still with us or have been enhanced?
Hell, I don't have any answers any more then any of the rest on here.
we are all just flapping our gums just to hear our teeth click.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Let’s see.

All of you self righteous, chest beating, flag waving patriots here,,, you gonna vote against Trump in November?

He is the globalist architect of all this according to you geniuses.

Whatcha gonna do, ladies ? The floor is open.

Trump beats anything that's available. He really pizzed me off when he signed the $2+ trillion dollar relief package. As a man you stand for what you believe in and don't suck a willie for a vote or a dollar. But I can see where some men don't feel that way, or are they really ladies?



Ohhh,,,now I see. Let’s split the difference, eh ?

Milquetoast. Neither hot nor cold.

What happened to the staunch, right down the line patriot ?

I just call things the way I see them, not how someone else tells me to see them. I'm not use to being told what to do, I divorced that one 36 years ago.



At least you stepped forward, Pard. Respect you for that.
Posted By: EthanEdwards Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by Salty303
1900 died of CV19 in the US yesterday up about an 11% increase from the previous days total and trending up . Sure hope the trend flattens and starts to reverse soon.

how many abortions? how many drunk driving? how many drunks falling down and drowning in their own vomit, because they are locked down? yes this [bleep] is bad but I see overreaction x10
Can I ask you a genuine question? Which in your opinion is worse, a Dem governor who has shut down a lot of businesses TEMPORARILY, not including gun stores in essential services and having them shut down for awhile, or the laws just passed in Virginia, including a Red Flag Law, etc.? Bear in mind, variants on these are already in effect in California and New York state. Probably elsewhere too. Simple question without elaboration.

EE, the problem is we don't KNOW that these shutdowns are temporary do we? how many temporary actions after 911 are still with us or have been enhanced?
Hell, I don't have any answers any more then any of the rest on here.
That's a good point. I wasn't scared at all after 911 and certainly didn't like the Patriot Act and still don't. That's the main one I can think of, although many small things changed. One of the biggest threats are businesses going along with the government on stuff that isn't even law and sometimes is against the law, but leaving individuals with little choice but to go along with their Draconian measures. Currently, there are certainly some abuses going on...the Mississippi fining of people seemingly going along with governmental edicts and staying in their vehicles but gathering in the parking lot for services really stands out. But most of the stuff the .gov has done looks common sensical if there is anything at all to the COVID and I personally think there is. It remains to be seen whether this is some sort of power grab by the big boys either before or after the fact. Right now, in my location, there have been few abuses-none really. We'll see what tomorrow brings.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Let’s see.

All of you self righteous, chest beating, flag waving patriots here,,, you gonna vote against Trump in November?

He is the globalist architect of all this according to you geniuses.

Whatcha gonna do, ladies ? The floor is open.



Ladies, no pontificators here ?

What’s happened to all of the “it’s black or it’s white cadre” ?

Surely there’s amongst you someone who’ll step forward ?



Patriots,,,,,where are y’all ?
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Let’s see.

All of you self righteous, chest beating, flag waving patriots here,,, you gonna vote against Trump in November?

He is the globalist architect of all this according to you geniuses.

Whatcha gonna do, ladies ? The floor is open.



Ladies, no pontificators here ?

What’s happened to all of the “it’s black or it’s white cadre” ?

Surely there’s amongst you someone who’ll step forward ?



Patriots,,,,,where are y’all ?




Now where ohh where have the Patrick Henrys run off to, I wonder ?
Posted By: CCCC Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud. People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. - - -Etc. - - - -YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.
Although overblown, a well-written post which seems effective in advancing a general point about the matter of liberty, and maintaining it as a bottom line issue. This post overstates some things, states grand assumptions about what I and others are thinking, and doing, and not doing, and are/are not willing to do - etc. A good bit of speculation and hyperbole - but effective in some ways.

My view is that this overall crisis experience will serve as a crucible for thought and decisions about issues that many people have not heretofore considered - that it is going to open eyes and concentrate minds in big ways, and greatly influence what people in this country will be prepared and willing to do in the future under certain conditions, and what they will not be willing to do. As sad and difficult as it has been for so many, it has served as a decent test case about one's consideration. compassion and cooperation as well as the roles and powers of our government. In this unusual instance, I think people have behaved and accepted behaviors in ways that, in some cases, they would repeat - and in some cases would NOT repeat. Much of this was a big surprise - and a big test of principles - personal and societal. The USA did not get to where it is due to the thoughts and actions of dumb and unprincipled people - but rather the opposite. Our times, events and social; makeup are different from the times of earlier crises. As needed, this experience will focus a lot of thinkng. Inside every REAL individual burns the love of, and yearning for, personal freedom. I see much hope in this awakening.
Posted By: smokepole Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by CCCC
Although overblown, a well-written post which seems effective in advancing a general point about the matter of liberty, and maintaning it as a bottom line issue. This post overstates some things, states grand assumptions about what I and others are thinking, and doing, and not doing, and are/are not willing to do - etc. A good bit of speculation and hyperbole - but effective in some ways.


LOL. coulda just said "you have a point but you're FOS."
Posted By: watch4bear Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by 1minute
Other than a bunch of events being canceled, Cookie and I are pursuing all of our normal in/out door activities.



Typical government employee response. Nothing ventured, but the pay check keeps coming in.
Posted By: whackem_stackem Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Let’s see.

All of you self righteous, chest beating, flag waving patriots here,,, you gonna vote against Trump in November?

He is the globalist architect of all this according to you geniuses.

Whatcha gonna do, ladies ? The floor is open.

Seeing that you asked,
I stated this when he signed that bloated 2.2T give away.
No, I will not vote for him again.
He started to lose me on the 2A a while back and he hasn't shown he can be trusted with red flag laws or having a Justice department that will stand up for the 2A in his second term.
He sucks on 4th and 5th amendment issues. My God, his whole presidency has been messed up because of a bogus FISA warrant and he turns around and reauthorizes them and other crap in the Patriot Act? What's up with that?
He has spent enough money to make a Democrat green envy. Remember that first bloated spending bill that Paul Ryan gave him and he said that he would never sign another bill like it? Boy was that a lie, just like his campaign promise to shrink the deficit.
Troops back from the Middle East? Nope
Right now his Justice Department is standing idle while states are running rampant over peoples rights. Governors are doing things that are not in their power according to their states constitution or the Federal constitution.
He has overseen this total debacle that he got into and has failed the American people miserably.
Don't give me that tired old line of would you rather have Hillery. That's like saying it's better to have gonorrhea than aids.

Voting for the lesser of two evils still give you evil.
I will not and never have voted for a Democrat.
I take my vote seriously, It doesn't belong to a party it belongs to me.
It wasn't given to Romney or McCain. They were trash then, now all the people that voted for them call them trash too.

