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Janet Reno fiasco epic-fail. I’m sure her seat in Hell is secure. Add the kidnapping of Elian Gonzales by a DOJ SWAT team and his forcible return to Communist Cuba. Those were Border Patrol Agents. Buncha a-holes.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Bump. Watching it now. Definitely worth watching
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Janet Reno fiasco epic-fail. I’m sure her seat in Hell is secure. Add the kidnapping of Elian Gonzales by a DOJ SWAT team and his forcible return to Communist Cuba. Those were Border Patrol Agents. Buncha a-holes. LOL! Feds...am I right?
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Janet Reno fiasco epic-fail. I’m sure her seat in Hell is secure. Add the kidnapping of Elian Gonzales by a DOJ SWAT team and his forcible return to Communist Cuba. Those were Border Patrol Agents. Buncha a-holes. BORTAC guys I assume?
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Watched it last night. I was very surprised that they cast FBI and ATF leadership in such unfavorable light. Lots of pandering for political gain, human lives be damned, let alone justice.
Did the video of the initial assault ever come to light?
Somebody should have been jailed for suppression/destruction of evidence if not.
This program portrayed Lon Horiuchi at Waco begging for the chance to murder again. That SOB should have been hung for Vicki Weaver. Failing successful prosecution, he certainly should have been removed from the FBI for his murderous mindset.
I was amused at the scene when Koresh was able to determine the legality of a handgun purchase, and if it came from a gun show, just by observing an "altered trigger".
I also noticed that the film portrayed no automatic weapons in the hands of the Davidians. Am I correct that they never found any illegal weapons in the compound after it burned?
And there was something about an NFA item was legal in Texas with a $25 license? I did not really catch the reference, but I assume it was another faux pas on the part of the film makers.
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Started watching this last night.
Great so far.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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Janet Reno fiasco epic-fail. I’m sure her seat in Hell is secure. Add the kidnapping of Elian Gonzales by a DOJ SWAT team and his forcible return to Communist Cuba. Those were Border Patrol Agents. Buncha a-holes. BORTAC guys I assume? Most of the pictures are BORTAC but lots of agents were involved.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Watched it last night. I was very surprised that they cast FBI and ATF leadership in such unfavorable light. Lots of pandering for political gain, human lives be damned, let alone justice.
Did the video of the initial assault ever come to light?
Somebody should have been jailed for suppression/destruction of evidence if not.
This program portrayed Lon Horiuchi at Waco begging for the chance to murder again. That SOB should have been hung for Vicki Weaver. Failing successful prosecution, he certainly should have been removed from the FBI for his murderous mindset.
I was amused at the scene when Koresh was able to determine the legality of a handgun purchase, and if it came from a gun show, just by observing an "altered trigger".
I also noticed that the film portrayed no automatic weapons in the hands of the Davidians. Am I correct that they never found any illegal weapons in the compound after it burned?
And there was something about an NFA item was legal in Texas with a $25 license? I did not really catch the reference, but I assume it was another faux pas on the part of the film makers.
IS, I pondered the same things. Not sure if some of that stuff is accurate or not.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Janet Reno fiasco epic-fail. I’m sure her seat in Hell is secure. Add the kidnapping of Elian Gonzales by a DOJ SWAT team and his forcible return to Communist Cuba. Those were Border Patrol Agents. Buncha a-holes. LMFAO...
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I haven't seen the series yet. I will check it out.
I was in Billings during the Freemen stand off in Jordan, Mt, what a clusterfug. The ATF , FBI learned a lesson from Waco and didn't try the same heavy handed tactics against the Freemen. Janet Reno and the Clintons were out of control and running amuck at the time......
The funniest thing I remember from it was the reporters complaining about the accommodations in Jordan, they were hating life... hahahaha
I believe a car load of reporters skidded off a snowy road and crashed, several hurt and If I remember correct someone died I believe? They were headed to Lincoln to cover the capture of Uni-bomber. Good times ... LOL
An FBI agent did die in the Freeman standoff, but drinking and driving was the cause.
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An FBI agent did die in the Freeman standoff, but drinking and driving was the cause.
My kinda party.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I got thru the first episode - already has the sniper at Ruby Ridge and doesn't make him out to be a hero You call that idiot a "sniper". Wasn't a "hero", nor a sniper...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Shoot Viki Weaver through the head while she is holding a baby in her living room...... that is not sniping, that is murder.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps
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Watched it last night. I was very surprised that they cast FBI and ATF leadership in such unfavorable light. Lots of pandering for political gain, human lives be damned, let alone justice.
Did the video of the initial assault ever come to light?
Somebody should have been jailed for suppression/destruction of evidence if not.
This program portrayed Lon Horiuchi at Waco begging for the chance to murder again. That SOB should have been hung for Vicki Weaver. Failing successful prosecution, he certainly should have been removed from the FBI for his murderous mindset.
I was amused at the scene when Koresh was able to determine the legality of a handgun purchase, and if it came from a gun show, just by observing an "altered trigger".
I also noticed that the film portrayed no automatic weapons in the hands of the Davidians. Am I correct that they never found any illegal weapons in the compound after it burned?
And there was something about an NFA item was legal in Texas with a $25 license? I did not really catch the reference, but I assume it was another faux pas on the part of the film makers.
I don't know about after it burned but photos of "assault" type rifles in their armaments taken prior to the raid showed some with ATF legal (at the time) "HellFire" bump-fire trigger gizmos. Also, as I recall, some practice "Dummy" hand grenades, too.
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From what I remember the ATF was originally going after a .50 cal. rifle (Barrett ?) they claimed was an NFA item but in reality was semi auto or a bolt gun. The story from them seemed to "change" over time, but who knows how much of that was official or just ignorance on the medias part. Just like now, they (MSM) were solid with the dems and clinton admin.
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Not a mini-series like Waco but there is an actual documentary on NetFlix titled Wild, Wild, Country.
It's pretty fuggin' wild. LOL.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Shoot Viki Weaver through the head while she is holding a baby in her living room...... that is not sniping, that is murder. Sniping is murder.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Not a mini-series like Waco but there is an actual documentary on NetFlix titled Wild, Wild, Country.
It's pretty fuggin' wild. LOL. Geesus! That brings back memories. My family had a friend who was a diamond broker out of Vegas that got into that cult and bought one of the Bhagwans' Rolls Royce's. The guy was a little out there but had money to burn so..... and my last year in college had a couple chicks and their boy friend live across the ally from my apartment. They worked at a strip bar in Boulder, Co. and would sun bathe naked in the back yard. My apartment was on the second floor and the deck faced the backyard so life was good... they were Bhagwanny's too, wore nothing but the "colors of the setting sun" when they wore clothes and had pics of their guru plastered in every window in the house, even on the steering wheel of their car. Strange times.
“Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.” ― G. Orwell
"Why can't men kill big game with the same cartridges women and kids use?" _Eileen Clarke
"Unjust authority confers no obligation of obedience." - Alexander Hamilton
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Hahaha.
Was before my time so I had never heard of the story before.
Fugkin' nuts.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Shoot Viki Weaver through the head while she is holding a baby in her living room...... that is not sniping, that is murder. A bad deal, but people forget their son Sam was the first to be shot when the family dog sniffed out the agents hiding in the weeds. If I remember correctly the agents shot the dog when it started barking and Sam shot off a round and ran back to the house. Didn't make it, shot in the back and died while his parents watched, not able to help.
“Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.” ― G. Orwell
"Why can't men kill big game with the same cartridges women and kids use?" _Eileen Clarke
"Unjust authority confers no obligation of obedience." - Alexander Hamilton
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