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Originally Posted by Steve
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IIRC - the Smithfield sale to the Chinese was done AFTER the Corona bug took off.



Think it was 2013.


Yep.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...be-sold-to-chinese-firm-for-4-72-billion


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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Lots of cheap chicken on the market. Without sports and Marti gras.

Smithfield is owned by China and just had a factory with 300 positive cases. Shut it down.
We're always talking about how much socialism we already have. Then give the Chinese some of their own medicine. Close it down, take it away and tell the Chinese to fook off.



That’s 300 American jobs, EE.

I’d hate to see that happen,


Also hits the pig farmers who start losing money once the hogs hit the 150 pound mark.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by teal
IIRC - the Smithfield sale to the Chinese was done AFTER the Corona bug took off.



Was in 2016, maybe ? It’s been a while if I recall correctly.


Looks like you're right - I swear I read an article last week saying they bought them. Maybe not. With the Rona there are only 3 days now. Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow.


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A LOT are losing money.


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A LOT are losing money.

Has a farmer ever made money? None of the ones I talk to.


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Originally Posted by teal
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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IIRC - the Smithfield sale to the Chinese was done AFTER the Corona bug took off.



Was in 2016, maybe ? It’s been a while if I recall correctly.


Looks like you're right - I swear I read an article last week saying they bought them. Maybe not. With the Rona there are only 3 days now. Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow.


Teal, I think that it’s Steve that’s right.

If I understand correctly, Smithfield hasn’t stopped buying smaller operations to bring under the Smithfield umbrella. That’s ongoing I believe.

You’re probably right,, too.


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Originally Posted by 19352012
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A LOT are losing money.

Has a farmer ever made money? None of the ones I talk to.


Worked with a guy who was in his late 40's then. Had just sold the family dairy farm and this was his first job outside of that. Told me that on paper they didn't make a ton of money but they were comfortable, fed well enough he needed to diet and he got to snowmobile as much as he wanted. Said farming was very good to him and his and couldn't complain. Also knew his body would never hold out.


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Not just farmers.


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Originally Posted by teal
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A LOT are losing money.

Has a farmer ever made money? None of the ones I talk to.


Worked with a guy who was in his late 40's then. Had just sold the family dairy farm and this was his first job outside of that. Told me that on paper they didn't make a ton of money but they were comfortable, fed well enough he needed to diet and he got to snowmobile as much as he wanted. Said farming was very good to him and his and couldn't complain. Also knew his body would never hold out.


A few of them poor farmers I've seem have some dang nice diesel pick up trucks and "farm houses".










Others are like Conrad and Sam............regular folks.

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Originally Posted by 19352012
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A LOT are losing money.

Has a farmer ever made money? None of the ones I talk to.


A large part of my family is in farming. Ain’t a poor one in the bunch.
One of the advantages of Louisiana farming is the ability to double crop in a single year, weather permitting.

That helps plus several are also into raising trophy bulls breeding stocks. Some of the most beautiful Brahma Bulls I’ve ever seen. High dollar stuff.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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Originally Posted by ringworm
Lots of cheap chicken on the market. Without sports and Marti gras.

Smithfield is owned by China and just had a factory with 300 positive cases. Shut it down.
We're always talking about how much socialism we already have. Then give the Chinese some of their own medicine. Close it down, take it away and tell the Chinese to fook off.



That’s 300 American jobs, EE.

I’d hate to see that happen,
Toot, if it's like most packing plants around here about half of those ain't Americans. But I didn't say leave it shut down. Just take it away from the Chinese. Personally, I'm sick of their shixt. It's time for them to pay and pay big.

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Originally Posted by teal
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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IIRC - the Smithfield sale to the Chinese was done AFTER the Corona bug took off.



Was in 2016, maybe ? It’s been a while if I recall correctly.


Looks like you're right - I swear I read an article last week saying they bought them. Maybe not. With the Rona there are only 3 days now. Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow.
That's because the chickens are literally coming home to roost. Lots of past actions are now impacting us and becoming if not more newsworthy then more noteworthy.

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He drove a Ford - probably about 6 years old at the time. Small dairy op - especially compared to the monsters going now. One night we went from his place 20 miles west of Green Bay to Wausau and back on snowmobiles. I was 20 at the time and it was all I could do to keep up to him on a sled. Dude could ride. Got the WORSE frostbite of my life that night.

Hell one local "farmer" died 1 or 2 years ago in a private airplane crash. His own, twin engine Cessna. Not some old beater either. He's a massive operation tho.


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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by ringworm
Lots of cheap chicken on the market. Without sports and Marti gras.

Smithfield is owned by China and just had a factory with 300 positive cases. Shut it down.
We're always talking about how much socialism we already have. Then give the Chinese some of their own medicine. Close it down, take it away and tell the Chinese to fook off.



That’s 300 American jobs, EE.

I’d hate to see that happen,
Toot, if it's like most packing plants around here about half of those ain't Americans. But I didn't say leave it shut down. Just take it away from the Chinese. Personally, I'm sick of their shixt. It's time for them to pay and pay big.



I hear what you’re saying.
Mississippi had some of the chicken processing plants raided and it was a considerable amount of wets that got deported and caused the operations to shutdown.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by ringworm
Lots of cheap chicken on the market. Without sports and Marti gras.