I don't just give lip service about our founding fathers. I study them and try to emulate them. I hold the constitution in high regards.
You can do what you like with your vote. That's YOUR right, the same as me.
Maybe I will just write in Daniel Morgan or Thomas Paine again...
Posted By: watch4bear Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by RUM7
So is Trump part of the Cabal or fighting against it?
It's so hard to keep up these days.



He's golfing; but he's not getting paid. Oh, and he can't be bought.
Posted By: RUM7 Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Thanks. Clear as mud. Lol
Posted By: watch4bear Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by RUM7
Thanks. Clear as mud. Lol



I'm sure we'll find out more after this next election.
Posted By: luv2safari Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
I read this whole thread and am laughing hard and long.

To one side why don't you all get together in a big group, hug each other, kiss each others' babies, bring granny and old uncle Henry along, and have a giant BBQ. Wash it down with drinks of water from the cup hanging at the town square pump.


To the other side keep digging the hole deeper and pull more sagebrush over the top...should work, until it rains.

This was like watching monkeys throwing their schidt at each other.

...think I'll go fishing...
Posted By: TrueGrit Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by RUM7
So is Trump part of the Cabal or fighting against it?
It's so hard to keep up these days.

I wonder that myself, Trump talks a good game and I usually agree with his calls. But some of the things he says and does sure makes a person wonder which side he's on. Look no further than the WHO, he said everyone was going to pay their fair share when he was running for POTUS. I'd say he missed that big time on this ordeal.
Posted By: BobMt Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20



a-s....i realize the flag doesn't stop viruses and such........wackems post a little dramatic?..yes ....but some good points......I do believe some of the things going on right now are over the top..

am I afraid ?...only over what this bullscchit over extended shut down will bring......
Posted By: Valsdad Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by irfubar
The chicken littles here at the campfire played right into it... they took me to task for saying it was exaggerated, they accused me of endangering others etc..... I was labeled a denier, a menace to society.
Remember who these people are.....


If it saves one child.....


Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong!

If it'll save one BOOMER.....................


Especially this one......... grin

You folks stay away from Norcal.....................we don't need your Corona here.

Geno
Posted By: chlinstructor Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by luv2safari
I read this whole thread and am laughing hard and long.

To one side why don't you all get together in a big group, hug each other, kiss each others' babies, bring granny and old uncle Henry along, and have a giant BBQ. Wash it down with drinks of water from the cup hanging at the town square pump.


To the other side keep digging the hole deeper and pull more sagebrush over the top...should work, until it rains.

This was like watching monkeys throwing their schidt at each other.

...think I'll go fishing...


LOL. Yep.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Let’s see.

All of you self righteous, chest beating, flag waving patriots here,,, you gonna vote against Trump in November?

He is the globalist architect of all this according to you geniuses.

Whatcha gonna do, ladies ? The floor is open.

Seeing that you asked,
I stated this when he signed that bloated 2.2T give away.
No, I will not vote for him again.
He started to lose me on the 2A a while back and he hasn't shown he can be trusted with red flag laws or having a Justice department that will stand up for the 2A in his second term.
He sucks on 4th and 5th amendment issues. My God, his whole presidency has been messed up because of a bogus FISA warrant and he turns around and reauthorizes them and other crap in the Patriot Act? What's up with that?
He has spent enough money to make a Democrat green envy. Remember that first bloated spending bill that Paul Ryan gave him and he said that he would never sign another bill like it? Boy was that a lie, just like his campaign promise to shrink the deficit.
Troops back from the Middle East? Nope
Right now his Justice Department is standing idle while states are running rampant over peoples rights. Governors are doing things that are not in their power according to their states constitution or the Federal constitution.
He has overseen this total debacle that he got into and has failed the American people miserably.
Don't give me that tired old line of would you rather have Hillery. That's like saying it's better to have gonorrhea than aids.

Voting for the lesser of two evils still give you evil.
I will not and never have voted for a Democrat.
I take my vote seriously, It doesn't belong to a party it belongs to me.
It wasn't given to Romney or McCain. They were trash then, now all the people that voted for them call them trash too.

I don't just give lip service about our founding fathers. I study them and try to emulate them. I hold the constitution in high regards.
You can do what you like with your vote. That's YOUR right, the same as me.
Maybe I will just write in Daniel Morgan or Thomas Paine again...




Ain’t you the absolute fuggin brilliant one at The Campfire ?

Thanks for stepping forward with your proclamation of stupidity.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Anymore super patriots out there that want to get on board with Brother Whackem ?

Come on boys let’s have it.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Tulsi 2020!

Gosh she is just great.....
Posted By: CharlieFoxtrot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Jim, unless you post a pic of her in yoga pants, I'm out.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Tulsi 2020!

Gosh she is just great.....


She has some finer ‘points ‘ as I recall.

I hope Bowsinger don’t get locked on her like he did Palin.
Posted By: Blackheart Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Let’s see.

All of you self righteous, chest beating, flag waving patriots here,,, you gonna vote against Trump in November?

He is the globalist architect of all this according to you geniuses.

Whatcha gonna do, ladies ? The floor is open.
You can bet your sweet ass they're not going to take up arms against the oppressive gov't they've been bitching about on a daily basis since I joined in 2010. I am confident they will continue to bitch and moan about it on the internet daily until the day they die though.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Let’s see.

All of you self righteous, chest beating, flag waving patriots here,,, you gonna vote against Trump in November?

He is the globalist architect of all this according to you geniuses.

Whatcha gonna do, ladies ? The floor is open.
You can bet your sweet ass they're not going to take up arms against the oppressive gov't they've been bitching about on a daily basis since I joined in 2010.


But they can quote our Forefathers, call you what you’re not and bang the drum then scatter like chickens when just a small, simple question is put to them.

Where did they run off to ?
Posted By: irfubar Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Let’s see.

All of you self righteous, chest beating, flag waving patriots here,,, you gonna vote against Trump in November?

He is the globalist architect of all this according to you geniuses.

Whatcha gonna do, ladies ? The floor is open.


Toot,
I would like to answer your question, but I don't understand it. Could you put this in simple terms? thank you
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Let’s see.

All of you self righteous, chest beating, flag waving patriots here,,, you gonna vote against Trump in November?

He is the globalist architect of all this according to you geniuses.

Whatcha gonna do, ladies ? The floor is open.


Toot,
I would like to answer your question, but I don't understand it. Could you put this in simple terms? thank you


Please ponder deeply and it’ll come to you.

Hint:
There’s an election supposedly coming in November.
Posted By: irfubar Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Toot,
I am not smart enough to understand the premise of your question.... so I will answer the best I can

I will vote for Trump.. again
I do not believe he is the architect of this...
I am not a lady...

How did I do?
Posted By: Just a Hunter Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
As someone whom is on the edge of having a bad outcome with C-19 I think it would be better to get the virus and retain all freedom than live with what is going on now.
Posted By: dassa Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

Patrick Henry, is that you?
best post I have seen on the fire ever.


Please raise your standards.
Thanks.

Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

I couldn't agree more with what your saying. And totally shocked that more Americans don't feel the same way. I feel like a sheep and honestly don't know what to do about it.


Let us know when the armed rebellion starts.


So you can get a head start, runnin the other way.



This from The Patriot.

You could always try to come and chase me ???

I certainly will ! ignore button for you is long overdue.



Ignore.
The mark of, “I can’t stand it !!”

Thanks for your earlier patience which has now expired. I’ll miss your sage commentaries and reparte’.

Now,,,,go to your safe place and be well.

You mocking safe places is rich.
Posted By: antelope_sniper Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by irfubar
Toot,
I am not smart enough to understand the premise of your question.... so I will answer the best I can

I will vote for Trump.. again
I do not believe he is the architect of this...
I am not a lady...

How did I do?


I think you answered 3 of the 4 implied questions.

The fourth is:

Are you headed to Virginia to help start "The Reckoning"?
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by irfubar
Toot,
I am not smart enough to understand the premise of your question.... so I will answer the best I can

I will vote for Trump.. again
I do not believe he is the architect of this...
I am not a lady...

How did I do?


Ya done good my brother.
Posted By: irfubar Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by irfubar
Toot,
I am not smart enough to understand the premise of your question.... so I will answer the best I can

I will vote for Trump.. again
I do not believe he is the architect of this...
I am not a lady...

How did I do?


I think you answered 3 of the 4 implied questions.

The fourth is:

Are you headed to Virginia to help start "The Reckoning"?



Sniper.... thanks that part went right over my head.... I don't recall Virginia being in the question?
To complete the survey.... no I am not going to Virginia, I have been told to shelter in place... or else granny's death is on my shoulders...
Posted By: OldGrayWolf Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Hard core liberty lover here. All this covid crap, including the trillions of spending of money out of thin air, pisses me off severely. As did the follow on effects of 9/11. As did the murders of Sammy and Vicky Weaver, the Branch Davidians, Lavoy Finicum, and others. As does the capacity of fellow Americans to sit on their collective asses and bitch, but expect some miracle to come from above and fix everything, rather than get up and do anything about it.

I do not speak as one come lately to this, nor as one who has watched it from a chair. I have been involved in forming and been on the boards of various political action organizations for decades. I have associated with militia units when I felt there were solid people in them. I have worked with local candidates, the central committees in my area, and been the regional coordinator for a presidential campaign. Been a delegate to county, district and state caucuses and conventions. Have spent time in the state capitol and been on a first name basis with representatives and senators. Have one US Senator who will avoid me like the plague when we happen to be in the same room. He should. He is a snake in the grass crook. Like most of the rest of them.

All this has shown me the utter futility of expecting any sort of good to come from the state houses or the nation’s capitol. If we want liberty, we will absolutely have to get up and get it for ourselves. If we do stand up, there will be no quarter given, none expected. It is win or lose. If we win, we get to try to run what we took over without running it into the ground. If we fail at that, we end up worse than we started. If we lose, it’s just an unmarked grave. But liberty is not achieved by men in suits. It is achieved in spite of them.

Local folks were asking me to run for the state rep office. I told them I wasn’t their guy, unless they were looking for busted heads at the capitol. If I had to work in that den of snakes every day, there would absolutely be violence in the workplace. I am ready to fight for liberty, absolutely. But we have no clear leadership, no clear strategy, no clear mission, and may lack the support of the population at large. As long as America is comfortable, they will tolerate tyranny. Take away the comfort, and a percentage will fight for liberty, and a percentage will simply want whatever brings the comfort back. You guess what the spread is...

I think the comfort lovers outnumber the liberty lovers by a large margin. And I have no interest in being that “lone gunman” while the rest of America sits back and talks about where I went wrong. Ask Lavoy Finicum or Randy Weaver how that works. So all y’all on that high horse, asking folks like Whackem, True Grit, Bobmt, and I why we haven’t got the ball rolling? It’s because we are not going to pledge our lives, fortunes and sacred honor to a bunch of dual personality cheerleaders who fully intend to watch the fight from their lazyboy recliner, and cut us to ribbons before, during and after we make the play.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by dassa
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

Patrick Henry, is that you?
best post I have seen on the fire ever.


Please raise your standards.
Thanks.

Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.

I couldn't agree more with what your saying. And totally shocked that more Americans don't feel the same way. I feel like a sheep and honestly don't know what to do about it.


Let us know when the armed rebellion starts.


So you can get a head start, runnin the other way.



This from The Patriot.

You could always try to come and chase me ???

I certainly will ! ignore button for you is long overdue.



Ignore.
The mark of, “I can’t stand it !!”

Thanks for your earlier patience which has now expired. I’ll miss your sage commentaries and reparte’.

Now,,,,go to your safe place and be well.

You mocking safe places is rich.



Rich is right. I do have a considerable amount of money and I appreciate your keen observation. Good eye.

Actually I’m mocking those like yourself. You’re okay with that, I’m sure.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by irfubar
Toot,
I am not smart enough to understand the premise of your question.... so I will answer the best I can

I will vote for Trump.. again
I do not believe he is the architect of this...
I am not a lady...

How did I do?


I think you answered 3 of the 4 implied questions.

The fourth is:

Are you headed to Virginia to help start "The Reckoning"?



Sniper.... thanks that part went right over my head.... I don't recall Virginia being in the question?
To complete the survey.... no I am not going to Virginia, I have been told to shelter in place... or else granny's death is on my shoulders...



Wisdom. Naked, unadulterated wisdom.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
I keep waiting for John McClain to show up.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Hard core liberty lover here. All this covid crap, including the trillions of spending of money out of thin air, pisses me off severely. As did the follow on effects of 9/11. As did the murders of Sammy and Vicky Weaver, the Branch Davidians, Lavoy Finicum, and others. As does the capacity of fellow Americans to sit on their collective asses and bitch, but expect some miracle to come from above and fix everything, rather than get up and do anything about it.

I do not speak as one come lately to this, nor as one who has watched it from a chair. I have been involved in forming and been on the boards of various political action organizations for decades. I have associated with militia units when I felt there were solid people in them. I have worked with local candidates, the central committees in my area, and been the regional coordinator for a presidential campaign. Been a delegate to county, district and state caucuses and conventions. Have spent time in the state capitol and been on a first name basis with representatives and senators. Have one US Senator who will avoid me like the plague when we happen to be in the same room. He should. He is a snake in the grass crook. Like most of the rest of them.

All this has shown me the utter futility of expecting any sort of good to come from the state houses or the nation’s capitol. If we want liberty, we will absolutely have to get up and get it for ourselves. If we do stand up, there will be no quarter given, none expected. It is win or lose. If we win, we get to try to run what we took over without running it into the ground. If we fail at that, we end up worse than we started. If we lose, it’s just an unmarked grave. But liberty is not achieved by men in suits. It is achieved in spite of them.

