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That was the joke.

And he’d further say that back then they were real men, tough men like truck drivers.
Yeah, that’s what he’d say.

Perzactly!
The state authoriti [doing my best Cortman impression] is trying to implement the "one size fits all" scenario, it won't work.

Are we still saying anyone who wants to open the economy up because this is all bullllschidt is a Nazi? Wanna make sure I’m on the same page this morning.

Quickest way to reopen the economy is to say all salaried by taxpayers workers at the local, state, and fed level will take a 15% pay cut until things open up. And that includes teachers.

Things would be open tomorrow and the entire narrative would change.

Add in social security benefits and it may open up later today.

No kidding.

What we have going on is a bunch of people with guaranteed paychecks picking winners and losers in this.

Kinda chaps my ass when school teachers kayak by on a school day, all smiles, still collecting big $$ with the premo health insurance plan while the local fishermen will starve this year due to the decisions of those who won’t lose a dime.

Why limit it to those salaried by taxpayers? Why not anyone who is not working but still receiving pay/benefits?

So, the fishermen are starving because they have no place to sell their catch? Right?

Where is the market for their catch? Restaurants?

So, are you too fugging stupid to understand the restaurants would be empty without any Governmental order? Or that lifting of those orders will not magically fill the restaurants?

Such are the consequences of natural disasters.

Now I admit to very little knowledge of circumstances in Big City America.

But around here the only businesses actually closed are dine in restaurants, oh and that Dutch Bros where they found several members of the wait staff had the Corona. But traffic on the roads is reduced to about 25% of normal and even the grocery stores are void of customers.

People have no interest in going into public venues. Even when forced into a grocery store or pharmacy, they stand far away from each other and try very hard to avoid contact with others.

People sure as hell are not eager to eat food in an open dining room, nor have a waiter handling their open plate or touching their water glass.

Dot Gov could very well lift all restrictions tomorrow, today even, but do not expect much impact on the economy any time soon. People have learned they can do without many frivolous expenditures.

What are we going to do? Start shooting people if they do not buy three restaurant meals each week?

Lots of conjecture and wild ass guessing there.

Locally, we are at 34 death in two counties with about 300K in populations. 76% of the deaths are from nursing home residents. The infection rate of the virus amongst staff and residents in the nursing homes is very high. The only reason that experts know it is very high is that all the staff and residents in the nursing homes have been tested. I suspect if the rest of the population was tested at the same level, we would find the rate of infection to be very high with a majority of those being tested asymptomatic.

This isn't a guess. 22 million people lost jobs last month. I will guess that many of them were poor planners and have bills to pay. And the state of MN had 79 deaths of elderly folks, out of a population of 830,000 elderly. And they will still keep dying while this virus runs its course. Though in fairness, that is around a .00009 death rate in MN's elderly.

More real observations there.

What is actually closed in Boise by Government order?

And what is the traffic rate at those places still open?

Many here cannot see the forest through the trees, go figure.

No doubt there are some cruel hearted people in the world - always has been the case. But, IMHO your comments are short-sighted or borne from ignorance - or maybe both. I am quite old even though not yet 87 and have enjoyed a wonderful life, career, family, friends and most of what a fellow could do out in nature. Also have climbed back from two serious health situations and know I soon will die from something like that or similar - and most likely, as you put it, "go out struggling for breath." I am reconciled with the reality and so, yes, it is OK to say "let the older people die" because we certainly will and nothing over-arching can or will be done to change that. Contrary to your guess, I celebrate the glory and sanctity of life, believe that abortion is dead wrong and sinful, and wish the best for others. From this vantage point, some handling of the current situation is ridiculous and wrong. But then, I'm old.

I certainly wish death upon no one.
If I had factors that meant that I should self quarantine to help my life last longer then that's what I would do, not expect the rest of the country to do it for my sake all the while totally destroying our national economy, leaving a depression my children and grandchildren will surely have to endure.

Around this Campfire, one never knows.
Grins

I agree. If decision makers were suffering things would change. Quick.

Many businesses are restricted in operation. The conjecture is that you "know" what people would have done without .gov stepping in. I'm really not going to argue with you. You have your chosen path and cannot be dissuaded. I'm OK with that.