Smithfield is owned by China and just had a factory with 300 positive cases. Shut it down.
We're always talking about how much socialism we already have. Then give the Chinese some of their own medicine. Close it down, take it away and tell the Chinese to fook off.



That’s 300 American jobs, EE.

I’d hate to see that happen,


Also hits the pig farmers who start losing money once the hogs hit the 150 pound mark.
It's like I've posted before. The kind of pig farmers you're talking about don't exist anymore. Big outfits like Smithfield own both ends of the market. You can't sell big lots of hogs to them because they raise their own. Poultry went first. The market for farmer's hogs is essentially just for butcher hogs or pigs to raise and butcher or for kid's 4-H projects. There might be some good money in four or five hogs per year or the like, but you can't make a living at it. The last refuge I know of is beef, which is currently way down but not down at the stores.

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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by ringworm
Lots of cheap chicken on the market. Without sports and Marti gras.

Smithfield is owned by China and just had a factory with 300 positive cases. Shut it down.
We're always talking about how much socialism we already have. Then give the Chinese some of their own medicine. Close it down, take it away and tell the Chinese to fook off.



That’s 300 American jobs, EE.

I’d hate to see that happen,
Toot, if it's like most packing plants around here about half of those ain't Americans. But I didn't say leave it shut down. Just take it away from the Chinese. Personally, I'm sick of their shixt. It's time for them to pay and pay big.



I hear what you’re saying.
Mississippi had some of the chicken processing plants raided and it was a considerable amount of wets that got deported and caused the operations to shutdown.



Great business model..........................



Until it's not........................


kind of like streetcorner capitalism.

Don't get caught and things run pretty smoothly.

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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by ringworm
Lots of cheap chicken on the market. Without sports and Marti gras.

Smithfield is owned by China and just had a factory with 300 positive cases. Shut it down.
We're always talking about how much socialism we already have. Then give the Chinese some of their own medicine. Close it down, take it away and tell the Chinese to fook off.



That’s 300 American jobs, EE.

I’d hate to see that happen,
Toot, if it's like most packing plants around here about half of those ain't Americans. But I didn't say leave it shut down. Just take it away from the Chinese. Personally, I'm sick of their shixt. It's time for them to pay and pay big.



I hear what you’re saying.
Mississippi had some of the chicken processing plants raided and it was a considerable amount of wets that got deported and caused the operations to shutdown.
Yes. Out west of us are lots of beef processing plants whereas points south and east have lots of poultry. They're not all Mexicans either and some may be legal but still not able to speak English.

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Outbreak and 2 deaths at the massive JBS meat packing plant down the road from me in Greeley. Being shut down:

https://www.9news.com/mobile/articl.../73-a44605aa-1f96-4b80-b84f-3a16fdccc077


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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by ringworm
Lots of cheap chicken on the market. Without sports and Marti gras.

Smithfield is owned by China and just had a factory with 300 positive cases. Shut it down.
We're always talking about how much socialism we already have. Then give the Chinese some of their own medicine. Close it down, take it away and tell the Chinese to fook off.



That’s 300 American jobs, EE.

I’d hate to see that happen,


Also hits the pig farmers who start losing money once the hogs hit the 150 pound mark.
It's like I've posted before. The kind of pig farmers you're talking about don't exist anymore. Big outfits like Smithfield own both ends of the market. You can't sell big lots of hogs to them because they raise their own. Poultry went first. The market for farmer's hogs is essentially just for butcher hogs or pigs to raise and butcher or for kid's 4-H projects. There might be some good money in four or five hogs per year or the like, but you can't make a living at it. The last refuge I know of is beef, which is currently way down but not down at the stores.

Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by ringworm
Lots of cheap chicken on the market. Without sports and Marti gras.

Smithfield is owned by China and just had a factory with 300 positive cases. Shut it down.
We're always talking about how much socialism we already have. Then give the Chinese some of their own medicine. Close it down, take it away and tell the Chinese to fook off.



That’s 300 American jobs, EE.

I’d hate to see that happen,


Also hits the pig farmers who start losing money once the hogs hit the 150 pound mark.
It's like I've posted before. The kind of pig farmers you're talking about don't exist anymore. Big outfits like Smithfield own both ends of the market. You can't sell big lots of hogs to them because they raise their own. Poultry went first. The market for farmer's hogs is essentially just for butcher hogs or pigs to raise and butcher or for kid's 4-H projects. There might be some good money in four or five hogs per year or the like, but you can't make a living at it. The last refuge I know of is beef, which is currently way down but not down at the stores.


Several of the guys that I worked with have the chicken raising operations going on and they’ve been doing okay but operate on a thin margin. Everything that they raise is contracted out to Miss Goldie. It’s worth their while. They own the properties.

They’re in Mississippi and East Texas.


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https://www.kunc.org/post/jbs-worlds-largest-meat-company-mired-multiple-corruption-scandals-brazil
JBS of Brazil owns the US beef - meat processing in the US of A.
We need to be able to sell beef off the farm to the consumer by the pound. But the government wouldn’t have any control over the beef industry.


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