Local folks were asking me to run for the state rep office. I told them I wasn’t their guy, unless they were looking for busted heads at the capitol. If I had to work in that den of snakes every day, there would absolutely be violence in the workplace. I am ready to fight for liberty, absolutely. But we have no clear leadership, no clear strategy, no clear mission, and may lack the support of the population at large. As long as America is comfortable, they will tolerate tyranny. Take away the comfort, and a percentage will fight for liberty, and a percentage will simply want whatever brings the comfort back. You guess what the spread is...

I think the comfort lovers outnumber the liberty lovers by a large margin. And I have no interest in being that “lone gunman” while the rest of America sits back and talks about where I went wrong. Ask Lavoy Finicum or Randy Weaver how that works. So all y’all on that high horse, asking folks like Whackem, True Grit, Bobmt, and I why we haven’t got the ball rolling? It’s because we are not going to pledge our lives, fortunes and sacred honor to a bunch of dual personality cheerleaders who fully intend to watch the fight from their lazyboy recliner, and cut us to ribbons before, during and after we make the play.







I like your style and cut of cloth. You stated it clearly and succinctly.

Hopefully you’ll vote for the trumpster and not do a write in candidate.
Posted By: irfubar Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by irfubar
Toot,
I am not smart enough to understand the premise of your question.... so I will answer the best I can

I will vote for Trump.. again
I do not believe he is the architect of this...
I am not a lady...

How did I do?


I think you answered 3 of the 4 implied questions.

The fourth is:

Are you headed to Virginia to help start "The Reckoning"?



Sniper.... thanks that part went right over my head.... I don't recall Virginia being in the question?
To complete the survey.... no I am not going to Virginia, I have been told to shelter in place... or else granny's death is on my shoulders...



Wisdom. Naked, unadulterated wisdom.


Even a blind pig finds an acorn now and again......

Toot laid out a challenge and I felt obligated to step up..... smile
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by Just a Hunter
As someone whom is on the edge of having a bad outcome with C-19 I think it would be better to get the virus and retain all freedom than live with what is going on now.


The choice is yours and you’re given the road.

Some of us here at The Campfire are pretty much doing exactly what we were doing pre Co-19. I’d go so far as to say most all of us are doing just that.
A gentle hint might be that few of us live and dwell within the inner cities.

Anyone who hasn’t set themselves up with a recommended 6 month Emergency Fund is getting whacked until the stimulus checks begin arriving.

Now,,,,back to the patriots.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by irfubar
Toot,
I am not smart enough to understand the premise of your question.... so I will answer the best I can

I will vote for Trump.. again
I do not believe he is the architect of this...
I am not a lady...

How did I do?


I think you answered 3 of the 4 implied questions.

The fourth is:

Are you headed to Virginia to help start "The Reckoning"?



Sniper.... thanks that part went right over my head.... I don't recall Virginia being in the question?
To complete the survey.... no I am not going to Virginia, I have been told to shelter in place... or else granny's death is on my shoulders...



Wisdom. Naked, unadulterated wisdom.


Even a blind pig finds an acorn now and again......

Toot laid out a challenge and I felt obligated to step up..... smile


Ain’t never seen you run with tail between legs.
Posted By: irfubar Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Hard core liberty lover here. All this covid crap, including the trillions of spending of money out of thin air, pisses me off severely. As did the follow on effects of 9/11. As did the murders of Sammy and Vicky Weaver, the Branch Davidians, Lavoy Finicum, and others. As does the capacity of fellow Americans to sit on their collective asses and bitch, but expect some miracle to come from above and fix everything, rather than get up and do anything about it.

I do not speak as one come lately to this, nor as one who has watched it from a chair. I have been involved in forming and been on the boards of various political action organizations for decades. I have associated with militia units when I felt there were solid people in them. I have worked with local candidates, the central committees in my area, and been the regional coordinator for a presidential campaign. Been a delegate to county, district and state caucuses and conventions. Have spent time in the state capitol and been on a first name basis with representatives and senators. Have one US Senator who will avoid me like the plague when we happen to be in the same room. He should. He is a snake in the grass crook. Like most of the rest of them.

All this has shown me the utter futility of expecting any sort of good to come from the state houses or the nation’s capitol. If we want liberty, we will absolutely have to get up and get it for ourselves. If we do stand up, there will be no quarter given, none expected. It is win or lose. If we win, we get to try to run what we took over without running it into the ground. If we fail at that, we end up worse than we started. If we lose, it’s just an unmarked grave. But liberty is not achieved by men in suits. It is achieved in spite of them.

Local folks were asking me to run for the state rep office. I told them I wasn’t their guy, unless they were looking for busted heads at the capitol. If I had to work in that den of snakes every day, there would absolutely be violence in the workplace. I am ready to fight for liberty, absolutely. But we have no clear leadership, no clear strategy, no clear mission, and may lack the support of the population at large. As long as America is comfortable, they will tolerate tyranny. Take away the comfort, and a percentage will fight for liberty, and a percentage will simply want whatever brings the comfort back. You guess what the spread is...

I think the comfort lovers outnumber the liberty lovers by a large margin. And I have no interest in being that “lone gunman” while the rest of America sits back and talks about where I went wrong. Ask Lavoy Finicum or Randy Weaver how that works. So all y’all on that high horse, asking folks like Whackem, True Grit, Bobmt, and I why we haven’t got the ball rolling? It’s because we are not going to pledge our lives, fortunes and sacred honor to a bunch of dual personality cheerleaders who fully intend to watch the fight from their lazyboy recliner, and cut us to ribbons before, during and after we make the play.








Like^^^^^^^
Posted By: Wildcatter264 Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.


whackem_stackem, agree with you 100%.

What’s been proven is that the vast majority of the people will indeed trade essentaqil liberty for a little safety. As Ben Franklin said, thus we deserve neither.

We need to remember and vote out those governors and others who have shown their tyrannical intentions and proclivities.

Remember, however, that only 3% of Colonials took the field in the 1776-1783 era. True patriots make a difference.
Posted By: Remington6MM Re: Live free or die? - 04/11/20
Wack n Stackem, I'll ask you as I did in another thread. Just what did you do today besides bloviate to the tribe? Did you even go knocking on doors before the last election or just sit on the couch and bitch about everything. Telling everybody that the status quo is all bad but not coming up with ant strategy is just more noise pollution.

This is not a war against another country, with uniformed solders, this is a fight against an invisible enemy and new battle lines have to be adopted. Just what is you strategy?
Posted By: antelope_sniper Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by irfubar
Toot,
I am not smart enough to understand the premise of your question.... so I will answer the best I can

I will vote for Trump.. again
I do not believe he is the architect of this...
I am not a lady...

How did I do?


I think you answered 3 of the 4 implied questions.

The fourth is:

Are you headed to Virginia to help start "The Reckoning"?



