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That CZ is a nice rifle,especially for the price. $496.00 retail,real world price is less. https://cdn.cz-usa.com/hammer/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/457American.png
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There's all kinds of beautiful, accurate .22 rifles out there. But they need to have a good night's sleep if they're going to outshoot a $150 Marlin model 795 from Walmart. To quote John McEnroe, "You can't be serious!!" I am until. Where's your evidence?
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This new Steyr Zephyr full stock is on my new years hit list. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/zGFBET1h.jpg)
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Best bang for the buck 10/22. Plus, if you don't like it as is, plenty of after market parts to customize.
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There's all kinds of beautiful, accurate .22 rifles out there. But they need to have a good night's sleep if they're going to outshoot a $150 Marlin model 795 from Walmart. To quote John McEnroe, "You can't be serious!!" I am until. Where's your evidence? I guess it would be 15 years competing in rimfire benchrest matches from local matches to National and World Championships. In our local non-sanctioned matches guys would show up with all types of guns and I never saw a Marlin of any type win one. Remington 541s, CZ 452s, Anshcutz 1700 series, Winchester 52s and Cooper 57ms were the ones that shot the best for factory sporters. You can probably guess which one I shot and won with before moving up to sanctioned matches and full custom rifles.
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There's all kinds of beautiful, accurate .22 rifles out there. But they need to have a good night's sleep if they're going to outshoot a $150 Marlin model 795 from Walmart. To quote John McEnroe, "You can't be serious!!" I am until. Where's your evidence? I guess it would be 15 years competing in rimfire benchrest matches from local matches to National and World Championships. In our local non-sanctioned matches guys would show up with all types of guns and I never saw a Marlin of any type win one. Remington 541s, CZ 452s, Anshcutz 1700 series, Winchester 52s and Cooper 57ms were the ones that shot the best for factory sporters. You can probably guess which one I shot and won with before moving up to sanctioned matches and full custom rifles. No,...I can't guess. I'm not from Missouri. But I grew up about 40 miles east of there. So show me.
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This new Steyr Zephyr full stock is on my new years hit list. That’s a beauty! How much do they run???
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CZ and be done with it.
2nd vote for more of a beater: Savage and Marlin.
If impressing friends quality matters, Anschutz or Cooper. Fixed it. Don't get me wrong. I have a HARD ON for Cooper rifles. Have one in .204 Ruger. The only Cooper I own, but wished I owned one in every caliber But............. Rimfire? Bang for the buck........ I just feel like there are better options. But I am 100% with you with the Cooper love. The dog in my avatar on this post was named COOPER  God bless him.
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There's all kinds of beautiful, accurate .22 rifles out there. But they need to have a good night's sleep if they're going to outshoot a $150 Marlin model 795 from Walmart. To quote John McEnroe, "You can't be serious!!" I am until. Where's your evidence? I guess it would be 15 years competing in rimfire benchrest matches from local matches to National and World Championships. In our local non-sanctioned matches guys would show up with all types of guns and I never saw a Marlin of any type win one. Remington 541s, CZ 452s, Anshcutz 1700 series, Winchester 52s and Cooper 57ms were the ones that shot the best for factory sporters. You can probably guess which one I shot and won with before moving up to sanctioned matches and full custom rifles. I personally see very little value in bench shooting anyway and it bores the piss outta me. All of my practice these days is for hunting and since 95% of the shots I take while hunting are done offhand or kneeling, that's what I practice. A rifle doesn't need to be capable of winning a bench match to be perfectly satisfactory for that. I do have a couple of Marlin .22's that will consistently group 5 shots in the 1/2 - 3/4" inch range at 50 yards and they work fine for my practice and small game hunting.