Sniper.... thanks that part went right over my head.... I don't recall Virginia being in the question?
To complete the survey.... no I am not going to Virginia, I have been told to shelter in place... or else granny's death is on my shoulders...


Fubar,

I'm sorry to report, that based upon your answers, you are not at risk of being labeled a "COVID Commie" along with myself. All the "True Patriots" are using their COVID Bucks to buy sling shots, head to Virginia, and meet up at Mountain Jacks place. They plan to descend on Richmond, pelt governor Black Face with pennies until he ends all quarantines, and surrenders Lon Horiuchi.
Posted By: irfubar Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
I don't like Lon Horiuchi or gobernor black face Northam........ if I wasn't under house arrest.. uummm I mean sheltering in place I would join the resistance....
Posted By: bobinpa Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.


Absolutely spot on! I couldn't agree more!
Posted By: bobinpa Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Hard core liberty lover here. All this covid crap, including the trillions of spending of money out of thin air, pisses me off severely. As did the follow on effects of 9/11. As did the murders of Sammy and Vicky Weaver, the Branch Davidians, Lavoy Finicum, and others. As does the capacity of fellow Americans to sit on their collective asses and bitch, but expect some miracle to come from above and fix everything, rather than get up and do anything about it.

I do not speak as one come lately to this, nor as one who has watched it from a chair. I have been involved in forming and been on the boards of various political action organizations for decades. I have associated with militia units when I felt there were solid people in them. I have worked with local candidates, the central committees in my area, and been the regional coordinator for a presidential campaign. Been a delegate to county, district and state caucuses and conventions. Have spent time in the state capitol and been on a first name basis with representatives and senators. Have one US Senator who will avoid me like the plague when we happen to be in the same room. He should. He is a snake in the grass crook. Like most of the rest of them.

All this has shown me the utter futility of expecting any sort of good to come from the state houses or the nation’s capitol. If we want liberty, we will absolutely have to get up and get it for ourselves. If we do stand up, there will be no quarter given, none expected. It is win or lose. If we win, we get to try to run what we took over without running it into the ground. If we fail at that, we end up worse than we started. If we lose, it’s just an unmarked grave. But liberty is not achieved by men in suits. It is achieved in spite of them.

Local folks were asking me to run for the state rep office. I told them I wasn’t their guy, unless they were looking for busted heads at the capitol. If I had to work in that den of snakes every day, there would absolutely be violence in the workplace. I am ready to fight for liberty, absolutely. But we have no clear leadership, no clear strategy, no clear mission, and may lack the support of the population at large. As long as America is comfortable, they will tolerate tyranny. Take away the comfort, and a percentage will fight for liberty, and a percentage will simply want whatever brings the comfort back. You guess what the spread is...

I think the comfort lovers outnumber the liberty lovers by a large margin. And I have no interest in being that “lone gunman” while the rest of America sits back and talks about where I went wrong. Ask Lavoy Finicum or Randy Weaver how that works. So all y’all on that high horse, asking folks like Whackem, True Grit, Bobmt, and I why we haven’t got the ball rolling? It’s because we are not going to pledge our lives, fortunes and sacred honor to a bunch of dual personality cheerleaders who fully intend to watch the fight from their lazyboy recliner, and cut us to ribbons before, during and after we make the play.







I thought Whackem was spot on, then I saw this. I'm with you 100%. I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
Posted By: mark shubert Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Our newly elected mayor (Special election - as the previous mayor is up on charges) just declared our little city of ~ 12000 is on curfew from 9 PM until 6 AM, due to (primarily) commercial break-ins.
I wonder where he got the idea he was elected dictator ?
SOB NEEDS to be brought up on charges in District Court!!!
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by bobinpa
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.


Absolutely spot on! I couldn't agree more!



Spot on including not voting for Trump and doing a write in candidate instead , you say ?

You still couldn’t agree more with Whackem ?
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by bobinpa
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Hard core liberty lover here. All this covid crap, including the trillions of spending of money out of thin air, pisses me off severely. As did the follow on effects of 9/11. As did the murders of Sammy and Vicky Weaver, the Branch Davidians, Lavoy Finicum, and others. As does the capacity of fellow Americans to sit on their collective asses and bitch, but expect some miracle to come from above and fix everything, rather than get up and do anything about it.

I do not speak as one come lately to this, nor as one who has watched it from a chair. I have been involved in forming and been on the boards of various political action organizations for decades. I have associated with militia units when I felt there were solid people in them. I have worked with local candidates, the central committees in my area, and been the regional coordinator for a presidential campaign. Been a delegate to county, district and state caucuses and conventions. Have spent time in the state capitol and been on a first name basis with representatives and senators. Have one US Senator who will avoid me like the plague when we happen to be in the same room. He should. He is a snake in the grass crook. Like most of the rest of them.

All this has shown me the utter futility of expecting any sort of good to come from the state houses or the nation’s capitol. If we want liberty, we will absolutely have to get up and get it for ourselves. If we do stand up, there will be no quarter given, none expected. It is win or lose. If we win, we get to try to run what we took over without running it into the ground. If we fail at that, we end up worse than we started. If we lose, it’s just an unmarked grave. But liberty is not achieved by men in suits. It is achieved in spite of them.

Local folks were asking me to run for the state rep office. I told them I wasn’t their guy, unless they were looking for busted heads at the capitol. If I had to work in that den of snakes every day, there would absolutely be violence in the workplace. I am ready to fight for liberty, absolutely. But we have no clear leadership, no clear strategy, no clear mission, and may lack the support of the population at large. As long as America is comfortable, they will tolerate tyranny. Take away the comfort, and a percentage will fight for liberty, and a percentage will simply want whatever brings the comfort back. You guess what the spread is...

I think the comfort lovers outnumber the liberty lovers by a large margin. And I have no interest in being that “lone gunman” while the rest of America sits back and talks about where I went wrong. Ask Lavoy Finicum or Randy Weaver how that works. So all y’all on that high horse, asking folks like Whackem, True Grit, Bobmt, and I why we haven’t got the ball rolling? It’s because we are not going to pledge our lives, fortunes and sacred honor to a bunch of dual personality cheerleaders who fully intend to watch the fight from their lazyboy recliner, and cut us to ribbons before, during and after we make the play.







I thought Whackem was spot on, then I saw this. I'm with you 100%. I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.


You might want to make up your mind one way or the other.

So which is it ?
Posted By: antelope_sniper Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by bobinpa
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Hard core liberty lover here. All this covid crap, including the trillions of spending of money out of thin air, pisses me off severely. As did the follow on effects of 9/11. As did the murders of Sammy and Vicky Weaver, the Branch Davidians, Lavoy Finicum, and others. As does the capacity of fellow Americans to sit on their collective asses and bitch, but expect some miracle to come from above and fix everything, rather than get up and do anything about it.

I do not speak as one come lately to this, nor as one who has watched it from a chair. I have been involved in forming and been on the boards of various political action organizations for decades. I have associated with militia units when I felt there were solid people in them. I have worked with local candidates, the central committees in my area, and been the regional coordinator for a presidential campaign. Been a delegate to county, district and state caucuses and conventions. Have spent time in the state capitol and been on a first name basis with representatives and senators. Have one US Senator who will avoid me like the plague when we happen to be in the same room. He should. He is a snake in the grass crook. Like most of the rest of them.

All this has shown me the utter futility of expecting any sort of good to come from the state houses or the nation’s capitol. If we want liberty, we will absolutely have to get up and get it for ourselves. If we do stand up, there will be no quarter given, none expected. It is win or lose. If we win, we get to try to run what we took over without running it into the ground. If we fail at that, we end up worse than we started. If we lose, it’s just an unmarked grave. But liberty is not achieved by men in suits. It is achieved in spite of them.

Local folks were asking me to run for the state rep office. I told them I wasn’t their guy, unless they were looking for busted heads at the capitol. If I had to work in that den of snakes every day, there would absolutely be violence in the workplace. I am ready to fight for liberty, absolutely. But we have no clear leadership, no clear strategy, no clear mission, and may lack the support of the population at large. As long as America is comfortable, they will tolerate tyranny. Take away the comfort, and a percentage will fight for liberty, and a percentage will simply want whatever brings the comfort back. You guess what the spread is...

I think the comfort lovers outnumber the liberty lovers by a large margin. And I have no interest in being that “lone gunman” while the rest of America sits back and talks about where I went wrong. Ask Lavoy Finicum or Randy Weaver how that works. So all y’all on that high horse, asking folks like Whackem, True Grit, Bobmt, and I why we haven’t got the ball rolling? It’s because we are not going to pledge our lives, fortunes and sacred honor to a bunch of dual personality cheerleaders who fully intend to watch the fight from their lazyboy recliner, and cut us to ribbons before, during and after we make the play.


I thought Whackem was spot on, then I saw this. I'm with you 100%. I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.


Bob,

Are you headed to Mountain Jack's gathering to pelt Governor Black Face with Pennies?
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by Wildcatter264
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.


whackem_stackem, agree with you 100%.

What’s been proven is that the vast majority of the people will indeed trade essentaqil liberty for a little safety. As Ben Franklin said, thus we deserve neither.

We need to remember and vote out those governors and others who have shown their tyrannical intentions and proclivities.

Remember, however, that only 3% of Colonials took the field in the 1776-1783 era. True patriots make a difference.




So you agree “completely “ which means you aren’t voting for trump either.

You doing a write in candidate like Ole Whackem also ?
Posted By: OldGrayWolf Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Ol Toot, refer to your sig line before asking others how they will vote, will you? The degree of others’ privacy is no business of yours. No flame intended, just pointing out the hypocrisy of the post when compared against your signature line.
Posted By: OldGrayWolf Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
As far as going to Virginia, I would make that trip to fight alongside jackmountain if needed, although I have plenty of tyrants right here at home to deal with first. At any rate, were I traveling to Virginia for the purpose of dealing with Northam, it would be with a rope and a rifle, not slingshots or pennies.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Ol Toot, refer to your sig line before asking others how they will vote, will you? The degree of others’ privacy is no business of yours. No flame intended, just pointing out the hypocrisy of the post when compared against your signature line.



You need to know who the “mouthpieces” are especially when they present themselves wrapped in the flag telling others what other Americans should be doing but that it apparently doesn’t apply to them.

You wanna talk hypocrites, Wolf ?

I’ll keep my sig line intact if you don’t mind too much.
Posted By: TrueGrit Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
I can see why some folks don't like Trump, but you'd have to be an idiot not to vote for him. I'm voting a straight Republican ticket, the dumocrats have proven they will stick together no matter what.
Posted By: duck911 Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Not to worry, gents.

In another thread, Deflave told us he done hand wroted (in CURSIVE!) letters to every level of gubbment on our behalves, 1 inch margins, double line spaced, New Times Roman 12 font (that's "AMA style" for those confused)......... with a wax seal, hand delivered by pony express.

It's all going to be OK.
Posted By: irfubar Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by duck911
Not to worry, gents.

In another thread, Deflave told us he done hand wroted (in CURSIVE!) letters to every level of gubbment on our behalves, 1 inch margins, double line spaced, New Times Roman 12 font (that's "AMA style" for those confused)......... with a wax seal, hand delivered by pony express.

It's all going to be OK.


Keep this schit up and I am going to have to start calling you duck911, you been warned.... wink
Posted By: Whelenman Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
I thought this was going to be about that worthless piece of [bleep] TV show, of the same name!
Posted By: Hastings Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
I finally got around to opening this discussion. It took a while to read. Along with some others I'm appalled at the acquiescence of so many otherwise freedom espousing men. The video of the expert with the red face and big glasses was really nice. If I understand him, we'll be safe from this when (if) the vaccine is developed. But then as he said the Chinese and their bat caves have 5000 more Corona viruses to bless us with. Also I learned that we can act like Africans if our children get sick and drop them off at the local incinerator. I guess we have at least learned how quick this country will knuckle under as have our would be adversaries also learned about us. We are in a heap of trouble and it isn't because of viruses
Posted By: RUM7 Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Well, sounds like it's time for war!!!!

Right after everyone takes there diabetes, blood pressure, and overactive bladder meds and gets a solid 8 hrs of sleep.

Maybe you all can get us the senior discount at Denny's on our way over to Virginia!
Posted By: Hastings Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by RUM7
Well, sounds like it's time for war!!!!Right after everyone takes there diabetes, blood pressure, and overactive bladder meds and gets a solid 8 hrs of sleep. Maybe you all can get us the senior discount at Denny's on our way over to Virginia!
Wrong. I'll do my fighting at Bayou Bourbeaux. Virginia let themselves get in the shape they're in. They can get out the best way they can.
Posted By: OldGrayWolf Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by RUM7
Well, sounds like it's time for war!!!!

Right after everyone takes there diabetes, blood pressure, and overactive bladder meds and gets a solid 8 hrs of sleep.

Maybe you all can get us the senior discount at Denny's on our way over to Virginia!


Your reality?😁 I take no meds. No high blood pressure, no nothing. Run younger guys into the dirt at construction work. 47, 5‘10”, 180 lbs. Got some life in me yet. 8 hours of sleep might be nice, though...

Even guys on meds can be a help. Old men rarely sit out revolutions. You don’t have to be running over hill and dale to gather intel or work a safe house. Or myriad other tasks that matter as much as killing the enemy. And then you have men like Samuel Whittemore. No softie, there. But I get your point. The crew here seems a bit older than myself and probably most of the other “fire-breathers”.
Posted By: duck911 Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Have CPAP, will travel.
Posted By: antelope_sniper Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by RUM7
Well, sounds like it's time for war!!!!Right after everyone takes there diabetes, blood pressure, and overactive bladder meds and gets a solid 8 hrs of sleep. Maybe you all can get us the senior discount at Denny's on our way over to Virginia!
Wrong. I'll do my fighting at Bayou Bourbeaux. Virginia let themselves get in the shape they're in. They can get out the best way they can.