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There's all kinds of beautiful, accurate .22 rifles out there. But they need to have a good night's sleep if they're going to outshoot a $150 Marlin model 795 from Walmart. To quote John McEnroe, "You can't be serious!!" I am until. Where's your evidence? I guess it would be 15 years competing in rimfire benchrest matches from local matches to National and World Championships. In our local non-sanctioned matches guys would show up with all types of guns and I never saw a Marlin of any type win one. Remington 541s, CZ 452s, Anshcutz 1700 series, Winchester 52s and Cooper 57ms were the ones that shot the best for factory sporters. You can probably guess which one I shot and won with before moving up to sanctioned matches and full custom rifles. No,...I can't guess. I'm not from Missouri. But I grew up about 40 miles east of there. So show me. My forum name is Cooper 57M, which is the type of rifle I shot in the local factory sporter matches. My real name is Bill Buskey. See link and look down to 2015 Outdoor Unlimited Nationals. http://www.ir5050.com/archive/
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There's all kinds of beautiful, accurate .22 rifles out there. But they need to have a good night's sleep if they're going to outshoot a $150 Marlin model 795 from Walmart. To quote John McEnroe, "You can't be serious!!" I am until. Where's your evidence? I guess it would be 15 years competing in rimfire benchrest matches from local matches to National and World Championships. In our local non-sanctioned matches guys would show up with all types of guns and I never saw a Marlin of any type win one. Remington 541s, CZ 452s, Anshcutz 1700 series, Winchester 52s and Cooper 57ms were the ones that shot the best for factory sporters. You can probably guess which one I shot and won with before moving up to sanctioned matches and full custom rifles. No,...I can't guess. I'm not from Missouri. But I grew up about 40 miles east of there. So show me. My forum name is Cooper 57M, which is the type of rifle I shot in the local factory sporter matches. My real name is Bill Buskey. See link and look down to 2015 Outdoor Unlimited Nationals. http://www.ir5050.com/archive/okay Where's the pics of your groups?
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Coopers are pretty bad azzed and known for their inherent accuracy. Kind of like the winchester model 52 back in their day..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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This new Steyr Zephyr full stock is on my new years hit list. That’s a beauty! How much do they run??? I'm not sure.My friend,who was at the Shot Show,told me about this. I'll hazard a guess that it will retail for about $1,200 to 1,400 . I should know in a few months when they're readily available.
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okay
Where's the pics of your groups?
OMG, I never kept any. I only shot groups when testing ammo or testing new guns that my gunsmith built for myself or other customers. For practice, I shot IR50/50 targets which requires one shot at each of 25 bulls.. A high score on that meant more than group size to me. But, I've shot more one hole 50 yrd groups than you can imagine. I didn't take pictures of them. They wouldn't impress the guys I shot against much, as we all shot plenty of them.
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okay
Where's the pics of your groups?
OMG, I never kept any. mmmm-hmmmm
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I try not to get into these type of discussions much cause what I consider "best" for a rimfire rifle is well beyond what most shooters would even consider. But since the OP asked for opinions for the "best" factory .22 lr, I felt I was qualified to offer up an opinion. Take it for what it's worth. I don't usually challenge shooters who make claims but implying a cheap Marlin could keep up with a real quality rimfire was too much for me to ignore.
Rimfire rifles were a passion of mine for about 20 years with 15 of those being in pretty serious benchrest competitions. I know benchrest may not be everybody's cup of tea, but when you are after the ultimate in rimfire accuracy (as I was) that's where it will take you and there is no better way to test the real accuracy potential of a rifle.
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I saw this posted on another board and thought some members here might be interested. Hope this helps some people save some money. https://www.impactguns.com/bolt-act...stock-10-round-736676083015-8301/#apps47
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I try not to get into these type of discussions much cause what I consider "best" for a rimfire rifle is well beyond what most shooters would even consider. But since the OP asked for opinions for the "best" factory .22 lr, I felt I was qualified to offer up an opinion. Take it for what it's worth. I don't usually challenge shooters who make claims but implying a cheap Marlin could keep up with a real quality rimfire was too much for me to ignore.
Rimfire rifles were a passion of mine for about 20 years with 15 of those being in pretty serious benchrest competitions. I know benchrest may not be everybody's cup of tea, but when you are after the ultimate in rimfire accuracy (as I was) that's where it will take you and there is no better way to test the real accuracy potential of a rifle. ,...but you never took the first pic of a group you shot?
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What about a trophy?
You got a pic of a trophy?
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There's all kinds of beautiful, accurate .22 rifles out there. But they need to have a good night's sleep if they're going to outshoot a $150 Marlin model 795 from Walmart. To quote John McEnroe, "You can't be serious!!" I am until. Where's your evidence? I guess it would be 15 years competing in rimfire benchrest matches from local matches to National and World Championships. In our local non-sanctioned matches guys would show up with all types of guns and I never saw a Marlin of any type win one. Remington 541s, CZ 452s, Anshcutz 1700 series, Winchester 52s and Cooper 57ms were the ones that shot the best for factory sporters. You can probably guess which one I shot and won with before moving up to sanctioned matches and full custom rifles. No,...I can't guess. I'm not from Missouri. But I grew up about 40 miles east of there. So show me. My forum name is Cooper 57M, which is the type of rifle I shot in the local factory sporter matches. My real name is Bill Buskey. See link and look down to 2015 Outdoor Unlimited Nationals. http://www.ir5050.com/archive/okay Where's the pics of your groups? Take a deep breath, hold it......now exhale! Feel better?
I am..........disturbed.
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