Hastings,

Looks like your state's becoming the next Virus hotspot. You might just be able to hang out in the swamp for a bit and let the virus do the work for you. I haven't heard of gators or pigs contracting it, so I imagine you would be able to eat pretty well.
Posted By: RUM7 Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Just joking a bit. I know quote a few old timers that I wouldn't want to tangle with. I just finished my first year as a forty year old so I'm no longer a spring chicken either.
Posted By: akaSawDoctor Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.


You are a prime example of why the government wants to disarm us. Chill out man. Like I wanna take your guns for eff sakes.
Posted By: bobinpa Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by bobinpa
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.


Absolutely spot on! I couldn't agree more!



Spot on including not voting for Trump and doing a write in candidate instead , you say ?

You still couldn’t agree more with Whackem ?


Maybe I'm blind but I couldn't find anything in this post of whackem_stackem's that says anything about not voting for Trump.... with that being said, I will vote for trump unless somebody better comes along. But please show me the wording in this post that says he will write in another name.
Posted By: Hastings Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Hastings, Looks like your state's becoming the next Virus hotspot. You might just be able to hang out in the swamp for a bit and let the virus do the work for you. I haven't heard of gators or pigs contracting it, so I imagine you would be able to eat pretty well.
We are pretty sparsely populated, and I don't come in close contact with too many. Just 2 or 3 other antisocials that I hunt and fish with. We do occupy the same vehicle. I guess by proxy I contact everybody my lovely bride does although she is mostly video conferencing with her patients. So far we don't know anyone that has CV-19. Louisiana's main hotspots seem to be New Orleans (250 miles away) or Shreveport (70 miles). Seems mostly affecting black folks in this state. They are probably more social. The only thing I really miss is my 8 year old grand daughter who wants to be with me at the farm with the cows from sunup to dark when she's here. Her parents I guess are keeping her in the house.
Posted By: duck911 Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
I can see why some folks don't like Trump, but you'd have to be an idiot not to vote for him. I'm voting a straight Republican ticket, the dumocrats have proven they will stick together no matter what.



One of the best conservative talk show hosts I have ever heard, even better than Rush, was Mike Rosen (850 KOA, out of Denver).

He would drive home the point: PARTY TRUMPS PERSON.

He is SO right. Don't blow your vote on some 3rd party candidate out of spite or platform. Don't vote the other side because you think your party has a candidate that is an azzhole.

Because in the end, its about house and senate votes, supreme court appointments, and the like.

Voting for me is easy. Check mark next to every "R". Don't even care the name. It's unfortunately a disgusting 2 party system, so I am all in on my party.

Anyone who votes independent is either voting to make a personal point to close friends or to feel good, none of which helps out country.

My humble opinion.
Posted By: antelope_sniper Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Hastings, Looks like your state's becoming the next Virus hotspot. You might just be able to hang out in the swamp for a bit and let the virus do the work for you. I haven't heard of gators or pigs contracting it, so I imagine you would be able to eat pretty well.
We are pretty sparsely populated, and I don't come in close contact with too many. Just 2 or 3 other antisocials that I hunt and fish with. We do occupy the same vehicle. I guess by proxy I contact everybody my lovely bride does although she is mostly video conferencing with her patients. So far we don't know anyone that has CV-19. Louisiana's main hotspots seem to be New Orleans (250 miles away) or Shreveport (70 miles). Seems mostly affecting black folks in this state. They are probably more social. The only thing I really miss is my 8 year old grand daughter who wants to be with me at the farm with the cows from sunup to dark when she's here. Her parents I guess are keeping her in the house.


I can understand about your grand daughter. When my youngest heard school was cancelled for three weeks he first response was to ask if we could go to grandma and grandpa's. She was pretty disappointed to learn that was not in the cards.

Stay safe down there.
Posted By: Wildcatter264 Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Wildcatter264
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.


whackem_stackem, agree with you 100%.

What’s been proven is that the vast majority of the people will indeed trade essentaqil liberty for a little safety. As Ben Franklin said, thus we deserve neither.

We need to remember and vote out those governors and others who have shown their tyrannical intentions and proclivities.

Remember, however, that only 3% of Colonials took the field in the 1776-1783 era. True patriots make a difference.




So you agree “completely “ which means you aren’t voting for trump either.

You doing a write in candidate like Ole Whackem also ?


Where;s any mention about which candidate anyone is voting for? Ridiculous misrepresentation.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by Wildcatter264
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Wildcatter264
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.


whackem_stackem, agree with you 100%.

What’s been proven is that the vast majority of the people will indeed trade essentaqil liberty for a little safety. As Ben Franklin said, thus we deserve neither.

We need to remember and vote out those governors and others who have shown their tyrannical intentions and proclivities.

Remember, however, that only 3% of Colonials took the field in the 1776-1783 era. True patriots make a difference.




So you agree “completely “ which means you aren’t voting for trump either.

You doing a write in candidate like Ole Whackem also ?


Where;s any mention about which candidate anyone is voting for? Ridiculous misrepresentation.


Okay, once more.

You and bob probably don’t read so well and just fire off from the hip maybe ? Obviously.

Go back and read what Whackem wrote and the misrepresentation that you speak of just might sink in unless Whackem has slinked back in and wisely deleted what he wrote.

There’s a few others here, who when put to the test that we all will be facing in November, packed up and hauled ass away from the question that I put forth that I’ll repost for your benefit and possibly for your edification.


To wit:

With all of our supposed Constitutional Rights being suspended presently ( as some here so strongly claim is happening)
AND
As this is part of the globalists’ plan
AND
As Trump is quite obviously at the helm and directing these supposed Constitutional threats, are YOU going to vote for him in November?

Is that simple enough for you and bob to understand ?

Yes or no concerning the coming November vote ?
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Let’s see.

All of you self righteous, chest beating, flag waving patriots here,,, you gonna vote against Trump in November?

He is the globalist architect of all this according to you geniuses.

Whatcha gonna do, ladies ? The floor is open.

Seeing that you asked,
I stated this when he signed that bloated 2.2T give away.
No, I will not vote for him again.
He started to lose me on the 2A a while back and he hasn't shown he can be trusted with red flag laws or having a Justice department that will stand up for the 2A in his second term.
He sucks on 4th and 5th amendment issues. My God, his whole presidency has been messed up because of a bogus FISA warrant and he turns around and reauthorizes them and other crap in the Patriot Act? What's up with that?
He has spent enough money to make a Democrat green envy. Remember that first bloated spending bill that Paul Ryan gave him and he said that he would never sign another bill like it? Boy was that a lie, just like his campaign promise to shrink the deficit.
Troops back from the Middle East? Nope
Right now his Justice Department is standing idle while states are running rampant over peoples rights. Governors are doing things that are not in their power according to their states constitution or the Federal constitution.
He has overseen this total debacle that he got into and has failed the American people miserably.
Don't give me that tired old line of would you rather have Hillery. That's like saying it's better to have gonorrhea than aids.

Voting for the lesser of two evils still give you evil.
I will not and never have voted for a Democrat.
I take my vote seriously, It doesn't belong to a party it belongs to me.
It wasn't given to Romney or McCain. They were trash then, now all the people that voted for them call them trash too.

I don't just give lip service about our founding fathers. I study them and try to emulate them. I hold the constitution in high regards.
You can do what you like with your vote. That's YOUR right, the same as me.
Maybe I will just write in Daniel Morgan or Thomas Paine again...




Wildcatter264 and bobinpa.

Do I need to hold your hand for you here ?

Do I need to put things in bold red letters for you ?

I’ll say this. Whackem Stackem was man enough and honest enough and has the integrity to clearly state his convictions and to stand by them whether I vehemently disagree with him or not. I count him as a man among men. The ones that folded their tents and hauled ass from the question,,,,,well,,,not so much.

Which brings us back to you and bob.
Do you two care to answer the question that I put forth ?
Take your time,
Posted By: wdenike Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Wow a guy has a few things to do, and can't spend 24/7 on a computer. Only to come back to find that the stupid certainly runs deep in some. LMFAO





Take care, Willie
Posted By: battue Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
One should visit the shotgun forum and notice how Wackem isn’t so high on waving the flag when it comes to lead shot in the uplands....there it is whatever the government tells me to use is just fine...

There it is “Give me liberty, or give me death... you can also make me use bismuth...and I’ll be fine with that”

Ben, Patrick,Tom and a few others just rolled over.....
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by wdenike
Wow a guy has a few things to do, and can't spend 24/7 on a computer. Only to come back to find that the stupid certainly runs deep in some. LMFAO





Take care, Willie


Speaking of and for yourself only, I’m sure.

Take care, Willie.
The Tootster.
Posted By: luv2safari Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Brought something for everyone on this thread... whistle


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Posted By: wdenike Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by wdenike
Wow a guy has a few things to do, and can't spend 24/7 on a computer. Only to come back to find that the stupid certainly runs deep in some. LMFAO





Take care, Willie


Speaking of and for yourself only, I’m sure.

Take care, Willie.
The Tootster.







Sometimes you don't even have to mention someone by name. They automatically recognize the shoe fits, and jump in with both feet. Very telling. Keep impressing us with your high IQ. LMAO





Take care, Willie
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by wdenike
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by wdenike
Wow a guy has a few things to do, and can't spend 24/7 on a computer. Only to come back to find that the stupid certainly runs deep in some. LMFAO





Take care, Willie


Speaking of and for yourself only, I’m sure.

Take care, Willie.
The Tootster.







Sometimes you don't even have to mention someone by name. They automatically recognize the shoe fits, and jump in with both feet. Very telling. Keep impressing us with your high IQ. LMAO





Take care, Willie


Apparently the shoe fits you well.

Let me ask you the aforementioned question. You voting for Trump?

Should be simple enough even for yourself.
Posted By: alwaysoutdoors Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Poop Toot is still drinking the Covid kool aid!!! Run!! Run!! Wear a mask and don’t leave the house .
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Poop Toot is still drinking the Covid kool aid!!! Run!! Run!! Wear a mask and don’t leave the house .



Wrong thread,

Jus sayin.
Posted By: mirage243 Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Lot more closet liberals on here than folks think, I've known that for a long time though.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/12/20
Originally Posted by mirage243
Lot more closet liberals on here than folks think, I've known that for a long time though.


Lots of big mouthed pseudo patriots, too.
Posted By: alwaysoutdoors Re: Live free or die? - 04/13/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Poop Toot is still drinking the Covid kool aid!!! Run!! Run!! Wear a mask and don’t leave the house .



Wrong thread,

Jus sayin.

But you’re the same in every thread . High five!
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Live free or die? - 04/13/20
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Poop Toot is still drinking the Covid kool aid!!! Run!! Run!! Wear a mask and don’t leave the house .



Wrong thread,

Jus sayin.

But you’re the same in every thread . High five!


As are you with your ingrained, sophomoric stupidity.
Posted By: goalie Re: Live free or die? - 09/04/21
Originally Posted by Old_Toot



Rich is right. I do have a considerable amount of money and I appreciate your keen observation. Good eye.

Actually I’m mocking those like yourself. You’re okay with that, I’m sure.


Toot, remember this thread where you were supporting shutting stuff down and ruining the economy because you were scared?

I do.

The fact that you were actually bragging about money just makes it extra funny to me, you know, in light of your recent posts about me.

🤣
Posted By: goalie Re: Live free or die? - 09/04/21
Originally Posted by Old_Toot


Now where ohh where have the Patrick Henrys run off to, I wonder ?


I'm pretty sure that, wherever they are, they ain't wearing two masks like your lying, covtard ass.

🤣
Posted By: ShaunRyan Re: Live free or die? - 09/04/21
Divide and conquer . . .
Posted By: hookeye Re: Live free or die? - 09/04/21
No dove hunting. No going to the range.
Covid is hammering my area, hospitals full.

But its the friggin rain keeping me inside.
Posted By: goalie Re: Live free or die? - 09/05/21
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Wildcatter264
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Wildcatter264
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddle-boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.

People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentevized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.

You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?

YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.

YOU ARE IN IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.


whackem_stackem, agree with you 100%.

What’s been proven is that the vast majority of the people will indeed trade essentaqil liberty for a little safety. As Ben Franklin said, thus we deserve neither.

We need to remember and vote out those governors and others who have shown their tyrannical intentions and proclivities.

Remember, however, that only 3% of Colonials took the field in the 1776-1783 era. True patriots make a difference.




So you agree “completely “ which means you aren’t voting for trump either.

You doing a write in candidate like Ole Whackem also ?


Where;s any mention about which candidate anyone is voting for? Ridiculous misrepresentation.


Okay, once more.

You and bob probably don’t read so well and just fire off from the hip maybe ? Obviously.

Go back and read what Whackem wrote and the misrepresentation that you speak of just might sink in unless Whackem has slinked back in and wisely deleted what he wrote.

There’s a few others here, who when put to the test that we all will be facing in November, packed up and hauled ass away from the question that I put forth that I’ll repost for your benefit and possibly for your edification.


To wit:

With all of our supposed Constitutional Rights being suspended presently ( as some here so strongly claim is happening)
AND
As this is part of the globalists’ plan
AND
As Trump is quite obviously at the helm and directing these supposed Constitutional threats, are YOU going to vote for him in November?

Is that simple enough for you and bob to understand ?

Yes or no concerning the coming November vote ?


Remember Toot trying to get people to not vote for Trump?

His posts remember......
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